Ryan,
As of today no one has spoke to JC, might be a good idea if u pass that on to someone @ OSS . We all want this to work and without communication its not going to happen.
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12-10-2009 04:15 PM
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12-10-2009 04:23 PM
I think it is improper for any third party to assume or comment on who knew
what or who contacted who about any meetings. Only the people directly involved know what's what and for any of us to say he knew or he didn't know is pure spectulation and doesn't help the process.
Let's keep our eye on the ball, folks.Rich Smith
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12-10-2009 04:33 PMI do have the facts just spoke to John and he said he hasnt spoke to anyone.... Its not meant to be a negative all I said is it might be a good time to talk.
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12-10-2009 04:52 PM
I thought Mike Mares, Billy & JC had been communicating since KW?
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12-10-2009 05:34 PM
sbr, the big 3 don,t come on here and make any formal announcments,,so the ones close can only assume ,,,i,m glad to see sbi is in print,that is a positive start,and something teams can work with,,,racers have been saying all along,,,put out a schedule,,, sbi did,,, opa has a tenitive schedule ,,it,s a start but we need dates,,,were getting close!!!
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12-10-2009 05:48 PMI'm sure OPA and SBI had their reason for not going, as Bruce said no big deal that isnt really the business at hand.
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12-10-2009 05:51 PM
Ryan, not picking a fight, by any means, as I have only heard great things about Biloxi, but SBI has had the Miami race the middle of April(always around the 15th) for as far back as I can remember. I just pulled up the OSS website and the dates for Biloxi were March 26-29 last year. I do understand that towns sometimes will dictate "this is when the race will happen, take it or leave it" and that might be the case this time as well, but just because Biloxi released that date on their website, doesnt mean that SBI stepped on those dates. Hopefully it will all work out in the long run when communication starts to take place
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12-10-2009 06:05 PM
if one of them were to make an adjustment i think it would benefit both, just my 1 cents
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12-10-2009 06:31 PM
Biloxi's race dates are dictated by the tides in that area. I believe that this allows them one weekend a month with the tides working in the water depth favor. Every year the first races vary slightly, I was not pointing blame at anyone, just to the fact that it sucks that this is happening already!
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12-10-2009 07:42 PM
I would think a couple boats would do both if they were different weekends......
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12-10-2009 07:55 PM
No dog in this fight, but it seems that unification comes after:
- Biloxi's tide tables
- JC's Miami race date (and his 12 boats)
- OPA's lack of participation (perhaps?)
- Endless bickering and finger pointing
With these priorities, the sport's participants deserve what they get.
I realise that the APBA/UIM won't assure a turkey in every pot, nor a trophy in every race, but it was the biggest and best sanctioning body in the history of the sport, offers the ability to leverage other divisions for economies of scale and cross marketing and is the only sanctioning body with more than a few years (without bankruptcy(s) and a string of broken promises) of existence and experience.
My work is done here.
Now back to your regularly scheduled tit for tat confusion.
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12-10-2009 08:06 PMNo bickering on my part, but there is always t for t confusion
Just looking at the SBI schedule
Miami........20th year.....(12 boats plus the "couple"this year if someone changes MAYBE )
Sarasota....26th year
NYC...........20th year
KEY WEST...30 YEARS
That looks like a standard/tradition for some cities. We've heard before that SBI with NYC and OPA with Point Pleasant isn't good to race on the same day.
It still happens in both cities and life goes on.
I think that horse should be dead by now
HAPPY HOLIDAYS
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12-10-2009 08:54 PM
t2x i,m not the sharpest knife in the draw,, but i think that your statement is a fairly easy accomplishment,,,, when you only" lease" your title out and assume NO responsiblty for the events,,,when things were good it,s all APBA when the current economics take their toll,,now it,s SOMEONE ELSES DOING...looks like a stacked deck to me. i,m sure you know the deal,, when things are good it,s the OWNERS DOING,,,,when things are bad it,s the employees,,no argument here just my thoughts...
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12-11-2009 10:23 AM
Rich, we are gonna try to get everybody working together as per my conversation with Smitty and Louie. I'll be meeting with Smitty tomorrow at his shop. Gotta go, sending one of my trucks to do a little moving job at my house in Toms River. My wifes a pain.
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12-11-2009 12:50 PM
My goodness...........Yes I knew there was a meeting. I was told it would be the second week in December, because neither Tom Abrams or myself, were available the first week. The Friday before the meeting Rick Felson called to ask if I was going. I had no idea it was moved a week earlier, and could not go on one days notice. I am sure there will be many more meetings in the future. I have spoken to Mark on many occaisions, and am sure there will be much more disscussed. One little thing like the APBA pops up, and you guys are chewing each other apart. By the way, APBA is only at this point trying to develope a rule book. Doesn't matter ours is not open for change.
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12-11-2009 03:08 PM
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