View Poll Results: Which style course is better for the sport?

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  • True offshore, leave and comeback

    4 7.84%
  • Mix, long laps mixed in with short laps near the beach

    29 56.86%
  • Short course near the beach

    18 35.29%
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN View Post
    It is 10 miles to turn one.

    Even the storm leg to the short turn would be extremely long by todays standards. That would be a great course similar to what APBA ran in '01.

    That is what we should be racing.
    At least at the Worlds as the Foreigners are used to that.
    Offshore Racing wasn´t designed to be a spectator sport, it's for people or companies with's lots of money to push the envelope of endurance technology and hopefully put a trophy on a mantle. It's man vs the elements, not like boats with like engines running in circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Stinson View Post
    So at this point it looks as if a mixed course would be the favorite of the majority vote!! So why couldn't a course like the old key west course be used?????
    Great course....we should get back to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBILEMERCMAN View Post

    I suspect nobody wants any part of that.
    I know a crazy litte short 'guy' from Trinidad that would do it.... heck, he shipped his boat within throwin' distance of South America to do it...
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    I think the mixed course would be awesome but for many of our current site it wouldn't work because of course control and Coast Guard permitting. In Harrison, St Clair, Patchogue, NY city, Cambridge, LOTO, and Cumberland there are too many pleasure boaters to have to control. So we would need new sites or hundreds of new patrol volunteers. You also need more helios and medical staff which adds to the event cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahoo 214 View Post
    You also need more medical staff which adds to the event cost.

    I'm cheap and easy (I didn't just say that out loud did i?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean H View Post
    I know a crazy litte short 'guy' from Trinidad that would do it.... heck, he shipped his boat within throwin' distance of South America to do it...
    Lets hope the short guy gets it ready for KW,,,any news on that ??

    How is it coming Sean ?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1waterboy1 View Post
    Great course....we should get back to that.
    Yep, get a first aid kit, sea anchor, life raft and epirb like the old days and go at it.
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    Ok,,,i have to buy a troling motor now !! LOL
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    Who has the current race corse from KW on a chart ???
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    I think the course should be set based upon the spectator/community layout. Every site is different....

    For a scenario with a chance for a big gate income, run it out and straight back in toward the spectator area. (St Pete 1999)

    For a scenario of huge community support, run along the beach. This allows the racers to secure lodging sponsorship - we always had good luck with hotels along the race course. (Daytona 2001 - 4 rms. x 4 nts. x $225 = $3,600 savings)

    For the teams that don't participate in every race, make them run a "figure 8" course for the worlds......
    I'd rather be on the boat with a drink on the rocks, than in the drink with my boat on the rocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAREDEVIL View Post
    Lets hope the short guy gets it ready for KW,,,any news on that ??

    How is it coming Sean ?????
    It's ready, should be stateside in a few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean H View Post
    It's ready, should be stateside in a few weeks.
    Cool, good to hear.Hopefully its ok now.
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    For the teams that don't participate in every race, make them run a "figure 8" course for the worlds......[/QUOTE]

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    I'm cheap and easy (I didn't just say that out loud did i?)
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    I'm trying to figure out all of this breakout stuff. Shouldn't a boat with legal equipment be allowed to go as fast as it can? If you go to a longer offshore course, there is no need for any of this. Open water and longer courses are the great equalizers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeybandit View Post
    I'm trying to figure out all of this breakout stuff. Shouldn't a boat with legal equipment be allowed to go as fast as it can? If you go to a longer offshore course, there is no need for any of this. Open water and longer courses are the great equalizers.
    GPS racing is a good thing currently. What it allows, is someone to race a pleasure boat against others where the boats are no way close to identical.

    You could have a twin outboard cat run against a twin large bigblock Vee against a single smaller bigblock Vee etc. The equalizer, none of you can go over 85 mph max.

    It then comes down to driver, throttleman, setup, consistency, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeybandit View Post
    I'm trying to figure out all of this breakout stuff. Shouldn't a boat with legal equipment be allowed to go as fast as it can? If you go to a longer offshore course, there is no need for any of this. Open water and longer courses are the great equalizers.
    They are very much so.....the mixed course option seems to be the popular one so maybe we can take that and build that into an entity!!!!
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhHWX1Ye-TQ&NR=1

    This is some decent footage!!!
    God forgives.....The 1% doesn't!!!!!!
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    God forgives.....The 1% doesn't!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratickle View Post
    It then comes down to driver, throttleman, setup, consistency, etc.
    And of course the stop watch.
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