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    Well, at least those people in Ohio who helped give him the election are getting what they voted for.....


    Under the Affordable Care Act, medical claim costs, the largest driver of health insurance premiums, are expected to increase by 32 percent for individuals, a new study by the Society of Actuaries finds.

    Though some states might see declines in cost-per-person medical claims, the report found “the overwhelming majority will see double-digit increases in their individual health insurance markets, where people purchase coverage directly from insurers,” the Associated Press reports.

    California’s claim costs are estimated to increase by 62 percent by 2017. In Ohio, it’s expected to be 80 percent. Florida costs are expected to grow 20 percent and in Maryland, 67 percent. The higher claim costs are related to the increase in sick people expected to join the pool, according to the report.
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    You gotta admit....as far as bankrupting the country...it's genius.


    Report Puts Obamacare's Cost at $30.8B, 114M Paperwork Hours



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    The latest estimate, as the chart details, is that Obamacare will cost $2.6 trillion dollars in its first real decade. The bill does not fully go into effect until 2014, therefore the estimate begins with that year.

    "President Obama promised a joint session of Congress in 2009 to spend $900 billion over ten years on his health care law: 'Now, add it all up, and the plan that I’m proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years.' Adding up all the different spending provisions in the health care law, however, (including closing the Medicare 'donut hole,' implementation costs, and other spending) total gross spending over the FY 2010–19 period is about $1.4 trillion, based on CBO estimates," the Senate Budget Committee Republican staff explains. "And most of the major spending provisions in the law do not even take effect until 2014. Congressional Democrats delayed these provisions in order to show only six years of spending under the plan in the original 10-year budget window (from FY2010-19) used by CBO at the time the law was enacted. Therefore, the original estimate concealed the fact that most of the law’s spending only doesn’t even begin until four years into the 10-year window. A Senate Budget Committee analysis (based on CBO estimates and growth rates) finds that that total spending under the law will amount to at least $2.6 trillion over a true 10-year period (from FY2014–23)—not $900 billion, as President Obama originally promised."

    The chart is being released now to coincide with the House vote later today to repeal Obamacare.
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    If only we could hack in and make that Paul's new avatar
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    Where's Jason ??? He might do it for Beer....
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    If only we could hack in and make that Paul's new avatar
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    I guess they must have the world wide web over in Malta
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    I heard he's in Indiana....which sounds pretty exotic for Michiganders !!!
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    Naw, a bit farther than Indiana.
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    gosh, ..... let me think............. a chicken licker????
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    Close enough...


    Funny that Michelle is now a single Mom.....
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    whole family needs to be unemployed too
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    AR15 manufacturers are happy though......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    AR15 manufacturers are happy though......
    I've noticed that prices have come down some. Mini-14s had jumped up to $1,500, and I saw one yesterday at Gander Mountain for $850.00, which means the actual prices are around $750.00.
    Gander Mountain probably had 10-15 ar style rifles on the shelf.
    Bushmaster 6920 are around a grand at Bud's.

    Kind of been looking for a Ruger 556, but they are hard to find, and still around $1,800.

    Ammo sure is still hard to find, other than on Gunbroker.
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    Key West, yes?
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    In BC we have monthly premiums for our government health insurance, I think we are the only province that charges for healthcare insurance. Albeit its heavily subsidized by our income taxes, provincial and federal sales taxes. So I pay $66.50 per month. I've wondered how much more a single person in the states would pay under obumercare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by old377guy View Post
    Key West, yes?
    I don't think so. They are dressed like Mr. Rogers.
    In Key West, they would be dressed like Ginger Rogers.
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