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    Quote Originally Posted by Dollabill View Post
    I don't care what they use. Cigarette = #1. Game over. (V class of course).

    Here we go
    There's really no other way to look at it, Cigarette is "The Top of the Food Chain" as far as the history of offshore boats is perceived to all boaters and non-boaters. Yes, the Apache is the holy grail of the lot, and Fountains are the fastest....but there is no denying the simple fact that (as GLH says), no one has ever come up to me and said "is that one of those ******* boats". They always say Cigarette.

    Just my opinion, of course
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    Why was all the good content removed from this post???
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool View Post
    There's really no other way to look at it, Cigarette is "The Top of the Food Chain" as far as the history of offshore boats is perceived to all boaters and non-boaters. Yes, the Apache is the holy grail of the lot, and Fountains are the fastest....but there is no denying the simple fact that (as GLH says), no one has ever come up to me and said "is that one of those ******* boats". They always say Cigarette.

    Just my opinion, of course
    There you go,using that Apache word
    Actually, the Apache was originally a Cigarette also(extended Flat Deck). Cig rocks !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMF View Post
    Why was all the good content removed from this post???
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMF View Post
    Why was all the good content removed from this post???
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    Yea!


    If either of you can't figure out why the posts were deleted, feel free to call me @ 202-224-5499 and I would be more than happy to explain to you (A.) Why they were deleted and (B.) What it is as a website that we are trying to accomplish here.

    This website was created and we've worked our azzes off in the last year to try to make it the best offshore boating forum.....and we're just beginning. Stayed tuned, there's going to be some changes.
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    The first line of our Forum Rules is "Be Polite, be respectful." Those posts were neither of those two things.

    Additionally, we felt that the trading of personal insults added little value to a discussion regarding the material choice, construction or manufacturing methods employed by Cigarette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchool View Post
    If either of you can't figure out why the posts were deleted, feel free to call me @ 202-224-5499 and I would be more than happy to explain to you (A.) Why they were deleted and (B.) What it is as a website that we are trying to accomplish here.

    This website was created and we've worked our azzes off in the last year to try to make it the best offshore boating forum.....and we're just beginning. Stayed tuned, there's going to be some changes.
    No reason to call, but thanks! I just think some people are treated differently on this site and it is not right! I just feel that certian members always have something negative to say. If it is about Cigarette, or any other topic that they dont have or cant afford. Then it is let go by the admins, but as soon as someone is called out thier post it gets removed!! This is just my thoughts!!
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    No reason to call, but thanks! I just think some people are treated differently on this site and it is not right! I just feel that certian members always have something negative to say. If it is about Cigarette, or any other topic that they dont have or cant afford. Then it is let go by the admins, but as soon as someone is called out thier post it gets removed!! This is just my thoughts!!
    I'm intolerant of the negativity. We've gotten this far without it and we'll continue to do so.

    We also have a fantastic moderating staff that manages to very professionally handle things around here- to the point that the single most common comment (compliment) I received in Key West was how cleanly the board is run and how little nonsense there is. So I suppose we have no need whatsoever for any independent help "calling people out". And in fact, never has blunt, direct confrontation resulted in anything other than an eruption. Now we have moderators to keep the calm, why would we need anything else?

    Lastly, show me one instance where ANYONE hasn't been treated fairly or respectfully. There are no favorites. Period. All rules apply to everyone.
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    One instance is I didn't win the KW trip...
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    When I said there were no favorites, I misspoke. Mark is absolutely our favorite inveterate trashcan-hugging drunkard and dolphin fondler.
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    i disagree, Outerlimits has quite a name for itself as an independent go fast builder. Cig just cant keep up. Why did Neil H leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toasty View Post
    i disagree, Outerlimits has quite a name for itself as an independent go fast builder. Cig just cant keep up. Why did Neil H leave?
    Good O'le Skippy!! And yes Outerlimits is at the top!
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    Why all the Cigarette Haters!!!! Nobody compared Outterlimits to Cigarette did they?? They both make first class boats!!
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    When did Hernandez leave? and where did he go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WMF View Post
    Why all the Cigarette Haters!!!! Nobody compared Outterlimits to Cigarette did they?? They both make first class boats!!
    i'm not a Cig hater, almost bought one earlier this year but just a thought..
    Maybe since Reggie commited suicide, Beak bashing is nolonger as fun as it once was and people have moved on.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by phragle View Post
    i'm not a Cig hater, almost bought one earlier this year but just a thought..
    Maybe since Reggie commited suicide, Beak bashing is nolonger as fun as it once was and people have moved on.....
    You might be right!!!!
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    Lucky for me, my boat was built by Neill Hernandez. We disucssed materials at length. They still use some wood products because it work well and have a 40 year track history.

    They did go wood free in the transom years ago. That was the only area they saw wood decay .

    Yes they vacuum bag BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashbrain View Post
    When did Hernandez leave? and where did he go?
    Not anywhere in the boat business. Neil was Cigarette!
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    I have to say I really enjoyed the video.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remembered reading that Neil had returned to Cig.
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