Steve1 Political Rants

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Alec, I can appreciate what you're saying. It's not easy to overcome all those obstacles to become the POTUS.
But, he didn't do it alone, in fact, there is likely little that he did himself.
There are teams of people that orchastrated every move to get him there, and they were supported by groups that wanted him to do certain things once he gained office. And that is what he is now doing.
Without a prepared speech (written by one of "the team") the man can barely put together a sentence, let alone hold a position in a discussion or debate.

I don't know the solution, and there are too many skeletons in my closet to ever run for office, but it's not a good direction we are under.

With that thought in mind what special interest group or TEAM that put him in office is benefiting here.
Its not the banks, its not the military groups, its not any large corporations. Anyone would have been outed by now.

Cant be doin it for his ego, everyone hates him. Aint the money for sure. Whats he work, 20 hours a day.?? Someone gets a nosebleed and its his fault.
The mess the country/world is in isnt his fault, just as it wasnt Bush's.

The cause of all this crap in one word is GREED. And its still continuing unchecked.

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His main supporter is George Soros a world class dirtbag and Hater of America.

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Here is more on this scumbag.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/...010-elections/

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With that thought in mind what special interest group or TEAM that put him in office is benefiting here.
Its not the banks, its not the military groups, its not any large corporations. Anyone would have been outed by now.

Cant be doin it for his ego, everyone hates him. Aint the money for sure. Whats he work, 20 hours a day.?? Someone gets a nosebleed and its his fault.
The mess the country/world is in isnt his fault, just as it wasnt Bush's.

The cause of all this crap in one word is GREED. And its still continuing unchecked.

No it started in earnest when the Rats took the house in 06 due to the fact the conservatives sat out the midterms and did not vote, then Pelosi and crew took over and the economy nose dived as her deranged 60’s hippy style of running things did the damage, like shutting down new Oil drilling which ran the price up to $150.00 a Barrel put everything in freefall.

Then the Rats with Franks and Dodd along with the CRA and ACORN/Zippy had the mortgage market flooded with dead wood so all it took was the price of Gasoline to start everything snowballing.

In short everything is traceable to the Democrats hate and poor management.

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No it started in earnest when the Rats took the house in 06 due to the fact the conservatives sat out the midterms and did not vote, then Pelosi and crew took over and the economy nose dived as her deranged 60’s hippy style of running things did the damage, like shutting down new Oil drilling which ran the price up to $150.00 a Barrel put everything in freefall.

Then the Rats with Franks and Dodd along with the CRA and ACORN/Zippy had the mortgage market flooded with dead wood so all it took was the price of Gasoline to start everything snowballing.

In short everything is traceable to the Democrats hate and poor management.

If you had your own oil it still would have been the same price. It wasnt the cost of producing oil that cost it to go up, it was the players in the financial sector that caused all that because they are pigs. Canada could give its population its own fuel for a quarter of what the street price is. But they dont.

And who had the largest profits in history and took the largest bonuses? The oil industry. After eating the cost ourselves for months in the confusion of those times, my trucking businesses were getting 29% fuel charges!!! But only after I ate it for months because of disbelieving customers. Ruiness.

And how does one explain how 1,000,000 people had mortgages in the USA that were illegal immigrants?? Couldnt show proof of employment and they had a bank loan ??!! Because some pig banker was allowed to give them one legally...and did. Big big bonuses.

Doesnt really matter who the combined group of culprits are, its here and its a fact. And even if one says that it was a Democrat, Obama and the current reps now have to deal with it. He didnt do it, he didnt gain from it. Its a fact of life unfortunately that it is here.

Fact is it was only a short time ago that mainstream America walked on this earth with NO credit cards on their person. Now in their back pocket they carry 6 pieces of plastic that proves they owe someone a ton of money at huge interest rates. Each household has 3 televisions 4 cell phones and 2 cars.

You also cant ever compete in this world with a country that is currently lending the USA a trillion $ that allows a 5 year old to make a dress or pair of shoes for 6.00 and sell it to you for 50.00. While they are doing that they are polluting the earth at a rate of 20 times your country.

Canada shut the lights out to play the game of conservation and playing green for a day...it amounted to saving our earth the equal amount of 3 fkn minutes of Chinas screwin up the earth.

