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    Well I heard the announcer say "We wanted Mike S to be the pase boat this year. But since his new boat isn't hear yet, we are cancelling all activities for today!". He went on to say ..." If the USCG could see that AT go through this sutff, they might release their Small Craft Warnings and allow racing again...".


    Seriously, I'm pretty sure is was USCG made the call, not SBI. Heard the announcer say "it wasn't SBI's call". I think the SUCG needed to keep their Small Craft Warning in effect, thus couldn't allow racing to go on with "small" crafts by their standards. I don't know if all of this is true, nor do I speak for the USCG, jsut reporting what I heard and piecing things together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    Has anyone talked with the organizers yet to see how the discussion went?
    Yes I did.. they said 'who the F*** are you!??'
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL View Post
    Yes I did.. they said 'who the F*** are you!??'
    Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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    Had a friend down there on Saturday. Sent me a couple pics he took of the storm rolling in.


    Not real crowded then.....


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    Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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    We refer to that as "The Black Wall of Death." Man...I am soooooo glad I was on the trailer! Also...I'm kinda happy that I didn't have to run back in that water on Sunday. If it weren't for getting Michelle back to the party, we'd have spent Saturday night as well and had to run back to East Chicago with bad hangovers in 4-7s.
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    There were multiple reasons which may have led to the cancellation of the race. First of all I cannot believe that the City allowed people to be in the water. I know in New Buffalo they will not let anyone in the water when there are larger waves with strong undertows. Literally right before 1 PM when the race was supposed to start a Lifeguard saw someone in trouble and a search and rescue effort began. They had every available DNR, Coast Guard and other boats searching for the swimmer.....it still has not been confirmed whether or not anyone actually drown or not. They would of had to delay the race start for this alone. AKDAN went out on the lake and can give us a first hand report on how rough it was....all I know is that a 31 Cig Bullet went out and tried to get turned around and when he turned into the waves the boat stood up on the transom. My opinion is that the race needs to be planned for Saturday with Sunday as a backup day for both waves and weather.....practice would be on Friday.
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    Usually that doesn't work, because most people only come for the day. However, that doesn't mean it wouldn't work in the case of Michigan City because the vast majority of visitors are only a few hours drive.

    But, anytime there is a race schedules where the course runs close to a shore with possible wave issues in event of a storm/high wind. There is also a planned storm course farther offshore just in case. The probalem for most of the boats isn't that the water is too rough, heck Orange Beach last year had to be 6's with the occasional 8, but that the water is too shallow for rescue time when the course is close to shore. With the canopied boats especially, drifting upside down into shore with no time for rescue can be a huge problem. In an open boat, not so much because it would be extremely rare to still be in the boat.

    I don't know what the issue was for cancellation, maybe just because the Coast Guard said no with a possible lost person in the water. It's their permit that you get, they can do anything they want to the race if they deem it a done deal.
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    I'm with you on the people in the water. Red flag undertows means no one in the water up here in Holland or Grand Haven also.
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    I thought I had the only Bullet there......it wasn't me. Bullet would have handled it no problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL View Post
    Yes I did.. they said 'who the F*** are you!??'
    You should have sent Austin. He's the real badass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SC288 View Post
    There were multiple reasons which may have led to the cancellation of the race. First or all I cannot believe that the City allowed people to be in the water. I know in New Buffalo they will not let anyone in the water when there are larger waves with strong undertows. Literally right before 1 PM when the race was supposed to start a Lifeguard saw someone in trouble and a search and rescue effort began. They had every available DNR, Coast Guard and other boats searching for the swimmer.....it still has not been confirmed whether or not anyone actually drown or not. They would of had to delay the race start for this alone. AKDAN went out on the lake and can give us a first hand report on how rough it was....all I know is that a 31 Cig Bullet went out and tried to get turned around and when he turned into the waves the boat stood up on the transom. My opinion is that the race needs to be planned for Saturday with Sunday as a backup day for both waves and weather.....practice would be on Friday.
    Not to mention the wakeboard boat that had only the dad and 3 small kids onboard... they really thought they were going back to portage in that chit?!?! I saw two waves go over the front and the bilge PUMPS running as they limped back into the marina... dad of the year! You have my vote!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eightsecmopar View Post
    I thought I had the only Bullet there......it wasn't me. Bullet would have handled it no problem
    Did i see you leave saturday?
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    Yes, I left after the storm. My son had a baskeball tournament on Sunday and I didn't feel like loading the boat by myself on Sunday so I packed it in Saturday night. With the lake water level being down it was hard to even unload the boat over at Trail Creek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    Usually that doesn't work, because most people only come for the day. However, that doesn't mean it wouldn't work in the case of Michigan City because the vast majority of visitors are only a few hours drive.

    But, anytime there is a race schedules where the course runs close to a shore with possible wave issues in event of a storm/high wind. There is also a planned storm course farther offshore just in case. The probalem for most of the boats isn't that the water is too rough, heck Orange Beach last year had to be 6's with the occasional 8, but that the water is too shallow for rescue time when the course is close to shore. With the canopied boats especially, drifting upside down into shore with no time for rescue can be a huge problem. In an open boat, not so much because it would be extremely rare to still be in the boat.

    I don't know what the issue was for cancellation, maybe just because the Coast Guard said no with a possible lost person in the water. It's their permit that you get, they can do anything they want to the race if they deem it a done deal.
    They could do this however they would like but what I do know is that we knew a week ahead of time that there was a potential for very rough water on Sunday.....a cold front coming through Saturday night and highs in the mid 70's mean rough water for us down south. It would not be easy to plan but at the end of the day if they would have raced Saturday it would have been perfect. I would think that they could come up with some sort of plan that would allow them to tweak the schedule the week of etc. Worst case would again be practice Friday, race Saturday and if Saturday does not work push it back for Sunday. They would still get alot of people in attendance and the key would be that the racers could run and accrue points etc and not have their trips wasted.
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    A few pics I took
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    Quote Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER View Post
    Did you come to Michigan City Joe?
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    Joe can't go past Pastrick to the east and 31st St. to the west....its an unwritten T-dock rule or something. Lol.
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    Hey I was in the play pen Saturday!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotsommer View Post
    Joe can't go past Pastrick to the east and 31st St. to the west....its an unwritten T-dock rule or something. Lol.
    now that's some funny stuff right there...very TRUE
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