To all P-class racers in KW !!!!!!!

[Ratickle]

Paul,,,we did for 2009 and NOBODY SHOWED UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!????????

Sorry, SIMMONS did !!!!!

We had 5 boats ,,dialed in to our old rules 82 and changed it to 85 ,,for 1 boat ??????

I'm sure Simmons would have run 82. To me that's not the big deal. The big deal to me is the ambiguous enforcement of the rules about Best Case Scenario Top Speed vs run it propped to a top speed.

[Ratickle]

Hey keyboard racer,,,,stop your freakin name calling !!!!!!!

I agree Dave. At least he showed with a boat and tried. No way you'll ever get me to knock that.

Now knock Scott??????

[skaterdave]

Good thoughts Dave, personally I'm fine at 115 and its really the sweet spot for this heavy 'ol boat although running 117 in sbi was fine to so at that point i guess I'm just splitting hairs. Even still I'm fine at 115, we blow up enough sh!t at that speed

In Patchogue they did run SCL with us which was great. Teague broke out but we did get around Motley. For the most part we've been working toward less classes and its only when a boat clearly does not fit in 6-1 that we run special classes or there enough boats to have their own class.

just wondering dave if that green monster feels better at 120 or above the 115 you currently run at. last year, when i ran, shaving off that extra 2 mph was quite a bit difference for our boat. i know its only 2 mph but it seems that extra little bit made it fell alot better going down the straights and setting up for turns. come on i sure you guys got a bigger set of props ????

[Ratickle]

[QUOTE=DAREDEVIL;343055]

For the most part we've been working toward less classes

THATS THE GOAL !!!!!!!!!

I don't think less classes are needed in the P classes. If the rules are standardized for all orgs for P, more boats will show I think.

[sbracing]

I think up to
32 feet - 80 mph only single engines
36 feet - 90 mph
40 feet -110 mph

ONLY FOR THE P CLASS

what would be wrong with that ?????

now u would have more boats in each class,,,bump up the price money and get the competition everybody was looking for !!!!!!
The penalty thing is easy,,,,,if u brake out,wnd get a 1 min penalty,,,your last anyways ??? NO ???

No

[DAREDEVIL]

No

NO what ???

[Wahoo 214]

If you guys want to change P Class rules, then just join OPA. It works and ain't broken. Move on to the spec classes.

[DAREDEVIL]

If you guys want to change P Class rules, then just join OPA. It works and ain't broken. Move on to the spec classes.

OK,,then move OPA down here to FL !!!!!!!!!!!

[imco offshore]

currently i run keyboard-class. it's quite in-expensive and and i can give myself my own checkered flags ???????

honestly i think PX has hurt the sport more than anything and that the current speed of close too 200 mph are going to bite offshore in the azz sooner or later. there was a reason that they had 150 mph rule.

no-offense to the spec guys but as we've seen theres no consistancy between the orgs which makes tech even more difficult.

someone need to build a mobile dyno that can hookup at the prop shaft, then run hp to weight class and use a handicap system for those with more technologicly advance boats. for instance we all know that the new 388 skaters are faster than its older cousins like whm's 40 (hull to hull comparison) so even with equal hp the 388's are faster and the 40 should get something to help make it more competive. agian like sweetdude stated, the reality of offshore is that its club racing and need to be fun and fair. or else no one new is going to come and play. this to me is the problem with spec class racing its really for fun and those with alot of money are going to be able to keep buying new boats and spend money to be #1. this takes the fun out of it and the others leave. kinda of like the current mess

i don.t about that svl are all old a boats 8 or 9 years old and all run withen 1 mph of each other it has come down to set up a the racees

[1waterboy1]

If you guys want to change P Class rules, then just join OPA. It works and ain't broken. Move on to the spec classes.

I agree...SBI has many spec cat and vee classes with only a few boats in each:
TURBINE
SUPERBOAT UNLIMITED
SUPERBOAT 850
SUPERBOAT 750
SUPER CAT
SUPER STOCK

SUPERBOAT VEE EXTREME
SUPERBOAT VEE UNLIMITED
SUPER VEE
SUPERBOAT VEE LIMITED

How about starting here first...at least there is some growth potential with the bracket classes.

[Ratickle]

i don.t about that svl are all old a boats 8 or 9 years old and all run withen 1 mph of each other it has come down to set up a the racees

The same is true for Outboard Cat, Cat Light, and OPA Super Vee.

Those four classes have no issues when it comes to racers racing. Only the short, smooth courses make it a sprint to the first corner with the winner usually the first one around it claiming lane one.

[Ratickle]

I agree...SBI has many spec cat and vee classes with only a few boats in each:
TURBINE
SUPERBOAT UNLIMITED
SUPERBOAT 850
SUPERBOAT 750
SUPER CAT
SUPER STOCK

SUPERBOAT VEE EXTREME
SUPERBOAT VEE UNLIMITED
SUPER VEE
SUPERBOAT VEE LIMITED

How about starting here first...at least there is some growth potential with the bracket classes.

I've read all the rules and can't figure out the difference between Vee Unlimited and Vee Extreme.

[Ratickle]

No

NO what ???

I'm taking it as no you're not last with a 1 minute penalty. Currently you break out by 1 mph for 5 seconds and you're last. Even if every other boat breaks down.

[2TR]

Nothings wrong with "P" Class racing, only problem I see is racing "P" class in S.B.I.

Not trying to be rude, just an observation.

[Ratickle]

Nothings wrong with "P" Class racing, only problem I see is racing "P" class in S.B.I.

Not trying to be rude, just an observation.

Don't have a lot of choice if you live in Florida.

[skaterdave]

# 3 the class went from 8 to 10 boats down to three 3 ,

this would be my point. you guys raced @ loto in p class the day before the "nationals". to me this is where you should be until theres enough of your class to put on a good race by yourselves. this should go for the rest of the classes as well.

[2TR]

Don't have a lot of choice if you live in Florida.

Fix S.B.I.

[Ted]

Okay, I have removed the name calling and am going to resurrect this thread. Please keep to the issue at hand and stop the personal attacks. Thanks everyone for caring enough about the sport to participate in a discussion like this, but respect everyone's opinion and their effort.

[DAREDEVIL]

okay, i have removed the name calling and am going to resurrect this thread. Please keep to the issue at hand and stop the personal attacks. Thanks everyone for caring enough about the sport to participate in a discussion like this, but respect everyone's opinion and their effort.

thanks !!!!!!!

[Pete B]

While there is nothing wrong with P-class or it's racers, there needs to be a place where one climbs to a spec class. Dont mis-interpet, but this is why APBA had p-class run on Saturday and the pro series run on Sunday.