I have a 98', 32' stepped bottom Fountain that is in pristine condition that I have been hanging on to for too long. I spent too much fortifying the gimbals, drives and structure of the boat and got sentimentally attached.....I know, mistake.
Well, I finally came to grips with it needing to find a new home where it will be enjoyed.
Here is my question; I need to put power in as I am a believer that non-powered boats are tough to sell and bring the lowest $. In today's market, boats definitely have finite and unfortunately lower values. I don't think it makes any sense to put $30,000-$60,000 of engines into a boat that I would be ungodly lucky to find a buyer at a price that supports both boat and expensive engines.
I also think one-off custom builds would require that one in a thousand buyer that would want that package. Yes It would be cheaper to install a non-warranty medium power BBC (carbed).
The boat did 70mph with the 7.4L 330 motors at the factory when I had it built. My thinking is to drop in a pair of 383 magnums with a factory Mercury Warranty. With less weight and 25 extra horses, I think the boat should be an honest 72-73mph boat.
These motors are reasonably priced and easy to install.
http://www.mercruiserparts.com/383_Magnum.htm
Now I am sure this can turn into a discussion on how you can get more power and performance with bigger and better engines. No argument there. But at what return? Remember, the purpose is to keep the package affordable to attract a buyer in the toughest market in recent history.
Well, Common sense input please, Am I cutting off my nose to spite my face going this route? Remember the circumstances.
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12-08-2009 11:44 PM32' Fever (Off to Syracuse) and 36"Gladiator; FORD powered
Cause somebody has to!
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12-08-2009 11:50 PM
I had one of those and you might want to consider big blocks. I had small blocks when I bought mine and ended up changing for big blocks.
Plus that'll put you well over the magic 80mph for those kind of rigs.
God choice on going GM!
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12-08-2009 11:51 PM
Call Innovation and ask about the Vortecs they have...
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12-08-2009 11:55 PM
Michael, tough call. Generally you shouldn't spend to sell. If you do you should time it for the spring impulse buyers. Still a tough call. Seems likely what ever you put in it is a gamble and the first real prospect would rather have had something different.
Add in the time and effort on top of the packages and what is the real gain.
I suppose I would offer it out first as is, Shop some used low hour take outs in the mean time and if you haven't shaken it by spring MAYBE repower with warranties. You can always offer it like that before you invest further in it.
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12-08-2009 11:56 PM
It's a double edged sword, now you are selling an underpowered boat.... that might effect market too "Damn it's a nice boat but small blocks..if I buy it from you, then I have to rip the motors out, have bigger ones put in and try and unload these."....
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12-09-2009 12:01 AMActually, I was thinking springtime. The boat has no power at the moment.
Exactly, But the other side is lower intial cost, lower insurance cost, lower fuel (maybe) cost. Fuel injected and a warranty.
Lets a newbie get in, enjoy with a warranty and either sell or repower later.
.32' Fever (Off to Syracuse) and 36"Gladiator; FORD powered
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12-09-2009 12:07 AM
Jim, I know your right on this but my gut tells me there just are not that many guys out there able or willing to take on a rigging project. Especially if they need financing.
I see ads where they will rig an otherwise great boat with your choice of power and they don't seem to sell very well that way
.32' Fever (Off to Syracuse) and 36"Gladiator; FORD powered
Cause somebody has to!
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12-09-2009 12:10 AM
You have a few months to shop some nice take outs. Presently time is on your side.
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12-09-2009 12:26 AMYes, One advantage I do have.
Actually, I have a friend who had been expressing strong interest, he wanted to put in take out 525efis. That would have been a great package but non-warrantied and expensive. Unfortunately for me, his plans changed.
Well, I need to call and find out then.
Do they have a website? Doing a search yielded tons of Innovation marines.
.32' Fever (Off to Syracuse) and 36"Gladiator; FORD powered
Cause somebody has to!
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12-09-2009 12:31 AM
3rd option... for sale w/o motors.. buyer provides/gets engine and you install..
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12-09-2009 12:36 AM
For sale...without power for $$$$ OR with (whatever you find a reasonable deal on) for $$$$. What year model 32 is it?
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12-09-2009 01:06 AM98' single step. HD gimbals and totally upgraded diesel bravo ones with vertical towers, treated gears and nosecones. Latham steering. Drives and gimbals have only 5 hours. Hull only a few more. Myco with SS brakes. Essentially a brand new boat, never in salt.
Only sale I know for sure for a 98' was with 400 hours on hull, engines and drives and sold for just under $50K, Not sure it included a trailer. Seemed in decent condition.
.32' Fever (Off to Syracuse) and 36"Gladiator; FORD powered
Cause somebody has to!
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12-09-2009 01:11 AM
With the way your stuff looks someone will be lucky to have that 32 as is.
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12-09-2009 01:37 AM
I think your best bang for the buck would be on a pair of low hour 496HO or 496HO Mag take outs.