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    I'm not saying that Trayvon was an angel. He was going to end up dead or in prison one day. But...

    My initial post was about the legal precedent that now exists. A total stranger can now approach you, make you angry, and once you start kicking his ass, he can and will shoot and kill you. The smart thing to do now is run from danger, don't confront it. Be a wimp. Run away. Don't be a real man, because you will be a dead man!
    If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayinaustin View Post
    I'm not saying that Trayvon was an angel. He was going to end up dead or in prison one day. But...

    My initial post was about the legal precedent that now exists.!
    Yep, dead. Sooner rather than later.

    And the precedent set is that if you are attacked, defend yourself any way available.

    Clay, look at your own sig line.

    Think about it.

    If someone is threatening my life, or that of my family, I'm using every resource available to stop the situation.
    Not with intent to kill, but to secure my safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buoy View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    What he said!
    sup bro? how you doing? you have a boat these days? it's ratman from oso, that took you and your gal out for a ride... take care, rm
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayinaustin View Post
    I'm not saying that Trayvon was an angel. He was going to end up dead or in prison one day. But...

    My initial post was about the legal precedent that now exists. A total stranger can now approach you, make you angry, and once you start kicking his ass, he can and will shoot and kill you. The smart thing to do now is run from danger, don't confront it. Be a wimp. Run away. Don't be a real man, because you will be a dead man!
    i don't thank that just because someone makes you angry you have the right to beat the piss out of them, tho many sure know how to ask for a serving of whup azz. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buoy View Post
    Hey Phil!!!
    How ya been?
    everything is great, im living in medellin colombia, im getting ready to build a hotel/hostel on an island a buddy of mine owns... it will be a fun project, i am buying a 26' shamorock cc boat with a diesel next week to haul guests and building materials to the island... take care...rm
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayinaustin View Post
    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but... Trayvon Martin was walking down the street. George Zimmerman initiated contact. A fight ensued, and Zimmerman shot and killed Martin.

    Most of us here are "manly" men. If we were minding our own business and someone confronted us, the situation would probably escalate and we would be kicking some ass! Then suddenly we are shot and killed my the person who initiated contact. Because we are tough and they are wimpy, they are found not guilty. I find this scary!
    This is emotional, illogical, and assumptive in regard to facts of the case we are discussing.
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    My take on this whole thing:

    Zimmerman should not have confronted Martin.
    Martin was not a child.
    When confronted, Martin should have either run or waited for the cops.
    Block watch meets prowler.
    Both men "Stand their ground."
    Martin loses.
    Zimmerman loses.

    Next: the racial reaction. Idiots will suggest that it is open season on blacks.

    I am not an attorney, but I don't think that this case is precedent setting in the state of Florida. I do not expect appeals in other cases based on the jury ruling in this case.

    I expect a civil suit against Zimmerman by the family of Martin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratabastardahole View Post
    sup bro? how you doing? you have a boat these days? it's ratman from oso, that took you and your gal out for a ride... take care, rm
    A ride I'll remember for the rest of my life!

    I've got a 24 Pantera now, but it's in pieces.

    Good luck with the hotel.
    "Keep the bottle on the bar Ira, I won't be long".
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    Photos of the Zimmerman jury finally released.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buoy View Post
    And the precedent set is that if you are attacked, defend yourself any way available.
    A guy picked me up and threw me into a jukebox once.

    So naturally, I threw him into the kitchen.

    His buddies carried him out the back door. They politely declined a turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor View Post
    A guy picked me up and threw me into a jukebox once.

    So naturally, I threw him into the kitchen.

    His buddies carried him out the back door. They politely declined a turn.
    There's a joke in there somewhere --"Hell's Kitchen", " Iron Chef"-----something
    People we meet in life are either a Blessing or a Lesson
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    They eventually made a real door out of the hole he left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor View Post
    A guy picked me up and threw me into a jukebox once.

    So naturally, I threw him into the kitchen.

    His buddies carried him out the back door. They politely declined a turn.
    Ed, with your bad knee, you shouldn't be throwing anybody.
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    Thanks Grace.
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    It's true...
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