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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Same guy ?? Attachment 72935








    All kidding aside I wish luck. Where is the attempt going to be made ? The Salton Sea ?
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    And the other guy is just nuts. Big, big nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C35 View Post
    no such thing as protection at those sort of speeds. no matter what youre strapped into- barrel roll at 300 plus you might not even scratch the saftey capsule but youll find a flawless corpse inside. warby only lived cuz he didnt crash. other guys- not so much.
    I believe that 230+ is the fastest a drag boat guy has survived in their capsules. I think, with the proper engineering, a 300+ crash is survivable in a record attempt boat. But, not in every case depending on the crash hit.

    You'd have to have a crumple zone, around a breakaway capsule of some kind. But, even at that, a stuff and it's over because of the trauma. I think Lee's was a stuff because one of the front sponsons broke off in Lake Tahoe.
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    I was discussing with Harry Schoel, the speeds that the boats were getting up to at the shootout and he described it vividly to me like this....

    When you guys were racing in the 70's if you caught a drop of water with some spray, you got wet and you carried on, but with these speeds of 200 plus even a single drop of water has enough energy to rip your skin off!!!!
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    That's an eye opener right there Charlie.
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    If someone had a few months to live beacause of some illness then go for it. If not then you are just asking for a death wish. Its way,way,way to riskey !!!!!!
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    The World water speed record attempt has killed all except Warby. Ken Warby is the man and I am honored to be his friend
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    How does the record work? What happens if you go 400 MPH on the clock and you get killed slowing down. Are you the new record holder or do you have to live? At what point are you a plane and flying instead of being a boat? If you took a sea plane and started in the water and stopped in the water whats the differance or are wings not allowed? I agree Ken W. is the man and my hat is off to his record. He is one lucky man to have lived and set the mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty B View Post
    The World water speed record attempt has killed all except Warby. Ken Warby is the man and I am honored to be his friend
    That's pretty cool. I always thought he was the man. As a fan. Never met him personally. But learned as much as I could. You have a similar role for many people. An ambassador for the guys who are way out there on the edge. It's cool for us who don't get to go 200+ to get to associate with you, whether at events or like this. You are both great ambassadors for the illness.
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    You guys have stones that I don't have.
    I may have been able to do it as a younger man, but, not today.
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    Actually there was one guy who was documented to have gone faster way back in 1968? maybe. I can look it up. But he died and the record was at first documented, then not. I'm not sure if it was because he died, but I believe so.....


    I'll do some digging.....
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    Record Holders, Historical

    mph km/h Craft Pilot(s) Location Date

    70.86 114.04 Hydrodome IV Casey Baldwin Bras d'Or Lake 19 September 1919
    74.870 120.492 Miss America Gar Wood Detroit River 15 September 1920
    80.567 129.660 Miss America II Gar Wood Detroit River 6 September 1921
    87.392 140.644 Farman Hydroglider Jules Fisher River Seine 10 November 1924
    92.838 149.409 Miss America II George Wood Detroit River 4 September 1928
    93.123 149.867 Miss America VII Gar Wood Indian Creek 23 March 1929
    98.760 158.938 Miss England II Henry Segrave Windermere 13 June 1930
    102.256 164.565 Miss America IX Gar Wood Indian Creek 20 March 1931
    103.49 166.55 Miss England II Kaye Don Paraná River 15 April 1931
    110.223 177.387 Miss England II Kaye Don Lake Garda 31 July 1931
    111.712 179.783 Miss America IX Gar Wood Indian Creek 5 February 1932
    117 189 Miss England III Kaye Don Loch Lomond 18 July 1932
    119.81 192.82 Miss England III Kaye Don Loch Lomond 18 July 1932
    124.86 200.94 Miss America X Gar Wood St. Clair River 20 September 1932
    126.32 203.29 Bluebird K3 Malcolm Campbell Lake Maggiore 1 September 1937
    129.50 208.41 Bluebird K3 Malcolm Campbell Lake Maggiore 2 September 1937
    130.91 210.66 Bluebird K3 Malcolm Campbell Hallwilersee 17 September 1938
    141.74 228.11 Bluebird K4 Malcolm Campbell Coniston Water 19 August 1939
    160.323 258.015 Slo-Mo-Shun IV Stanley Sayres, Ted O. Jones Lake Washington 26 June 1950
    178.497 287.263 Slo-Mo-Shun IV Stanley Sayres, Elmer Leninschmidt Lake Washington 7 July 1952
    202.32 325.60 Bluebird K7 Donald Campbell Ullswater 23 July 1955
    216.20 347.94 Bluebird K7 Donald Campbell Lake Mead 16 November 1955
    225.63 363.12 Bluebird K7 Donald Campbell Coniston Water 19 September 1956
    239.07 384.75 Bluebird K7 Donald Campbell Coniston Water 7 November 1957
    248.62 400.12 Bluebird K7 Donald Campbell Coniston Water 10 November 1958
    260.35 418.99 Bluebird K7 Donald Campbell Coniston Water 14 May 1959
    276.33 444.71 Bluebird K7 Donald Campbell Lake Dumbleyung 31 December 1964
    285.22 459.02 Hustler Lee Taylor Lake Guntersville 30 June 1967
    288.60 464.46 Spirit of Australia Ken Warby Blowering Dam 20 November 1977
    317.596 511.13 Spirit of Australia Ken Warby Blowering Dam 8 October 1978
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    Warby's two records.....


    Takes some big ones not to back out when it starts rocking at over 300mph.....



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    The only way IMHO to break that record with some degree of safety and sanity is with size. With the power reportedly available (38,000 lbs thrust), I submit that an 80 plus foot hull would be the ticket. Make the damn thing big enough and the scale speed will decrease measureably......

    Looking at the "hull mold", and the "tub" , and the reported power...This will probably end in disaster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    The only way IMHO to break that record with some degree of safety and sanity is with size. With the power reportedly available (38,000 lbs thrust), I submit that an 80 plus foot hull would be the ticket. Make the damn thing big enough and the scale speed will decrease measureably......

    Looking at the "hull mold", and the "tub" , and the reported power...This will probably end in disaster.


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    I have o agree with Rich....that's a whole lot of power for that little boat!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete B View Post
    yes, 3000 lbs thrust from a J-34, This motor is a Rolls Royce olympus. with After burner 40000 pounds thrust. Still have to Fact check but I believe these motors were used in the Concorde!
    Yes, the Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593 was used on the Concorde. The final version had a bit under 40K lbf, in rehead (afterburner) mode.
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    A tough record to get for sure as history shows us -

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    Good find DONZI.
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    There are currently 4 different projects in the works to try to break the record.


    Interestingly enough, until Warby, no one other than an American or Englishman had ever held the record. Now it's the longest any one person has ever held it....
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    Has anyone heard any new coming out of Al Copelands camp on the Phenomenon prodject? It's been quite awhile
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