Either sell my Bertram Competition 38' or make into a 5 seater with bigger power

[Bertram38]

Took my Bertram out this past weekend on the st johns river with some peeps. Well being that my B38 is the organel race setup for 3 people makes it kinda hard to do anything. poker runs are just fine, but then there is always the 4th person. So last weekend kinda pissed me off to either SELL or move the dash forward 4 feet and create a 5 seat bad boy. buckets and center console like the red/white bertram would be awesome.
Kinda lost currently.
Your thoughts are welcome you all.

maybe a trade???,
Bertram 38

[Ratickle]

Well, gonna sound crazy, but I'd do a two seat "trundle/bow-rider", in front of the current setup, with removable hard covers.

Do you have a direct top shot? If so, I could lay it out like I mean. But just think of the trundle seat in an old Ford, combined with the bowrider set-up being used a lot on performance Vee's on the West Coast. With the "Trundle" closed, looks just like now, with it open, two more seats.

Then put a snapon cushion on each side of the hatch scoops, so the girl in the red bikini, and at least one of her friends, have room to stretch out....

[Ratickle]

It would look kinda like this with the two hatch-trundles flipped open...

[TUCK646]

Killer Bert, sounds like you grown /growing out of it. Rat's idea is an interesting idea, personally i don't think i would /could hack into (THAT)boat, I'd buy / build something else and keep the Bert for yourself.If thats not an option,love it enough to let it go. Just my opinion.

gonna be a tough choice.

[Bertram38]

Ratickle, cool thought. I would rather be in front then behind the idiot passengers. I would would be wearing all the bear and cig butts. LOL

Remember the red white Bertram. dash was moved forward with a wind screen. Love the seating and center console. sweet.

[Ratickle]

Now do those passengers really look like idiots????



And smokers get the ejection button!

[Ratickle]

How are your bulkheads and stringer arrangement for doing the move?

[Bobcat]

Don't cut that boat !

[fund razor]

Ratickle, cool thought. I would rather be in front then behind the idiot passengers. I would would be wearing all the bear and cig butts. LOL

Remember the red white Bertram. dash was moved forward with a wind screen. Love the seating and center console. sweet.

Is that a staggered?

I also vote for trading/selling rather than cutting. But agree that Paul's imagination is creative.

[Bertram38]

no hurry for now, just need that deck hardware from ratickles photo. bigger power is still ok by all i see. hmmm.

[Bertram38]

Yes Staggered

Is that a staggered?

I also vote for trading/selling rather than cutting. But agree that Paul's imagination is creative.

[lucky strike]

Give Phil a call. Mabe he would like to have it back.

[rchevelle71]

It would look kinda like this with the two hatch-trundles flipped open...

COOL, and it even comes with triplets

[Bertram38]

He stated a few years back that he wish he could have NNIII back. but he is retired and taking life easy.
Sure would be cool though.
Kurt

[Ratickle]

Maybe Rich and Phil could take it for a shakedown test?

[NNRT]

Hey Steve ! - um.... a thought - but NO THANKS - It is always the problem with a single purpose boat - Race Boat - problem with taking others out for a ride- or selling it too- In today's market - am sure it would be difficult to sell - We all go through stages in our lives, that was one of them - after building a factory in the Bahamas and seeing the Bahamas 500 back in 1970 - it got me interested -- then came the Video gig - that too was fun - great perch - fun to do as well - even that has passed too - Now its Memories, of events, and people ! What ever you decide to do Kurt - just do it - enjoy the unique hull -you have one of what - 12 built - something like that - think its the last of the plain fiberglass hulls too -

Hi again to Steve - Maida too - "let me ask her a question " - be well all of you - PHIL

[Bertram38]

Hi Phil

Good to hear you are doing well. thanks for the words, I plan on changing the deck to match the red Bertram. Completely usable in all fashions.
She will never be in competition again. But sure will be fun in poker runs with FOUR People. not 3. I can use her more than just a retired race boat.
Plus updateing will help in overall performance and comfort. OOOPs forgot SAFETY first.

Hey Steve ! - um.... a thought - but NO THANKS - It is always the problem with a single purpose boat - Race Boat - problem with taking others out for a ride- or selling it too- In today's market - am sure it would be difficult to sell - We all go through stages in our lives, that was one of them - after building a factory in the Bahamas and seeing the Bahamas 500 back in 1970 - it got me interested -- then came the Video gig - that too was fun - great perch - fun to do as well - even that has passed too - Now its Memories, of events, and people ! What ever you decide to do Kurt - just do it - enjoy the unique hull -you have one of what - 12 built - something like that - think its the last of the plain fiberglass hulls too -

Hi again to Steve - Maida too - "let me ask her a question " - be well all of you - PHIL

[Ratickle]

I know there are not many pictures, but wasn't Sopwith's 400 (Double-O-Seven) boat that burned in the race when Vincenzo saved them a 38 competition with front and back seats? In that story we did on Vincenzo's passing there was a pic, but that may be one of very few.

[NNRT]

The only 38 Bertram that I know of - that had 4 place config. was the German guys - Think it was Oskar Trost - boat name was WD-40-
Phil

[Ratickle]

Thanks Phil. Tommy's may not have been a Bertram.


Here's Oskar's 4 seater though... (Thanks Charlie)