Terrorism is supposedly a world wide problem. Where are the Chinese soldiers in the trouble zones in the east ??

Not going to get into the mess re the fighting over there. Only have to say that if man A hits you on the head, you dont go after man B.
Cant imagine how much money has been spent in Iraq. Very unfortunate.

But it doesnt matter how all this came to be. It wasnt Obama and its in everyones best interest to concentrate on making sure all this doesnt happen again and live somewhat differently so we can all compete again in a world that will never have a level playing field.

But...as recently as last week the banking industry had to be reminded that $ 2,000,000.00 bonuses was BS while people are losing businesses and homes because they cant get credit.

You arent on the winning side when personal wealth is your goal when competing with nations that dont allow that to the same extreme, especially when they have a population many times greater than yours.

Scary thought when you hear that 40% of the daily long distance calls in Canada...are going to India.


And Steve...the Rats didnt take anything in 06. They were put there by the populace. And if you cant believe they voted for a Democrat then they must have voted against a Republican. So instead of throwing rocks at the Dems the Republicans should look in the mirror and figure out what they did wrong and correct it.

And one of the mistakes they made last year was the choice of VP. And that still hasnt been fixed.

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Now that THIS president was elected the liberals call it difficult.

When GWB was elected they called it a freebie.

It would make a really interesting thread, to explore the ways and the reasons that this president was able to get elected.

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Oh, and for the record... the fact that our current president is not qualified and is actually an affirmative action candidate has NOTHING to do with the fact that Sarah Palin is charismatic and also underqualified.

Although a white woman would be next in line as far as who's "turn" it is.

Interesting lady. Not qualified.

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Now that THIS president was elected the liberals call it difficult.

When GWB was elected they called it a freebie.

It would make a really interesting thread, to explore the ways and the reasons that this president was able to get elected.

Your not a liberal as I am not, so what would you call the chances and the probabilty of being elected the President of the United States ??

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It would make a really interesting thread, to explore the ways and the reasons that this president was able to get elected.

haha- that would be a real short thread.

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Your not a liberal as I am not, so what would you call the chances and the probabilty of being elected the President of the United States ??

I think that they vary by candidate and times.

For example.... 100 years ago.... Mr. Obama would not have been elected.
However, two years ago... the same characteristics made him attractive to certain segments of the population.

I think that in general... one of the two major parties in the US need to hear you give a really good speech... and if you impress them, they will spend billions of dollars getting you elected so that you do their bidding when you get in.

We can actually figure the mathematical probability using simple combinations and permutations.
But chance?
Next time, one of two things will happen: we will either have a backlash against the democratic/liberal/big gov/tax and spend/socialist trend or we will have a second slip into an even greater dynamic of affirmative action, and a woman will be elected because "it's time."

I am betting on a groundswell of conservative backlash that will make the urban entitlement seeking voter of 2008 seem like a ripple. And those 2008 entitlement voters, having no handout or historical significance will stay in bed on election day, like they usually do.

My best friend, who is much more qualified and much blacker than Mr. Obama told many stories of the people in the hood (My friend is a special education teacher in the inner city) who actually thought that they would get a payout for electing Obama. He was almost run over by a 19 year old young woman who was so excited that Obama had been elected that she pulled her car abruptly to the curb and jumped out, exclaiming "we're gonna get paid!" My friend, being a decorated veteran of both the Air Force and the Army, with Bachelors and Masters in education, was very... very dismayed.

He however, voted for Obama. Not on the entitlement platform, but the historical significance. He realizes now that he voted for a black man, because of the historical significance and wanting to see that change in his lifetime. He regrets that vote. He rejects ObamaCare and the public option.

The silent majority of what Mr. Obama calls "bible and gun hugging" conservatives will not allow our country to fall further into the hands of the non-productive. Change will come. We are much more motivated when you remove the special social and historical significance of the last election.
Urban white and black entitlement seekers and liberal intellectual elitists white won't be coming from the same place next time.

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haha- that would be a real short thread.

Only for you. One cartoon will suffice to express your thoughts and observations. Of course, there is always cutting and pasting, which would make it a long thread too.

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haha- that would be a real short thread.

This is the man that Alec suggested yesterday wouldn't have a dialog with anyone who would call their president "zippy."

