my 86 42' excalibur eagle

[42JOHNNY]

I have an 86 42' Eagle that has the cabin stripped and the motors are out.
Have trannies (BW) and exhausts, motor mnts,generator,a/c, ect...
Nice hull, little stress cracks, in fact hull in pretty good shape.
Lost my job and may want to sell with trailer or part out.
Any idea what it is worth? Has trs drives, and every thing else but motors.
New tires and wheels and new fenders, has radar arch and bimini,props,bbq,toilet is still hooked up.
really only needs motors and it is a running boat. have title.








Thanks Johnny

[Steve 1]

That Boat would look real cool with the right paint job by Dave or one of the guys and the Head is a good way to get an OK on the deal from the wife.

[fund razor]

To answer your question without you having to search ebay for comparables or anything... I am sorry to inform you that it is worth very little as a project boat or semi-stripped hull.

Parting it out and then selling the hull may be the way to go. Especially since you have the genny, trannies, etc. Anybody who buys it will be buying the hull and the rest of the stuff is sort of a tiny bonus as anybody buying it will be spending much more in the end than a complete boat would cost. And let's say that I am a guy who has my own take out engines waiting on stands.... they would be going in a newer platform that would also be bought cheap as a hull.

I am sorry to hear that you lost your job and I wish you great luck as I am sure that networking and securing a new job is your number one priority and your new full time job.

[Offshore Ginger]

That Boat would look real cool with the right paint job by Dave or one of the guys and the Head is a good way to get an OK on the deal from the wife.

I agree with the exception of the forward cockpit seating and all the H P it takes to get a boat like that to do 60 or 70 although it is a great boat and will take some very big seas .

[42JOHNNY]

I agree with the exception of the forward cockpit seating and all the H P it takes to get a boat like that to do 60 or 70 although it is a great boat and will take some very big seas .

Yea, I was looking into bolsters..
others that I have talked to say it does 65 with the 440 from factory and 80+ with bigger motors and 4 blades.
The guy I got it from said it would do 75 with the built 502's in it.
But I bought it and took it out and a motor was bad.


Johnny

[Chris]

The guy I got it from said it would do 75 with the built 502's in it.

Johnny

I bet he did. Built 502's won't get you 75 in a straight bottom Cig 35. That is, unless they're Merc 700's.

But I bet that big SOB rides like a Cadillac.

[42JOHNNY]

That Boat would look real cool with the right paint job by Dave or one of the guys and the Head is a good way to get an OK on the deal from the wife.

I started to redo the cabin as it had to be stripped, I enlarged the bathroom so my wife would like it better.

But with not working, it is unfair to keep pulling money out of savings and paying bills instead of getting rid of a few things that are just "sett'n".

Don't really want to sell and I was thinking about $13-15k for it, but no one has an idea what it is worth.

Johnny

[42JOHNNY]

I bet he did. Built 502's won't get you 75 in a straight bottom Cig 35. That is, unless they're Merc 700's.

But I bet that big SOB rides like a Cadillac.

Again, I do not know...
I have talked to the guy who has blown motors and he said around 85 is where it is with those.
Since I have had it the only time I went to take it out it had the motor noise.

And yes, all say they ride sweet and is a great wave crusher...


johnny

[42JOHNNY]

will tell you one thing
I bet I took a couple thousand pounds out of it, and will only put half of that back in it.
Built very heavy in the cabin..

Why they used such heavy stuff I do not know, but I am replacing with lighter/stronger stuff.
Its like material cost wasn't much of a factor in building it.


Johnny

[cosmic12]

So sorry for your delema, it sucks and the first to go are the toys. Been there done that and still climbing out. I wish you luck on the sale I really do, that being said I wouldn't start parting it out all that is going to do is make it harder to sell and what do you do with the left overs? Sell the hardware and all you have is a worthless hull that will be very had to dispose of, sell the trailer? then what?
That is a tough one, very cool old boat for sure but in this market its worth only what someone who has the cash in hand is willing to spend for it, I dought a bank would give anything at all on it. Again good luck, I hope a job comes your way soon.

[Scarab KV]

Yea, I was looking into bolsters..
others that I have talked to say it does 65 with the 440 from factory and 80+ with bigger motors and 4 blades.
The guy I got it from said it would do 75 with the built 502's in it.
But I bought it and took it out and a motor was bad.


