Saturday, August 7 - b.i.o. Brian Miller run

[Magic Medicine]

I wouldn't do that if I was you.

Tell them how you really feel!!!!

[redhotsommer]

Hahahaha!

Thanks again for the ride Mike...that AT is awesome.

[ICDEDPPL]

The upper gearset is shot, at this rate I might as well just go imco

[B.Z.]

The upper gearset is shot, at this rate I might as well just go imco

Is an XR?????

if so I have a gearset already!!!!

[Magic Medicine]

The upper gearset is shot, at this rate I might as well just go imco

That sucks!!!

[ICDEDPPL]

B.Z.
Is it installed in a XR upper? lol
Let me know what you want for it..
I`m also thinking of Teague upper or Max Worx rebuild or complete upper.. maybe just buying a spare for now till I figure something out.. I dunno, I just want to be back on the water.

btw, anyone here a member of Platinum Powerboat club?

[B.Z.]

OH I got lot's of spare XR parts......

[teamsynergy]

I run twin 575's and had two new "built" cryo'd, polished, ect XR's done last year. Both chunked out at around 4 hours. Not a failure but would have been if I had not pulled the cap to check them out. The XR gear sets have been pulled from being manufactured here in the states to being produced overseas. Mercury has several forging partnerships and unfortunatly, the blend in the forging process has caused massive casualties amongst gearsets within the last 3-4 years. My builder talked me into switching to XZ's and building them up like we did the XR's. So far we have approx. 25 hours hours on them with great results. Just did the fluid change prior to this weekends run and had the typical metal on the magnet from the breakin. I dont beat my stuff but I do run it. I will be staying away from XR's especially since I am running blowers... they dont seem to like the added torque...especially this new forging.

-Todd

[MILD THUNDER]

Ive heard stuff like this. Back when I ran TRS, I heard that the reproduction gears they were making today were junk.

It really sucks today that they dont offer drives that can handle power. Back in the 80's, speedmaster drives were commonly found on bigger go fasts. way stronger than any bravo, and back then, 600HP was considered big power. Nowadays, 600HP is moderate power, but other than a big money #6, what choices do you have.

Them old ssm 3a drives were behind many big heavy wave crushers with big Horsepower. Guys used to romp on them things all day, and rarely did you hear of twisted shafts, broken gears, etc. If they broke it was water contamination, or simply poor maintance.

Theres a guy on the boards, joe900sc. he has a 35 Fountain, that came with bravos. He had Jerry Stark at oasis marine in chicago convert it to the old ssm III drives. He runs 800HP keith eickerts thru them, and no drive issues. I highly doubt bravo's will last more than a 1/2 season on that setup boating on lake michigan. I dont care if you are bobby saccenti.

When the Bravo style drive came out in 1988, merc was still manufacturing TRS drives. The biggest engine you can get in that era coupled to a bravo was the 454/365HP mag motor. If you opted for the 454/420HP, you got TRS.

[teamsynergy]

Yeah, unless you drop the coin on the nxt or #6, failures are bound to happen with big horsepower... especially on the big lake. Its all a matter of time but at least my builder gives me a 2 year warranty no questions asked...

[MILD THUNDER]

Yeah, unless you drop the coin on the nxt or #6, failures are bound to happen with big horsepower... especially on the big lake. Its all a matter of time but at least my builder gives me a 2 year warranty no questions asked...

Thats way cool. Would make me feel alot better at least knowing i have a warranty on them. BTW good meeting you last weekend!

[redhotsommer]

Hey Joe...check your text messages! And clear out your damn voicemail box!

[MILD THUNDER]

Hey Joe...check your text messages! And clear out your damn voicemail box!

Stalker!

[obsessed1]

Yeah, unless you drop the coin on the nxt or #6, failures are bound to happen with big horsepower... especially on the big lake. Its all a matter of time but at least my builder gives me a 2 year warranty no questions asked...

Who do you use for the bravo stuff?, All American Drive Service?

[ICDEDPPL]

Who do you use for the bravo stuff?, All American Drive Service?

Yeah I wanna know too.. 2 year warranty that guy is crazy lol

I would go IMCO SCX but can`t justify the cost.
Why can`t somebody design a drive with an internal clutch, or something similar ..something that is preloaded to slip at a certain tq. It would prevent the stresses on the gears when coming out of the water for example.
Or even something as simple as a coupler that would break instead of the gears.
The ideas above are now patented btw

I ordered a Teague upper, that and some lessons in driving

[teamsynergy]

Yeah, the guys name is George from All American. He is a real great guy and took care of everything. I'm sure after the 2 year if I have any issues, he'll back me.

Good to meet you too Joe! Hope to chill with you guys again this summer...

[Ratickle]

Yeah I wanna know too.. 2 year warranty that guy is crazy lol

I would go IMCO SCX but can`t justify the cost.
Why can`t somebody design a drive with an internal clutch, or something similar ..something that is preloaded to slip at a certain tq. It would prevent the stresses on the gears when coming out of the water for example.
Or even something as simple as a coupler that would break instead of the gears.
The ideas above are now patented btw

I ordered a Teague upper, that and some lessons in driving

If you really wanted something like that, P1 is working on a torque limiter for their boats. SVL may have them in use in the future.

Martin, or one of the SVL guys could probably fill you in. I believe Martin said around $3900 when I chatted with him.

[ICDEDPPL]

They should just build in Torque management like all the F bodies I`ve had to delete that crap in the PCM but for boats it may work better

[Donskihp]

I see you ordered a teague upper,did you end up joing platinum club

[ICDEDPPL]

Don, yes I joined the club got a nice discount.. thanx for the heads up