I don't know what the final weight addition was, I'm sure it is easy to find out. But I know the driver and throttleman for that boat said 1000 lbs would not have mattered one bit. It was just a dominant boat at the time.
Talking about that is what made me suggest drive height or RPM vs weight for possible parity adjustments in this class earlier in the discussion for 2011 rules. Some boats just run better with additional weight. I believe there are a couple in SVL currently that run over the minimum because of the overall speed of the boat in race conditions vs the top speed in a straight line under ideal conditions.
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12-12-2010 11:32 AMGetting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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12-12-2010 12:20 PM
You guys are debating rules that are designed to change if needed to ensure parity in the class..
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12-12-2010 12:28 PMWhich is exactly the way it should be.
I like the new rules, almost completely.......
I am curious of the way the engines will be sealed to prevent tampering. And also the allowed HP range on the Dyno.
Now, enforcement will be watched.....
Are you thinking of making the jump???????Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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12-12-2010 12:31 PMI think George would agree. He has done a bunch of work, trial and error, testing, etc to make the IMCO boat and team a front runner in almost every event it enters. The others in the class also deserve a lot of Kudos for the help they gave him. That is why I like that group so much, even if they get a little cranky sometimes........
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12-12-2010 08:21 PM
Without a doubt a step in the right direction, still several GREY areas in the engine department for a well funded team.
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12-13-2010 03:17 AM
Let me just say that In the world of Professional Motorsports my job is to extract every last HP from a given combination and to find grey areas.
There are Fuels/Additives that cannot be detected by the methods listed, the Merc wiring harness can be modified to alter ignition timing between the ECU and the Dist. and never show up on the dyno. There are Oils available today that will produce 20hp in this engine but after they are heated and then cool back down below 160f they will never produce that power again so the Dyno would never catch it. These are just a couple.
What OPA is doing is great and without a doubt a positive step in the right direction but when you have heavily funded teams these products/ideas are sought out and paid for. It becomes an ego thing for them not a moral thing.
I do applaud the efforts that OPA is making and hopefully it will bring the class back together and maybe even bring new boats. I just hate to see someone come into a class with a couple of extra checks in their checkbook and ruin it for the working racers in the class.
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12-13-2010 10:21 AM
The rules are guidelines and a place to start, I think that parity is what the ultimate goal is, if someone walks off from the pack next season, they will be pulled back in by the org.
This was the feeling I got from Smitty. Theres always going to be boats that perform better than others, that's racing, of any kind, but the idea is to keep us all in the same race this season, pretty sure you won't see what we had last season happen this year, if so it will be dealt with accordingly.
Thank you again Smitty for stepping up to bat, and helping our class get back on track.
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12-13-2010 04:39 PM
You got it. This is going to be much easier than you think. It is just going to take the effort. Many of you know my son, Anthony. He is all yours. I am handing him the bodies, and the tools, to do the job. We are building the OPA Tech Truck, just for you. Stocked with 525/Bravo parts. Plus one spare drive, and one spare 525. Smitty
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12-13-2010 07:56 PM
great , i think anthony will be a great asset to the class ,,he knows boats and rigging and he builds 525 ,s ,,thanks to OPA for all the efforts and time spent on our class,,
Lance , do you think I could borrow your LOTO engine for the first two races ??IMCO #10- 2009 National Champions
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12-13-2010 08:50 PM
Lol, if you can get it to pass the dyno and get it sealed,,, it's all yours George!!! Your gonna need to call Julie and order a custom built 31 pitch tho, we guessed and spun a six blade herring 34 lab finished 7,800 rpm at the shootout. May wanna get the ECM looked at to bump your rev limiter a bit, it starts to pull real nicely at about 6500..
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12-14-2010 01:58 PM
is it BLUE ,,lol
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12-14-2010 09:15 PMGeorge,I'm sure Lance can paint it blue if you really think it will matter.
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12-14-2010 10:35 PM
Whatever it takes to help a fellow svl racer!!! Lol. Heck, I'll even lend ya a world championship prop, if I ever get it back that is!!! Not sure randys gonna let me have it back....
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12-16-2010 07:00 PMI do not have a dog in this fight, other than to say that thsi is, without a doubt, the most fun class of offshore racing that there is! You guys lay it all out! I hope that whatever is chosen for the rules works for everybody. To be selfish, though, it should be in the rules that you race at Lake of the Ozarks once a year. We miss you guys!
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12-16-2010 07:04 PM
QUOTE=36Tango;536225]I do not have a dog in this fight, other than to say that thsi is, without a doubt, the most fun class of offshore racing that there is! You guys lay it all out! I hope that whatever is chosen for the rules works for everybody. To be selfish, though, it should be in the rules that you race at Lake of the Ozarks once a year. We miss you guys![/QUOTE]
x2 on the lake of the ozarks!!!!! help a brother out smitty!!!!
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12-16-2010 07:16 PM
We had an offer to race at Lake of the Ozarks but it's got to be a September race - no other available dates and it just doesn't work between Soloman's and Orange Beach.
Sorry, maybe if a date opens up in the future we'll try again. I agree, I love the lake and wish we could find a way to race there.