Class 6 Rules Discussion

[sbracing]

Before the OPA rules meeting, Feb. 20, do any Class 6 teams have any input
on any rule changes or tweaks in our class. Let's bring them up now.

[Fast Shafts]

Good idea! I have a couple minor suggestions to keep it affordable:
1) Stock Bravo I
2) Must run on 93 octane or lower
3) Bravo or Mirage props
4) No setback boxes

Not a rule change but how about a discussion about tow package vs. paying back 3 places.

[Bilgerat]

Define Stock Bravo? Are we just suggesting no Konrad, or B-Max, or Imco, or are you thinking a std. lower unit profile?

By the way started in on our project the other day, but snow has thrown a wrench in the works.
Our drive is basically a stock XR.
Please keep me inline if there are any Class 6 specific Conference calls or anything.

[Fast Shafts]

Bilge,
I'm not against Konrads or XR's. Maybe I shouldn't have said stock Bravo I? I just think its a matter of time before someone shows up with a #6 if this isn't addressed. When someone does show up with a #6, it would keep most of the class 6 boats on their trailers. Just throwing this idea out there to keep class 6 affordable. Continue discussion....

[sbracing]

Batboats run Volvo drives.

Is there anyone now who would be effected by a pump fuel rule?

What will a prop rule accomplish?

[Fast Shafts]

I'm not against other drives, but when someone shows up with a $25,000 #6 what do we do? Just trying to keep class 6 affordable, by putting parameters on equipment.
The prop rule would also keep class 6 affordable. It keeps "one-off" expensive props out of the equation.
The pump fuel rule would also keep class 6 more affordable. This would prevent high compression engines from running expensive fuel.

[xlr8by]

The prop rule would make a #6 impossible to run due to prop selection.

[Wahoo 214]

Try to keep it really simple. What if you said something like 1.3 & 1.5 ratios and only two props for each ratio.

That's kind of like our SV class. We only need two props 30 and 31s.

[ricochet myk]

Why does it matter what you have for props or drives ? If you have a 550 H.P. limit and a breakout speed limit, that should just about say it all. I would be embarassed to show up with a $25,000 #6 with a 550 H.P. and a 70 MPH limit, but if your the type to go squirrel hunting with a .50 cal I can see why there would be a rule against it. Why isnt it the discretion of each team what is affordable, as long as speed and H.P. is adhered to ?Whats next $ limit on motors because someone will show up with fancy valve covers ? My $.02 Im still looking for a class. Thanks Mike

[phragle]

possible drive solution... nxt, #6 , trs have seperate transmissions... the bravo, bravo varients and volvo (I belive) the shifting is in the drive.. so simple rule..no seperate trannies... Not that I have any say in your class, just what I think is a simple solution..

[sbracing]

Why does it matter what you have for props or drives ? If you have a 550 H.P. limit and a breakout speed limit, that should just about say it all. I would be embarassed to show up with a $25,000 #6 with a 550 H.P. and a 70 MPH limit, but if your the type to go squirrel hunting with a .50 cal I can see why there would be a rule against it. Why isnt it the discretion of each team what is affordable, as long as speed and H.P. is adhered to ?Whats next $ limit on motors because someone will show up with fancy valve covers ? My $.02 Im still looking for a class. Thanks Mike

As it stands, the limit is not 550 HP. Smitty's comment was OPA would make a boat by boat decision on the HP to keep everyone even. I would not build a 550 HP motor before talking to Smitty.

[Fast Shafts]

The suggestions I brought up for discussion are to keep class 6 as affordable as possible. By keeping this affordable, it opens the door for more boats to give racing a try. Imagine how many Superboats, Bajas, Panteras, Velocitys etc. are out there in a stock configuration-all being able to fit into this class.
If one wants to do any modifications, class 5 is only 5 mph faster.
Some good points were/have been brought up.
How about tow money instead of prize money? Your thoughts? Discussion continues....

[sbracing]

The suggestions I brought up for discussion are to keep class 6 as affordable as possible. By keeping this affordable, it opens the door for more boats to give racing a try. Imagine how many Superboats, Bajas, Panteras, Velocitys etc. are out there in a stock configuration-all being able to fit into this class.
If one wants to do any modifications, class 5 is only 5 mph faster.
Some good points were/have been brought up.
How about tow money instead of prize money? Your thoughts? Discussion continues....

I personally think that "no entry fee" is the tow money. I am not opposed to
paying further back into the field, however.

The keys to keeping class 6 successful are affordability and fairness. We need to keep costs for the teams down, when possible,
as well as making it fair for all. Unfortunately, not every boat is going to be competitive, so we need to be careful about shifting rules to make this boat or that boat more competitive.

[Bilgerat]

Are there boats that could fit into six, that almost require a 5 blade prop to do it, or want one to accelerate? I think i like a prop rule? what are the pros and cons to this? Educate me.?

[Tyler Crockett]

[QUOTE=sbracing;430051]Batboats run Volvo drives.

Is there anyone now who would be effected by a pump fuel rule?



Yes ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fast Shafts]

Bilge,
The reason I'd like to see props limited are cost. A used Bravo prop sells for 3-500.00 a used Hering starts at $2,500.
Bob

[Tyler Crockett]

I think we need to break Class 6 into separate parts.

Class 6 M for modified engines
Class 6 AS for almost stock.
Class 6 S for all stock
Class 6 SB for the smallblock boats
Class 6 HNW for the boats that Have Never Won
There were 5 boats in the class at most races last year this way everyone wins.

[THEJOKER]

Leave Tyler alone...he already threw a girl and a small block in the boat to give the other competitors a chance! HAHA

[Ratickle]

I think we need to break Class 6 into separate parts.

Class 6 M for modified engines
Class 6 AS for almost stock.
Class 6 S for all stock
Class 6 SB for the smallblock boats
Class 6 HNW for the boats that Have Never Won
There were 5 boats in the class at most races last year this way everyone wins.

Can we call that the Class 6 Super Vee Unlimited rule?????


Class 6 rules are just fine. As is Class 5, 4, etc.

The only thing I waould like to see, is all orgs adopting the exact same GPS class rules. Then the expectations and boat improvements would always be towards an identical outcome.

[Ratickle]

Leave Tyler alone...he already threw a girl and a small block in the boat to give the other competitors a chance! HAHA

We had a smallblock here.....