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    Yeah, I told them to go get Reggie... what do ya know... it worked... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulb32 View Post
    Looks like you all finally got your kidneys beaten loose. Missed some good water this weekend. Did Ryan break (based on Dan's comment above)?
    Mike-too bad your family day went that bad, at least they will remember it! Hopefully Dave put's a pair of voltage reg's in it for you.
    Dan & Todd, nice video's.

    Hope to see you guys this coming weekend.
    Ryan didnt break. He was being a good boy this weekend and took it nice and easy.

    In regards to Mike's charging problem, If I had to take a guess, I would bet on a problem the way his 3 wire alternators were wired up. They were working fine on his old stock merc setup. Both alternators puking regulators just because would be way to odd. Those 3 wire units MUST be wired properly, or they will overcharge and smoke the batteries, or smoke the regulators. The main larger wire gets hooked to the starter or main battery cables. The tricky ones are the small wires. One of them is a voltage sensing wire. Its purpose is to sense the system voltage, and tell the alternator to STOP charging. The other wire has to be hooked to the ign switch, which tells the alternator to charge, or excites it. If that wire gets hooked directly to a power source, and gets power when the engines are off, after a while it can fry the regulators.

    I thought Mike said they took the alternators off and had them tested, and they tested ok. If thats the case, and they tested fine on the bench, I would guess something is up on the "Boat" side of the alternator wiring. I had a similar issue while replacing a alternator with a different style on my Mack semi a couple years ago. One Wire alternators elminate all this. Only thing with them is in order to excite them, you must rev the engine a bit after starting to get them charging.

    I hope they get it straightened out soon. I know he is getting frustrated to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamsynergy View Post
    Yeah, I told them to go get Reggie... what do ya know... it worked... lol
    So thats why they wanted my autograph!
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    Joe...I'm pretty sure mine are already one wires. I agree though, that there's something on the "boat side."

    After I came in off the lake, I took the boat up river and under the bridge to at least let my parents enjoy SOME of the ride...I spun it around and headed back shortly after the bridge...in mid-u-turn, I look further upriver and there's the cop. In my head I'm thinking..."Dude...this guy thinks your are running from him. You are pulled over for SURE." I didn't look back...and I didn't get pulled.
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    Even if they converted your 3 wire setup, to a 1 wire setup, there needs to be a jumper wire from the battery terminal output of the alternator, to either the pink or purple wire coming from the alternator (i forget), along with the different style regulator they would have needed to use internally to make it operate properly. Problems with this conversion is that sometimes the alternator will start charging alot say at 3000+rpm.

    I would probably lean towards tossing those alternators. If your harness still can accomodate a factory merc style 3 wire unit, I'd go with that. If not, i would go with a new one wire unit like this one. This place carries both styles, alternators are NEW, not remans. They are really affordable, and lots of people have had good luck with them.

    http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-3720-n...adr0334-c.aspx

    I just cant see anything really other than the alternators themselves causing a overcharging issue where it smokes the battery and what not, the more I dwell on it. Then again, I am far from being a expert on anything! Just trying to help, hope you get it straightened out. The red boat is sounding way to awesome around the dock to hang it up early! Soooo much better than last years sound!

    If next weekend nothing changes, my boat is up in south haven. I have no problem swapping my alternators to your boat and seeing what happens for ya. I believe you have the std v belt units. Mine are stock Merc Motorola 55amp units. 13.8v while idling or 5000rpm.
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    Dave's got the boat now...first task was gonna be to take the alternators back to his guy and recheck them...

    The majorly frustrating part is that the motors are GREAT. I love them. I love how they sound, I love the power...they are pretty much all that I wanted from Dave and more. And now I've got something else to deal with .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Medicine View Post
    Thats the same thing the coast guard does in Michigan City, but they are out for blood. The water cops in South Haven seem pretty cool, as long as ur not totally hammered and your safety stuff is in order. I remember one year in Michigan City the Coast Guard had officers standing on the pier head by the
    yacht club waving people down to check them out.
    Seems odd for Coasties......

    I usually like those guys.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER View Post
    I would probably lean towards tossing those alternators. If your harness still can accomodate a factory merc style 3 wire unit, I'd go with that. If not, i would go with a new one wire unit like this one. This place carries both styles, alternators are NEW, not remans. They are really affordable, and lots of people have had good luck with them.

    http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-3720-n...adr0334-c.aspx
    That is a good price for new chrome alternaters......
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    You guys in Mi & Ind seem to have a real big problem with all the water cops. LOL I NEVER have any problems like that here in chicago, even in the harbors. Maybe it might be because the head DNR officer in northern Ill, is one of my very close friends, and he is THE guy that uses the noise meter and writes the noise tickets. Even his co-workers know me now, and they even came on the boat at the scene party for a couple cold waters and teas. If myself or anyone I'm with has a problem with any of the authorities in Ill, I can even call him at home and let him take care of it.
    I'd have a hard time dealing with the crap that you guys are talkin about here.
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    That cop went by me 3 different times and only waved and I have no numbers.
    He must be in the Baja brotherhood
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL View Post
    That cop went by me 3 different times and only waved and I have no numbers.
    He must be in the Baja brotherhood
    Or he just didn't want to waste his time on "a baja" type lol

    then again, you may be right... There has to be like 200k of those boats around right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL View Post
    That cop went by me 3 different times and only waved and I have no numbers.
    He must be in the Baja brotherhood
    It would have been worth it to have him ask you if you had a horn on that thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL View Post
    That cop went by me 3 different times and only waved and I have no numbers.
    He must be in the Baja brotherhood
    They probably heard what you do with farm animals and want no part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotsommer View Post
    It would have been worth it to have him ask you if you had a horn on that thing...
    I could see this happening and the dude falling out of the boat... LMFAO!!!
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    That cop went by me 3 different times and only waved and I have no numbers.
    He must be in the Baja brotherhood
    Nah, I bet you just held up that shiny pointy thing, and all he saw was a flashy reflecting light. He thought "Damn, that boy can signal me morse code with a mirror, awesome! If he's that well prepared, I'll leave him alone....."
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamsynergy View Post
    Or he just didn't want to waste his time on "a baja" type lol

    then again, you may be right... There has to be like 200k of those boats around right?
    Extra serving of Haterade today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL View Post
    Extra serving of Haterade today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL View Post
    Extra serving of Haterade today?
    Of course Danno... of course! Extra servings for you brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamsynergy View Post
    Of course Danno... of course! Extra servings for you brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redhotsommer View Post
    Dave's got the boat now...first task was gonna be to take the alternators back to his guy and recheck them...

    The majorly frustrating part is that the motors are GREAT. I love them. I love how they sound, I love the power...they are pretty much all that I wanted from Dave and more. And now I've got something else to deal with .
    mike

    if you come up to get the boat over the weekend, make the short trip to grand haven. not old haven. we can put you up. door is open.

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