Cougar Cat 40 w Turbines for sale what's the story

**thedonz** · 09-30-2009 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet!

Mike, totally off topic, but Jo Nunez showed me some pictures of your old 24 when it was being re-rigged and it had the name Mandy and a phone number on it. Was that Mandy Fernandez or another guy?

No different guy.....but i would like to see those pics....send them to my email top1gun38@aol.com....thanks

Mike

**Black Tornado** · 09-30-2009 05:01 PM

Graham,excuse me if I have thrown you inside this history.
Today I have found the context of the photo of the 41'Bengal Bay ex Cougar that refers to the Worlds of Atlantic City of the 1989. Then it could not be the Bengal Bay with the cutted gunwale that it is dated instead 1988.
After all also a 41' pic from the old your Library in Boatmad, show the ex Curtis cat in Atlantic City docks in 1989 that confirm this.
I also apologize to Pete for my insistence.

**Ratickle** · 09-30-2009 08:00 PM

Just throwing in that I love reading this thread....

**lowblue320** · 09-30-2009 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by thedonz

hugo columbo is realated to christopher columbus ( 1492 ). He's was the developer of the " santa maria" in brickell

mike

lol

**thedonz** · 10-01-2009 09:52 AM

y0o0 regatta in 1 week.....are you in ...i'm there....let me know

Mike

**Lubejobs42** · 10-02-2009 12:09 AM

Somebody should send the link to John Aruda. He should buy it. He could probably get some good tips on building a turbine boat!

**Chris** · 10-02-2009 07:56 AM

I saw the boat back in 2000. The photos really don't do it justice.

**KAAMA** · 04-28-2010 11:20 PM

I remember seeing those Cougar Cats like KS&W, Sea Hawk, K-Systems, etc, running at least once or twice at the Grand Haven, Michigan boat races back in the day....1980's. I always remember seeing these boats mostly colored in black with gold accent striping on them---and some with megaphone/cone shaped attachments to the tailpipes of the exhaust.

**MANITIE** · 04-28-2010 11:56 PM

Ryan....I think Craig Barrie was in that boat named Coors Light in 1987, Craig has old mags. and news articals of them, he showed me a numbe of mags and pics of them in that Cougar.

**fixxxer22** · 04-29-2010 03:36 PM

Ok, i dont think anyone has asked.... why the hell is there 2 turbine engines in this thing and a jet outboard? to get it moving or for docking? i am confused!

**Chris** · 04-29-2010 03:45 PM

When this boat was assembled in the late 90's there had yet to be developed a way of adapting a transmission to a turbine. So these were direct-coupled to the drives. He cut a well in the back and mounted this outboard in the middle of the tunnel. When you wanted to back up, you lowered the outboard and started it.

In order to shift the transmissions on turbines, brakes were developed to momentarily stop the output shaft rotation. A turbine at minimum idle RPM still has a turning output shaft. And not all turbines are capable of having the output stage stopped- even briefly. That may have been the case with the units he used here. I can't remember what they were. The owner had an old Cig 35 for sale about 10 years ago that I looked at. I checked out the Cougar while I was there.

**Offshore Ginger** · 04-29-2010 07:59 PM

PJC - just curious Mate are you Steve Curtis......or

**PJC** · 04-30-2010 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Offshore Ginger

PJC - just curious Mate are you Steve Curtis......or

Close he is in the next office, I am Pete Currington - Steve's buisness partner at Cougar Marine

**FastDonzi** · 04-30-2010 08:18 AM

PJC is one of the most talented people in the Boat Biz, Some of the Little common sense I have I learned from him. (hey pete, are you gonna make it over for any of Steves races? I'm thinking of going to the Miami race in June)

**fixxxer22** · 04-30-2010 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Chris

When this boat was assembled in the late 90's there had yet to be developed a way of adapting a transmission to a turbine. So these were direct-coupled to the drives. He cut a well in the back and mounted this outboard in the middle of the tunnel. When you wanted to back up, you lowered the outboard and started it.

In order to shift the transmissions on turbines, brakes were developed to momentarily stop the output shaft rotation. A turbine at minimum idle RPM still has a turning output shaft. And not all turbines are capable of having the output stage stopped- even briefly. That may have been the case with the units he used here. I can't remember what they were. The owner had an old Cig 35 for sale about 10 years ago that I looked at. I checked out the Cougar while I was there.

It all makes sense now

**Chris** · 04-30-2010 10:30 AM

I'm far from an expert on turbines, but the way I understand it, the output stage blades are hollow and are cooled by air passing through them as they rotate. Without cooling they overheat and deform or fail. Some turbines are made to be idled or stopped- like the one's in an M-1 tank or some of the marine-specific ones. Some are tolerant of it for brief periods of time and some will just die if you applied a brake to the output.

**Rik** · 04-30-2010 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Chris

When this boat was assembled in the late 90's there had yet to be developed a way of adapting a transmission to a turbine. So these were direct-coupled to the drives. He cut a well in the back and mounted this outboard in the middle of the tunnel. When you wanted to back up, you lowered the outboard and started it.

In order to shift the transmissions on turbines, brakes were developed to momentarily stop the output shaft rotation. A turbine at minimum idle RPM still has a turning output shaft. And not all turbines are capable of having the output stage stopped- even briefly. That may have been the case with the units he used here. I can't remember what they were. The owner had an old Cig 35 for sale about 10 years ago that I looked at. I checked out the Cougar while I was there.

There was a way, we've done it since the early 80's with a caliper and rotor but people at the local yacht club started getting irritated at the noise so it was dual function. Noise reduction and auxiliary power.

**Offshore Ginger** · 04-30-2010 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by PJC

Close he is in the next office, I am Pete Currington - Steve's buisness partner at Cougar Marine

Cool , and the reason i asked is..... i remember seeing and talking with Steve and Jim Dyke when they were both with Spirt of Norway while on one of there many visits at Skater and a funny thing is... i worked on one of your old Canopy boats for Bobby Cousta which i think was a 46 or bigger and also one of the old Spirt Of Norway boats which had a very light layup .