Class 6 Rules Discussion

[THEJOKER]

We had a smallblock here.....

Those look like wings and you don't have no girl!

[Tyler Crockett]

Rat if you look close you can just make you out under my spray.

[DrGaryDC]

Just keep it simple. Max cubic inches, speed, and no power adders.

[ricochet myk]

I second that ! as long as max cubes isnt 350 (im being sarcastic). The keep it simple philosophy sounds like a good idea. Mike

[sbracing]

Bilge,
The reason I'd like to see props limited are cost. A used Bravo prop sells for 3-500.00 a used Hering starts at $2,500.
Bob

What is to keep someone from getting a Bravo and having it labbed or tweaked? How would this be enforced?

I don't think we need a drive rule. The expense of a #6, if you could even install it on a 26' boat, outweighs the any benefit.

I also don't think we need a prop rule.

The pump fuel requirement is an interesting idea.

I'm concerned how OPA is going to enforce the horsepower rule. Which boat will be the baseline? If Bilgerat and I have a similiar hull, but he has 75 more
HP, do I need to catch up or does he need to tune down?

Anyone else have any constructive input?

[ricochet myk]

Would a horsepower to weight ratio make any sense ? or possibly a hull efficiency ratio to horspower ?

[ricochet myk]

Both Glenn and myself really want to run class 6, it just makes sense with a 24 pantera, but the pantera hull is nowhere as efficient as say a velocity or a stepped or vented hull, plus the weight is considerably different, so the pantera would suck with an equal h.p., On the other hand I can understand someone trying to run a stock boat would be frustrated seeing a monster h.p. motor . The h.p. to weight or hull efficiency to weight kind of makes sense. My $.02 thanks Mike

[Fast Shafts]

or we could leave well enough alone and base everything on the GPS.

[ricochet myk]

Fast Shafts, You do that and were in, end of discussion !!! mike

[Fast Shafts]

Rico,
Sooner or later, someone will show up with a blower and a #6. "Stepping down" has always been a problem in Offshore Racing. Back in the late 1970's guys started running 35' Cigarettes in Modified when they were really an Open class raceboat. Different times, but the same will happen unless parameters are placed.
Bob

[sbracing]

or we could leave well enough alone and base everything on the GPS.

By leaving well enough alone do you mean we keep the 500 HP rule??

[sbracing]

Rico,
Sooner or later, someone will show up with a blower and a #6. "Stepping down" has always been a problem in Offshore Racing. Back in the late 1970's guys started running 35' Cigarettes in Modified when they were really an Open class raceboat. Different times, but the same will happen unless parameters are placed.
Bob

The OPA rulebook does state that OPA will put a boat in the class it feels the boat belongs. I trust the OPA enough that your example would never happen.

I would think, also, that a horsepower limit of some sort would preclude it as well.

[sbracing]

Both Glenn and myself really want to run class 6, it just makes sense with a 24 pantera, but the pantera hull is nowhere as efficient as say a velocity or a stepped or vented hull, plus the weight is considerably different, so the pantera would suck with an equal h.p., On the other hand I can understand someone trying to run a stock boat would be frustrated seeing a monster h.p. motor . The h.p. to weight or hull efficiency to weight kind of makes sense. My $.02 thanks Mike

Smitty has said, in a previous post, exactly the issue you are presenting. The
trick now is figuring out the fairest way to implement it.

[p-f-e]

Right now we are working on a class 6 boat.. it's going to be good.

[DrGaryDC]

Working with emotions and feelings wont work. Where does the line stop. There is talk about props, drives, etc. You can be very specific and even add no steps on the bottom for a class. Where does it end. If i was in charge, i would create simple rules

[Ratickle]

Rat if you look close you can just make you out under my spray.

Oops,

[Ratickle]

Working with emotions and feelings wont work. Where does the line stop. There is talk about props, drives, etc. You can be very specific and even add no steps on the bottom for a class. Where does it end. If i was in charge, i would create simple rules

I believe, and Pat will have to step in for this year, when I chatted with POPRA last year I was told they will drive the boat. If it is too fast, you will not be in the slower class. In SBI, I believe if you break out, you will be moved up. In OPA, it's pretty much anything goes, just don't break out, and you're fine. Class 6 is the only one they are considering the exception to I believe. That is to make sure the boats with high horsepower do not step that far. (I think)

[Fast Shafts]

Since the rule meeting is less than 30 hrs away, is there any other input? Alot of this thread focused on the drives/props, what about setback boxes or 93 octane? I feel by keeping it affordable, it encourages participation and goes along with the rulebook's characterization of class 6 being "entry level".
Bob

[2TR]

No Race Fuel
No Blower motors
No Speed masters of any number
No Pouting.

Keep It Simple.

[Fast Shafts]

2TR,
I agree! I would make an exception/grandfather AKULA since he is running a blower (I think??). The best rule you came up with is the "NO POUTING"