Who is the most copied boat builder?

[Offshore Ginger]

I really thought the photo taken with Don and the Beatles in a Formula back in 65 was really interesting , and where were all of you back then Ha Ha Ha .And for starter's .....when is the last time you heard I wanna hold your hand by the Beatles ....................................

[Offshore Ginger]

I can almost bet that more then a few of you have already seen this which more or less is a restoration in process which in my opinion is a very interesting read considering Coyote was actually the start of ................................................. http://www.joesboats.com/

[Ryan Beckley]

Yea, the 25 Talon, is definitely one of the most copied, almost all of the west coast builders have splashed it a time or two, plus Motion, American Offshore, Aronow and I am sure a few more.....

[Ratickle]

The Fountain bottom designs seem to get copied a lot in the Vee community. No one copies the "Beak", but the bottoms are popular here in the later days of the step designs. The latest knockoff has certainly improved in handling and performance over the original.....

[Steve 1]

and then you can get a 41 apache, mcmanus, chief, saber, pantera, north coast,checkmate, In sure i missed a few other companies. Almost forgot, Saber (the company) its assests and molds are currently for sale, so if your interested you could throw your name in the hat too..... (you would of course, be responsible for getting your own leather jacket though)

That Pantera is NOT a copy !

[Offshore Ginger]

Welcome back ole friend.................. long time no see .

[old377guy]

That Pantera is NOT a copy !

Thanks Steve, I didn't realize that.

[Bobcat]

Welcome back ole friend.................. long time no see .

[phragle]

That Pantera is NOT a copy !

Derivative....

[Ratickle]

From Pepe......

Paul, Steve's post is in Re/ to the 41' Pantera which he built the molds for, before I got them.

Re/ the 24' x 7' the original boat was a magnum built w/ outboards for Doc Magoon, original mold was bought from magnum and sold to Excalibur in Sarasota.

While the molds were in Miami a duplicate set of molds was built by P+D and there you have the PD 24' while in late 1975 I bought a PD changed the deck and asked PD to build me the Pantera verson but their build was junk, so I took my deck mold and made the hull mold and there you have Pantera (me) building the boats.

About that time Superboat was born by having PD build a few boats and then basically doing the same as I did.

I think (not to brag) the pantera 24' became the most popular of all 24/7 because of all the racing I did back then especially the Miami to NY run in 1978.

There you have it from the horses mouth.
Thks,
PP

And a quick follow-up......

Forgot one thing,
I consider Steve Koss to be probably the most knowledgeable and experienced all around guy in the go fast boat biz.
I mean that! (and have told him)
PP.


And along Pepe's thoughts, I think the Pantera may be the most popular because of the bullet-proof build quality they do. How many times have you read about a Pantera breaking in rough water???????

[Ratickle]

Which, getting back to the original question of this thread, makes the Magnum the most copied Vee ever in my opinion. The Excalibur was also the base model for the first Fountain from what I recall. The first dozen or so Fountains were even built at the Excalibur factory I believe...

[Bobcat]

Noah....hands down.....

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Noah....hands down.....

Oh yea.. Show me a picture of one afloat.

[phragle]

Oh yea.. Show me a picture of one afloat.

[Buoy]

I have to agree that I think the 27 Magnum was the base of a majority of the iconic hulls over the years.
At least the vee hulls.
If I'm not mistaken, the 35 Misstress was also based on this hull.
If I could have 3 boats in my stable it would be a 24 Pantera (have one), a 27 Magnum, and a 35 Mistress.

[old377guy]

25' Nova Marine, 31' Bertram, 41' Apache

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

10 Meter, 21 skater wi twin's, 38 SE Cigarette and why not a 25 Bertram cruiser.

[Ratickle]

10 Meter, 21 skater wi twin's, 38 SE Cigarette and why not a 25 Bertram cruiser.

Because that's 4, not 3......

[Offshore Ginger]

Bertram Baron , another 27 - Magnun Sport , 35 - Cigarette Mistress , and if it was a cat it most likely would be ................................. a Skater .

[old377guy]

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