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    What can I just bolt on to a Bravo XR. ITS set up? in lieu of the Bravos?

    Imco? Merc. No 3 or 4? speedmasters?

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    IMCO SCX

    X-Power

    B-Max

    others?

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    Peter, I am real happy with the SCX so far. Not cheap but less than 3 XR's a season
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    IMCO SCX has been out for over a year with good results. You will need to change your helmet also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondPerformance View Post
    You will need to change your helmet also.
    Good luck getting the 4 little .250" bolts off the gimbal ring that hold the hinge pin cover on without them breaking off in your hand like little cardboard sticks.

    Merc doesn't Loctite those or Grease them and the stainless fuses to the aluminum very quickly.

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    Try alittle heat on the bolts, heat the alum. not the bolt, then back them out easy. I have found Loctite on the bolts that I have removed in the past. When installing; I always apply a tiny amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MERPerformance View Post
    Try alittle heat on the bolts, heat the alum. not the bolt, then back them out easy. I have found Loctite on the bolts that I have removed in the past. When installing; I always apply a tiny amount.
    I did heat heat it up. Usually you can see a little loctite leak out when you do, Nothing here.

    I was also disappointed how easy the bolts broke. 3 inch long box end, in my fingers and snap! they broke. Bolt # 5 in the picture BTW

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    What about the Imco SCT? Is it basically a SCX but with external transmission?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Speed View Post
    What about the Imco SCT? Is it basically a SCX but with external transmission?
    According to Imco, the SCX is as strong as the SCT and in some testing, actually gave better results. No need to rerig the transom. Change the helmut, bolt on the drive and go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airpacker View Post
    According to Imco, the SCX is as strong as the SCT and in some testing, actually gave better results. No need to rerig the transom. Change the helmut, bolt on the drive and go.
    So a SCT is not a direct replacement for an XR but with a transmission.
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    Correct. The SCT does not shift. It uses a transmission in the extension box
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    Peter, if you do change,,, just bolt on the IMCO SCX and be done with it ,,,it,s 50% bigger gears and a lot stronger than the xr,s,,,, bolt on go have fun,,
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    this looks the best... don't know how they run though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airpacker View Post
    Correct. The SCT does not shift. It uses a transmission in the extension box
    Would the upper bolt up to an XR extension box. Does the trans have to be in the box or can it be on the engine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airpacker View Post
    Correct. The SCT does not shift. It uses a transmission in the extension box
    Can it be fitted into my existing IMCO extension box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean H View Post
    this looks the best... don't know how they run though.
    Unfortunately, $35K each....plus options. Very cool though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Speed View Post
    Would the upper bolt up to an XR extension box. Does the trans have to be in the box or can it be on the engine?
    Yes, it the SCT ( transmission required) uses the same over size helmut that the SCX ( shiftable) uses so that part would need to be swapped to mount either drive to the XR gimbel ring. I imagine the trans could be anywhere.

    I have been pounding my SCX with a 900 hp blower motor and so far, so good.
    It shifts like it has a trans. By that I mean its smooth as silk which surprised me.

    I wanted to go the SCX route because I did not want the extra weight of a transmission nor the wwwwork involved in movint the engine forward ( Blower crank pulley clears bulkhead by 3/8" ) to accom a tranny in the boat. I didn't want to run an extension box on my daytona either because they seem work better with the drive on the transom.
    Before buying the drive, I looked at B max and even thought about an Arneson but a single prop surface drive on a single cat would have been a handful no doubt.
    I used to run a black hawk and that, although fast was twitchy at speed.
    With e 400 extra hp I aded to the boat, the BH would have poofed real quick so I ended up with the SCX upper mated to a shortie SC lower.

    My Daytona loved Merc upper gear sets. About every 15 to 20 hrs it ate them.
    Never had lower issues so I think I am safe with the leaner lower unit. The big SCX lower may have had some high speed handling issues ( stern lift ) over 100 mph so I chose the SCX / SC hybrid version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattBMiller View Post
    Can it be fitted into my existing IMCO extension box?
    If you mean the transmission, I have no idea whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean H View Post
    this looks the best... don't know how they run though.
    I've heard a lot of good stuff about the X Power drives. They're spendy, but they don't break (from what I hear). They will also help you find other weak points in your drivetrain...


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