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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty Balls View Post
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    How cool is this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Banana View Post
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    I was on a 47 footer with triples as throttleman. When the flag dropped, they had to keep reminding me that the pace boat backs off and let's the pack go by. Sorry.....Old habits die hard.

    Too funny!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    Too funny!!!!!!
    Well, what would you do if you had your hand on the throttles of this beast???

    I admit I was just trying to give the modern day racers a taste of running together in a pack to the first checkpoint boat. Of course in the old days that was 30 miles or so, today it is a half mile, so it was starting to get tight down there with a 47 foot roadblock as they made their turn.

    Just a point of information here
    .......remember the same guy that rigged this 47 footer so many years ago, is the same guy that is now rigging the new Chief. He only gets better
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    It would have been really fun to hear what they were all saying about the "Pace" boat......
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    Some pics from Miami
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    I have a question.
    As I understand, the Chief 42 is from an original Apache mold.

    In the past few years, Pantera has put out a few 41's that, as I understand, was an original Apache mold.

    2 different molds?
    We all know how on some boats coming out of the same mold may be badged a 1' difference.

    Did Apache have more than one mold for the 41/42?
    Whereabouts is the Apache 47 mold?

    I'm not trying to stir any chit here, just curious of the pedigree/bloodline of these boats.
    Just curious.
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    The "original" Apache 41 and 47 molds are owned by Saber. I believe McManus 47 mold is a splash off of Kemo. I have never found who made the splash that ended up creating the White Lightning Apache (41') out west. I'll need help on the rest of the questions.....
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    The Chief mold was a new mold, the steps are in the Mold. The lines on the boat are very classic and taken off the original Aronow design. The Chief is not a Splash. The plug was cut on a CNC machine.

    Ratickle, you are correct onthe 41 and 47 molds with Saber. The 47 was Bill Dahl's, he bought at the auction, not sure how that all came about.
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    Thanks for the info!

    So where did Pantera's 41 originate?
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    The Pantera mold is the from the Thad Allen Apache project. The step profile is not from the Thad Allen project, however. The steps in the Pantera mold were modified under the advice and direction of a well known Cat builder.
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    Talking with Bobby at the show, the test boat for the new 42 Chief was not a 41. It was a 36 mold they worked with the hull designer from the Netherlands on and tweaked before building the new 42 mold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    Talking with Bobby at the show, the test boat for the new 42 Chief was not a 41. It was a 36 mold they worked with the hull designer from the Netherlands on and tweaked before building the new 42 mold.
    That is correct the design was made into an insert for the 36 mold. The naval architect designed the steps and running surfaces. Once tested the cad was done for the new 42. IF you look at the boat close it looks more like Bob's 36 design then the original 41. The running surfaces were all the same with tweaking until the steps came into play. In the end though the all originated from Don's original designs.

    The legend boats are another story.
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    The legend boats???
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    Paul, White Lightning is a "Legend".
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgrady View Post
    Some pics from Miami
    That cockpit looks fabulous.....
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    A new article on the boat from Speed On The Water at this year's LOTO Shootout

    http://www.offshoreonly.com/articles...ting-the-chief
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    Still looks really good.
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