Thread: 103 in an svl ?
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09-01-2010 12:23 PM
Originally Posted by Wahoo 214 View Post
What would have been cool, would have been if all the SVL ran in the same "stock" class to see who really has the speed
Dean that would be cool,,IF THEY DID THAT AT A RACE,,,,,,??
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09-01-2010 12:23 PMLance said he may do that, on the forums in open, months ago. It appeared as if it met all the rules. Which, it did.
There was no notification a class had been added to split up canopy Vee's of that length into seperate classes. The 525 is not considered a stock engine until this years event, and I cannot find out when it was added, still checking.
Some make way to much of stuff like this. It was a cool idea, it fell within the rules, (they were not disqualified, they won the class as originally spec'd and Doc won the "new" SVL class with "stock 525" engines), they are both safe, and it was kinda neat to watch (even the spin).
And to answer you Ron, the results would have been the same with the "players" on the opposite sides.Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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09-01-2010 12:39 PMThe engine swap was within the rules as originally posted. They were reviewed by multiple people before the swap. There was no such thing as an SVL class, it was a canopy Vee class within the 27' to 31' range. And the 525 is not a stock engine by rule until this SVL class was added, which wasn't published that anyone knew about.
The game plan was to have the fastest boat in the class, PV3M, and have fun. I wish I had known before the event, it would have been fun to know. They probably didn't trust my secret carrying abilities....Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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09-01-2010 12:42 PMMorehead is someone who obviously has never been in a race or payed attention to what has happened over the years in racing and what some of these guys have accomplished.
Getting bad advice is unfortunate, taking bad advice is a Serious matter!!
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09-01-2010 01:09 PM
the engine classification never changed. It has always been S, F, M and P.
500 Hp, 500 efi, 525 has been Factory for over a decade. Nothing was changed. A modifiend N/A engine is in M class, that hasn't changed in probably 2 decades. No classes were changed, as a 525 would have always been in the F class. Octance was DQ'd out of that class and put in the correct M class.
Stock is for things like 496 Mag/HO, 502's, etc. The Factory class came from the need to seperate Mercury Racing products from true stock engines.
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09-01-2010 01:25 PMEspecially when they come by the finish /start line , With hands off the wheel !.
One Time While explaining the talent it takes to do this and why I would love to participate in it to my wife !We see the driver in a high profile " OVER 30 ft " boat waving at his girlfreind thru the f-15 canopy .
You cant do that in an svl . At least not the one I was being taught in .Last edited by mdkeywest; 09-01-2010 at 01:38 PM.
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09-01-2010 01:58 PM
No I didn't miss it. But I'm not clear on what you are saying...or implying?
Seems like you are implying someone is tampering with something in the boat. Correct? If so, why don't you guys swap ECM units right before the race?
I had to buy 20 ECMs from Merc Racing for the Cat Lite and 850 class because of rumors of the exact same thing. Call OSS and see if you can borrow a few.
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09-01-2010 01:59 PM
True. Years ago a few of us with actual F1 boats, a couple of F2 boats, and an original F3 boat got together with the Fire officials that ran the event and agreed that a stock/pleasure 454 or 502Mag was not a fair match for a Factory class HP500 boat. That was the year that V1-F1 and V2-F2 was created by the Lake Rescue officials. Later, they allowed the 525 to keep in line with Pro series classes.
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09-01-2010 02:24 PM
I believe it runs 95 and the radar guns were slightly off as others have stated when compared to onboard GPS.
The point is....some sort of parity rules need to put in place for next year. I've offered George and a few others my thoughts in writing on how that could happen. I just suprized that no one is discussing how to fix the problem. George is implying that someone is cheating by changing the ECM settings right before the race, using a laptop. I don't believe this is true. I do believe the fountain hull is just a little faster and some form of Parity needs to be put in place. What happens when Outlimits builds a faster SVL? Or Fountain builds a second one that's faster than the first? Then we go through this all over again.
FIX IT NOW. You missed the chance to limit hulls to Phantoms and Extreme.
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09-01-2010 03:09 PMLot a smart guys on this thread . Really there are .
Some from OPA, some from SBI . ( current entities )
I know many of you have tried and stumbled , been robbed , whatever . I agree . I've seen some pretty good work dissasembled by an elite few.
It WOULD be nice to see you put aside differences to work on this ONE class " SVL "
No others .
No other changes in youre p- or # classes .
Only " SVL " .
If I have read correctly P-1 wants out of the original agreement ?
The Teams seem to still be on board with something .
Would you ( SBI /OPA ) consider working something for next year ?
I know this question has to be answered over the next few months By them .
Great class . You should strive higher .
It was shown in LOTO that New hull's have no problem starting a new class ,and leaving " classic svl,s " behind.
There are more than enough of you to make that new class remain very small .