Fountain/Forehand Failure?

[Ratickle]

I agree, I would like to understand how any of the SVL (other than Sun Print) can run in the class. The SVL teams themselves have said that thier boats are not within the rules.

6.6.
Non-conforming Boats (“Grandfathering”) – Pre-Existing canopied boats
registered in any year from 1997–2002, 1998, 1999, 2000, or 2001 Super V Limited Classes, may be approved for competition provided that the owner submits a written request for approval and said request is approved by SBIP, in its sole and absolute discretion, at least 30 days prior to competition.

Hulls and decks racing under this "grandfather rule", which become lost or destroyed, must be replaced by equipment that meets the then current rules for Super V Limited.

[imco offshore]

thanks rat

[Ron P]

I chatted with the Ilmor guys in Key West for awhile.

Their 570 hp engine is flywheel rated, not prop like the 525 Merc. It would be a very close platform to the 525 and the Vortec in its present configuration.

They are interested in being included as a legal engine. If the "Parity" rule were in place in the orgs, and they knew what it was, they would be very interested in participating going forward.

Me, being greedy, would like to see the engine rule be such that it was identical for SVL, Cat Light, and SV. Why screw around with a base platform that varies just a little between classes of hulls and number of engines?

I'd love to see other engine builders to enter the class, but then you run the risk of going back to wallet racing. As soon as the Ilmor shows an advantage over the Merc, one of two things will need to happen. 1 - Everyone buys an Ilmor. 2. The Ilmor boat get slowed down for parity. It's a slippery slope once you open the door. One reason this class thrives is the low cost of remaining competitive.

From conversations we've had, I believe Smitty will provide a solution that takes care of the 525/bravo program. Give him a few weeks to get it on paper.

[XtremeRacing]

If the engine meets the spec's set forth in the rule book there is no reason not to open it up. The more engine builders the better, Innovation, and Tyler also come into play.

[fastedy]

"111" anyone remember this, multiple engines is what distroyed F1 and F2

[XtremeRacing]

"111" anyone remember this, multiple engines is what distroyed F1 and F2

Thats not true it was going from a HP 500 to a 525 what was the problem.

[Wahoo 214]

6.6.
Non-conforming Boats (“Grandfathering”) – Pre-Existing canopied boats
registered in any year from 1997–2002, 1998, 1999, 2000, or 2001 Super V Limited Classes, may be approved for competition provided that the owner submits a written request for approval and said request is approved by SBIP, in its sole and absolute discretion, at least 30 days prior to competition.

Hulls and decks racing under this "grandfather rule", which become lost or destroyed, must be replaced by equipment that meets the then current rules for Super V Limited.

Yes, but does this include hull modifications or maintence/refresh from an unapproved provider?

[fastedy]

Thats not true it was going from a HP 500 to a 525 what was the problem.

and the Vortech, and minimum weights ran from somthing like 4500 to 5175

[imco offshore]

alls i have ever read was that f-1 and f-2 was the best racing in offshore .the biggest classes and the closest racing ,,( from the past teams),,

[Team Tsunami]

Not to get off topic but I came across this on the other site an thought it should be posted here. If not I'll delete it.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7697875/

[imco offshore]

Not to get off topic but I came across this on the other site an thought it should be posted here. If not I'll delete it.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7697875/

it,s ok cartoons are funny ,,

[Wazzup Racing]

If the engine meets the spec's set forth in the rule book there is no reason not to open it up. The more engine builders the better, Innovation, and Tyler also come into play.

Not true. Boils down to a battle of engine builder vrs engine builder.
Single supplier, everyone has the same stuff. The team makes the difference.

[XtremeRacing]

The problem with that is the cost of re builds become costly, and then dyno time again.

Why wouldnt u want multiple engine builders, and fresh blood that wants to help the sport, support teams and possible sponsorship money? If you go with that therary then we should only have one boat builder and then really have the teams make the difference.

Merc has sucked about all the blood they can out of most of us.

We all saw what one engine supplier being in control did to F1,F2, and the Supercat Class.

[imco offshore]

yea ,but we all have them ,,and their cheeper to rebuild ,,and the class already exsist with them..and they are all over to buy,,,were not looking to change the class ,,just run the 10 or so we have ,KISS

[XtremeRacing]

George
You dont have to change anything, you have Merc and Votrec now doesnt seem to cause a problem. If another builder can build the same engine and can offer it at as good or better price why not? Doesnt mean anyone has to buy anything just another option.

[XtremeRacing]

I dont think it really matter what engine it is if it meets spec's . Thats not the problem, policing is the issue not the motor.

If you think about it a motor is no different then a boat if it fit and meets spec's it works. Its the inspection that make the difference.

[imco offshore]

no ,,, then we have an engine money war , let them build 525 ,s were allowed to rebuild 525 ,,,and vortecs that it ,, not an engine war ,,

[imco offshore]

your right about policeing ,,so why get involved with it ,,

[XtremeRacing]

With the equipment SBI has there might even be an easier and less exspensive way to do it all. We are looking at different option might now. I spoke to Steve about it today and value his opinion he seemed open to the idea so we will talk more about it.

[imco offshore]

well it,s only 4 days since the worlds ,,when did they get these tools,!!!