Apache logo

[Geronimo36]

thanks for the answer,,, at least the answer wasn,t,,, some guy standing alone in a field ,,looking at the ground..lololo one thing about the internet if you dont know the real answer, you can make some sh1t up,,that guy amazies me,?

Yeah, it's amazing how there's "no room for truth on the internet."

The original question was where did the name of the company come from...
The answer..and oar company.

Jack, Your information is incorrect......

When Bobby was building the Squadron for Kilpatrick they needed to name the boat. Kilpatrick was half Irish, half Indian and was also a prized fighter. Bobby came up with two names; "Apache" and "Raging Bull"... Apache was choosen because Bobby thought the Apaches (Geronimo) were fierce fighters and a few other reasons. So they settled on Apache and went racing...

Shortly afterwards Bobby started Apache, taking his idea from the Kilpatrick Squadron...

Then Bobby came up with the "nickel" logo. He had the $5 coin in his desk and thought it would be a cool design for a boat company so he modified the coin, Gail Paik did the lettering etc. Matter of fact, the first "Nickels" said Apache Boats. Only a few of those logo's were ever made. Apache Powerboats in the logo was later....

Then Jack Kramer worked with Bobby to get it trademarked. When they submitted the logo to the TM Office it was rejected at first because they found out there was a wooden oar company that was using a similarly designed logo. Bobby's design was similar to the oar company but it was not taken from it.

A letter was sent to oar company asking if they could have permission to use Bobby's logo for the company. The oar company said; "We make wooden oars not powerboats so go ahead!"

The TM was approved and the rest is history.

Hopefully I captured all the details. Bobby tells the story much better than I can, obvisouly because he was there and did it!!!

[thedonz]

any pic of Kilpatrick Squadron ?

Mike

[Geronimo36]

Here's one!

[thedonz]

So this one was first then blue Warpath ? correct.....was it a 41 or a 38 squadron/cig

Mike

[Geronimo36]

So this one was first then blue Warpath ? correct.....was it a 41 or a 38 squadron/cig

Mike

Depends how you're looking at it but it was "named" Apache but it wasn't an Apache, Warpath was the first "41'" Apache.

Squadron was 39'.

[thedonz]

thanks..that's what i thought

Mike

[cashbrain]

[QUOTE=Geronimo36;358939]Yeah, it's amazing how there's "no room for truth on the internet."



Jack, Your information is incorrect......



A letter was sent to oar company asking if they could have permission to use Bobby's logo for the company. The oar company said; "We make wooden oars not powerboats so go ahead!"

Like I said...and Oar company..I have those docs too...

[Thunderman]

Okay let me see if I got this straight. Bobby S. thought it would be cool to use the logo of an oar and wooden nickel company for his boats. He asked Jack kramer for permission, and gave all the documents to Cashbrain. End of story.

[Chris]

A couple more of the Squadron.

Bobby and Jerry below.

[cashbrain]

Okay let me see if I got this straight. Bobby S. thought it would be cool to use the logo of an oar and wooden nickel company for his boats. He asked Jack kramer for permission, and gave all the documents to Cashbrain. End of story.

LOL....NAW. I had alot of the docs when Bobby signed the rights over to me..

[cashbrain]

A couple more of the Squadron.

Bobby and Jerry below.

Last I heard,Jerry was selling cars in South Florida

[Geronimo36]

Like I said...and Oar company..I have those docs too...[/COLOR]

Again Jack, you're wrong.... The NAME or the LOGO didn't come from an Oar company. Please don't twist what I wrote.... Read the fine print... 1. Bobby comes up with Name. 2.Bobby designs logo. 3. Logo was rejected when they went for the patent because it's "similar". 4. Oar company say's it's ok for him to use his logo not theirs....

The logo didn't come from the Oar Company as you say..... Documents you have should show a release from the oar company but they didn't "get" logo or the name from the oar company.

Okay let me see if I got this straight. Bobby S. thought it would be cool to use the logo of an oar and wooden nickel company for his boats. He asked Jack kramer for permission, and gave all the documents to Cashbrain. End of story.

Classic!

[cashbrain]

Word Mark APACHE
Goods and Services IC 012. US 019. G & S: Boats. FIRST USE: 19600211. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19600323
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Serial Number 72094271
Filing Date April 4, 1960
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0706228
Registration Date October 25, 1960
Owner (REGISTRANT) Delhi Manufacturing Corp. CORPORATION LOUISIANA ILLINOIS AVE. Delhi LOUISIANA
(LAST LISTED OWNER) MARK MCMANUS, INC. CORPORATION BY ASSIGNMENT, BY ASSIGNMENT, BY ASSIGNMENT FLORIDA 15821 CHIEF COURT FORT MEYERS FLORIDA 33912

Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record ALAN E.J. BRANIGAN
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20010605.
Renewal 2ND RENEWAL 20010605
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

[Geronimo36]

So now we're talking about Word marks???

I'll said it for the last time, if you don't believe me then I suggest calling Bobby directly. Bobby didn't come up with the name from anywhere else other than Bobby coming up with the idea because Kilpatrick was half Irish, half indian and a prized fighter..... Bobby designed his logo from an idea he got from the $5 coin..

What part incomprehensible?

FYI, the Apache indians were around long before any other company...