Johnny

More like 60. 502's built up to 600's in my KV will flirt with 80

[Chris]

The challenge with this boat is that when you put pen to paper, you start to see that for what it's going to cost to put it together, you can buy a fairly decent boat that's already running. I've looked at a few bare hulls in the last year that if I'd have gotten them for free, they wouldn't have been worth putting an interior and driveline in.

Take the sum of your parts. A set of decent TRS drives- $4500 to $5K. BW 72c's- a grand for the pair. Good engine- $2k. Bad one $500. If the exhaust isn't rotten- $1500. Semi- rehabbed trailer- $3K. You're at $12.5 to $13k less landfill costs if you had to dump the hull. So your number plays.

That it's in California hurts it. Not the biggest offshore market. Pretty expensive to get it to where most of the potential buyers are located.

[42JOHNNY]

The challenge with this boat is that when you put pen to paper, you start to see that for what it's going to cost to put it together, you can buy a fairly decent boat that's already running. I've looked at a few bare hulls in the last year that if I'd have gotten them for free, they wouldn't have been worth putting an interior and driveline in.

Take the sum of your parts. A set of decent TRS drives- $4500 to $5K. BW 72c's- a grand for the pair. Good engine- $2k. Bad one $500. If the exhaust isn't rotten- $1500. Semi- rehabbed trailer- $3K. You're at $12.5 to $13k less landfill costs if you had to dump the hull. So your number plays.

That it's in California hurts it. Not the biggest offshore market. Pretty expensive to get it to where most of the potential buyers are located.

Yea, but if you had a couple of BBC's setting around and put them in this hull, you could be on the water with a 42' boat for under 20k.
How many 42' boats do you see for this price?
Now even if you bought a couple crate motors installed them yourself, you could still be at a good price..


Johnny

[42JOHNNY]

I still have not totaly decided to sell it, I have a couple of people interested,
that is why I posted, do I sell? (and for how much).
Or wait till my life gets better and put the motors I have in it and run it, I can finish the cabin as I have the funds.

What can I pick up for the amount I sell it for down the road?
will I be ahead keeping or selling???


Johnny

[Ratickle]

I think it's worth in the 15 range. The Hawks and Eagles had similar bottoms. The size and weight were much different though. My guess, with enhanced 502's, it's a 65 to 67 mph boat. My 39 Scorpion, which has the same bottom as the the Hawk, runs mid-70's with 630hp 540's. It would run low 60's with the 440's.

The Eagle design as a performance cruiser was really sweet. People don't realize how big they are until they climb into the cabin.

[Scarab KV]

I would sit on it and finish what you started if you can. What ever you get for it is only gonna get you an equivalent boat down the road.

[42JOHNNY]

I would sit on it and finish what you started if you can. What ever you get for it is only gonna get you an equivalent boat down the road.

Yea, that is what I am thinking,
Some are interested in it since I have posted before I was not working and thinking of selling it. It is not a burden as storage is 85 bucks a month.
it is one of those things that are sitting right now,
I also have a bunch of bamboo fly rods I restore that are worth $$$ and they are just collecting dust.
As well of a half dozen other hobbies I have, all I could sell, but what about replacing if I want to get back into it???
I have never been a fan of selling, but sometimes it is best to move on and find something with less work or more for my money down the road.
But I do know it will be tough to find a bigger cabin..

Johnny

[Ratickle]

But I do know it will be tough to find a bigger cabin..

Johnny

Black Thunder is the best option out there.....

[fund razor]

Sounds like it is worth more to you than a stranger at this point. I hope that you are able to keep it if that is what you want.

[42JOHNNY]

Sounds like it is worth more to you than a stranger at this point. I hope that you are able to keep it if that is what you want.

Yea, its a toss up

One hand I want to keep it and on the other... well its just another hobby.
I have 2 other boats, both small jet boats.

Problem is, if I ever want this type a boat again, I bet it will cost me more then 15k unless times are real bad...

And with the cabin stripped, I can make it the way "I" want it.
I mean most people change motors, some change paint, but how many strip and change the layout of a cabin. Most run what they bought, Once this cabin was stripped, I could not believe the room and that there was so much waisted space.

so, unless someone makes me a offer I can't refuse(which I dought in this economy)
I won't part it out, so we will see what happens.

But one question is " whats the fast'ess non stepped out there?
Now that everyone said these boats are real slow...



Johnny