Correct. "Zippy" is not demeaning or disrespectful enough for Jay. It needs to portray the president as a stupid chimp for him to really enjoy it. But God forbid anybody calls our current president a "chimp."

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We were on the verge of an interesting conversation. Oh well.

I think that the possibility for actual intellectual discourse would improve if you put your boy back on his leash, Alec.

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I think that they vary by candidate and times.

For example.... 100 years ago.... Mr. Obama would not have been elected.
However, two years ago... the same characteristics made him attractive to certain segments of the population.

I think that in general... one of the two major parties in the US need to hear you give a really good speech... and if you impress them, they will spend billions of dollars getting you elected so that you do their bidding when you get in.

We can actually figure the mathematical probability using simple combinations and permutations.
But chance?
Next time, one of two things will happen: we will either have a backlash against the democratic/liberal/big gov/tax and spend/socialist trend or we will have a second slip into an even greater dynamic of affirmative action, and a woman will be elected because "it's time."

I am betting on a groundswell of conservative backlash that will make the urban entitlement seeking voter of 2008 seem like a ripple. And those 2008 entitlement voters, having no handout or historical significance will stay in bed on election day, like they usually do.

My best friend, who is much more qualified and much blacker than Mr. Obama told many stories of the people in the hood (My friend is a special education teacher in the inner city) who actually thought that they would get a payout for electing Obama. He was almost run over by a 19 year old young woman who was so excited that Obama had been elected that she pulled her car abruptly to the curb and jumped out, exclaiming "we're gonna get paid!" My friend, being a decorated veteran of both the Air Force and the Army, with Bachelors and Masters in education, was very... very dismayed.

He however, voted for Obama. Not on the entitlement platform, but the historical significance. He realizes now that he voted for a black man, because of the historical significance and wanting to see that change in his lifetime. He regrets that vote. He rejects ObamaCare and the public option.

The silent majority of what Mr. Obama calls "bible and gun hugging" conservatives will not allow our country to fall further into the hands of the non-productive. Change will come. We are much more motivated when you remove the special social and historical significance of the last election.
Urban white and black entitlement seekers and liberal intellectual elitists white won't be coming from the same place next time.

I agree with you. The backlash over what has happened with the economy will probably undo the current admin.

I dont really care who or what circumstances caused whats happened as long as the path to the mess is identified and the situation corrected enough so that isnt repeated. Blame is a waste of energy especially if thats what everyone spends their time on rather than repairing the country.

As far as being put into office by a group of people that would have the President do their bidding, I cant figure out who that is, there are no current beneficiaries here that are getting any return on that investment.

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As far as being put into office by a group of people that would have the President do their bidding, I cant figure out who that is, there are no current beneficiaries here that are getting any return on that investment.

The Democratic National Committee is the interested party. The crappy return on their considerable investment is a different issue. They made this president, and they will throw him under the bus when they are done.

How did we get our crappy VP? They owed him. (and wanted him to shut up)

How did we get our crappy Secretary of State? Same debt. Same circumstances.

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The best thing that could have happened to this country would have been a McCain/Palin win. I particularly loved McCain's health care plan. Most boating sites would have been limited to boating threads, and we'd all benefit from having Palin, the nation's Top Energy expert, as VP. Clinton bashing would again be in style, which was fun for eight years.

Sarah could have explained to anxious oil executives how to ramp up oil drilling and refineries during $35 to $70 oil price cycles, while I was out shopping for bigger boats with enormous tax cuts. Talk radio would be quieter, and hopefully, Levi Johnson would be silenced as well.

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By the way... same reason that the RNC allowed the Palin thing to happen. They wanted to win in the worst way, and they were willing to risk a (failed) Hail Mary pass to retain control.

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Most boating sites would have been limited to boating threads

You are in luck Steve, we have a section right up top called "On the Dock" where we have concentrated the boating content for our offshore boating friends. We keep the non-boating content down here where it can't disturb people seeking serious offshore related content.

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One cartoon will suffice to express your thoughts and observations.

For those of us who aren't prone to delusional bouts of self-important bloviation, it's a quick way to make a point.

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"For example.... 100 years ago.... Mr. Obama would not have been elected"

That would be true since a goodly portion of his support hasnt had the right to cast a ballot for that long...which is at least embarrassing.