Florida Profit Corporation
APACHE RACING TEAM INC.
Filing Information
Document Number F70089
FEI/EIN Number 000000000
Date Filed 03/03/1982
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event INVOLUNTARILY DISSOLVED
Event Date Filed 11/10/1983
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
% JERRY KILPATRICK
TOLOMATO INDUSTRIAL PARK, U.S. #1 NORTH
ST AUGUSTINE FL 32084

Trademark
APACHE POWERBOATS & DESIGN OF INDIAN LOGO WITH STARS ON EITHER SIDE
Filing Information
Document Number T01049
Date Filed 04/26/1984
Expiration Date 04/26/2014
Last Event RENEWAL
Event Date Filed 11/24/2003
Event Effective Date NONE
First Used in Florida NONE
First Used Anywhere NONE
Status ACTIVE

Florida Profit Corporation
APACHE POWERBOATS, INC. Filing Information
Document Number F32467
FEI/EIN Number 592171850
Date Filed 04/28/1981
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Last Event NAME CHANGE AMENDMENT
Event Date Filed 01/11/2001
Event Effective Date NONE

Florida Profit Corporation
INSERVICE MARINE, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number 508554
FEI/EIN Number 591671848
Date Filed 06/02/1976
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event VOLUNTARY DISSOLUTION
Event Date Filed 12/29/1980
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NORTH MIAMI FL 33161
Mailing Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NORTH MIAMI FL 33161
Registered Agent Name & Address
SACCENTI, A. ROBERT
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NORTH MIAMI FL 33161

Florida Profit Corporation
RACE HEADQUARTERS, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number 687382
FEI/EIN Number 592043146
Date Filed 09/11/1980
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event INVOLUNTARILY DISSOLVED
Event Date Filed 11/21/1984
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NO. MIAMI FL 33161
Mailing Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NO. MIAMI FL 33161

[DAREDEVIL]

To stop your pi$$ing match !!!!!!!! LOL


I think the name fits and sounds cool !!!!!
What else ???




NEXT !!!!!!!

[Geronimo36]

To stop your pi$$ing match !!!!!!!! LOL


I think the name fits and sounds cool !!!!!
What else ???




NEXT !!!!!!!

Agreed, definitely beat to death, time to move on!

[ChiefApache]

Agreed, definitely beat to death, time to move on!

It wouldn't be a true Apahce thread unless there was controversary involved Frank.

[Geronimo36]

Ain't that the truth!

Hey, enjoy those beautiful KW waters and fly high on the Chief!!! You have no idea how jealous I am..in a good way of course!

[cashbrain]

So now we're talking about Word marks???

I'll said it for the last time, if you don't believe me then I suggest calling Bobby directly. Bobby didn't come up with the name from anywhere else other than Bobby coming up with the idea because Kilpatrick was half Irish, half indian and a prized fighter..... Bobby designed his logo from an idea he got from the $5 coin..

What part incomprehensible?

FYI, the Apache indians were around long before any other company...

Florida Profit Corporation
APACHE RACING TEAM INC.
Filing Information
Document Number F70089
FEI/EIN Number 000000000
Date Filed 03/03/1982
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event INVOLUNTARILY DISSOLVED
Event Date Filed 11/10/1983
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
% JERRY KILPATRICK
TOLOMATO INDUSTRIAL PARK, U.S. #1 NORTH
ST AUGUSTINE FL 32084

Trademark
APACHE POWERBOATS & DESIGN OF INDIAN LOGO WITH STARS ON EITHER SIDE
Filing Information
Document Number T01049
Date Filed 04/26/1984
Expiration Date 04/26/2014
Last Event RENEWAL
Event Date Filed 11/24/2003
Event Effective Date NONE
First Used in Florida NONE
First Used Anywhere NONE
Status ACTIVE

Florida Profit Corporation
APACHE POWERBOATS, INC. Filing Information
Document Number F32467
FEI/EIN Number 592171850
Date Filed 04/28/1981
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Last Event NAME CHANGE AMENDMENT
Event Date Filed 01/11/2001
Event Effective Date NONE

Florida Profit Corporation
INSERVICE MARINE, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number 508554
FEI/EIN Number 591671848
Date Filed 06/02/1976
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event VOLUNTARY DISSOLUTION
Event Date Filed 12/29/1980
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NORTH MIAMI FL 33161
Mailing Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NORTH MIAMI FL 33161
Registered Agent Name & Address
SACCENTI, A. ROBERT
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NORTH MIAMI FL 33161

Florida Profit Corporation
RACE HEADQUARTERS, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number 687382
FEI/EIN Number 592043146
Date Filed 09/11/1980
State FL
Status INACTIVE
Last Event INVOLUNTARILY DISSOLVED
Event Date Filed 11/21/1984
Event Effective Date NONE

Principal Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NO. MIAMI FL 33161
Mailing Address
13333 N.E. 17TH AVENUE
NO. MIAMI FL 33161

I know the story...and have talked to Bobby many,many times.Frank...ur fightin with yourself. No challenges here...

C'mon Bobby..stop gettin Frank all fired up

[Chris]

The pic I posted- it's Jerry, but the wrong Jerry. Jerry K had light brown, curly hair. Kinda looked like Jerry Reed. That's Jerry Jacoby in the pic with Bobby- in AJAC Hawk. Probably around '82.

Bobby called me earlier. I asked. He says he still has the release from the oar company. Frank is correct.