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    2 new drivers in 3 races would some it up.
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    Unless I'm missing something, it seems like this is newsworthy precisely because it happens so rarely. It seems that it could only have been lateral forces or shear forces that broke it in that way. Rotational or torque force couldn't be responsible as most all propeller thrust in an Arneson gets transferred to the transmission/engine. I may be negating the effects of prop lift on the unit. What does the race crew have to say about it?
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    I shot an email to Rik. I have not talked to the race team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    I shot an email to Rik. I have not talked to the race team.
    Thanks.
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    Glad to hear the BMAX held its own out there on the course for a year. Way to go J.P.
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    Glad to hear the BMAX held its own out there on the course for a year. Way to go J.P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P View Post
    2 new drivers in 3 races would some it up.
    You should have had me drive one of the races. Then it would be three for three......
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P View Post
    You have guts posting that I'm sure one of the Arneson cheer leaders will have a good explanation for us.

    The Bmax on the National Guard boat worked flawlessly all year with a 750 super cat in front of it.
    I'll stack reliability against yours any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old377guy View Post
    Unless I'm missing something, it seems like this is newsworthy precisely because it happens so rarely. It seems that it could only have been lateral forces or shear forces that broke it in that way. Rotational or torque force couldn't be responsible as most all propeller thrust in an Arneson gets transferred to the transmission/engine. I may be negating the effects of prop lift on the unit. What does the race crew have to say about it?
    The nut on the trim cylinder backed off and the piston dropped out of the cylinder, rest is
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    I noticed the cylinder with the cap still on but the rod gone. It reminded me of a piece of equipment we had. It had a cylinder that lost the rod nut several times. Finally after paying the factory guy to fix it several times I asked why it kept breaking. He couldn't tell me. So I watched him fix it. He pulled the cap, put the piston back on and then screwed the nut on, using Loctite. He then immediately put it back together and bled the system. It occurred to me later that the Loctite never had time to cure. Which led me to wonder why they didn't use a locknut in the first place- or even just stake the plain nut.

    I also wondered how something that received no twisting force was unscrewing, but that's beyond my understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rik View Post
    The nut on the trim cylinder backed off and the piston dropped out of the cylinder, rest is
    Is this their first year with the Arneson?
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    Sounds like a cuss, popcorn and beer moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rik View Post
    The nut on the trim cylinder backed off and the piston dropped out of the cylinder, rest is
    ANy idea why Rik????? I don't recall that happening before....
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    All I can think of is vibration on the piston nut. It cannot happen twice as the nut will be remedied. This is the first year with the Arnesons they purchased (used) and they love them. The boat had Bravo's originally, then due to reliability they went to MK#6's and then to Arnesons. The Arnesons out turn and handle both the Bravo's and #6's. They have increased their entry speeds into the turns by 20 mph they claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rik View Post
    The nut on the trim cylinder backed off and the piston dropped out of the cylinder, rest is
    I would think Safety wire would be the best way to keep this from happening!
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    Rik, it sounds like the fix is simple- per C35 and Pete B. Safety issues aside, I'm amused by some of the drama that ensues over these kinds of happenings.
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    Good idea Pete
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    Quote Originally Posted by old377guy View Post
    Rik, it sounds like the fix is simple- per C35 and Pete B. Safety issues aside, I'm amused by some of the drama that ensues over these kinds of happenings.
    Some have an agenda which is beyond necessary when apparently they need to take care of their own issues first. But this is the internet
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    sheeet thats it then, if I can't believe what I read on the internet then I can't believe anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    sheeet thats it then, if I can't believe what I read on the internet then I can't believe anything.
    Come on now, I just love in particular what an 18 yr old with a "Bayliner 19' powered by a Chrysler out board" has to tell an owner of a new 48 MTI with Merc 1350's. I find it really insightful
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