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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsation96 View Post
    I am not firm on the $15,000.00 but I know that alot of SOS guy's have endless pockets and I don't so Budget is everything for me. But thanks for all the help this thread is gaining some ground quick.
    I do NOT have deep pockets, but I looked at the difference between so-so engines and really good engines and it was too close to regret later. (Not that the dam things are finished yet anyway.) Actually... the SOS guys have been invaluable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattBMiller View Post
    Was the boat originally rigged with smallblocks? Is it that one with the 6.2's?
    No, another project
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    We will see if this works out for me, stuff like usally does not for me anyway. But I could also find some engines and then have some turn key (not wrenching on the weekend power) made for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fund razor View Post
    I do NOT have deep pockets, but I looked at the difference between so-so engines and really good engines and it was too close to regret later. (Not that the dam things are finished yet anyway.) Actually... the SOS guys have been invaluable.
    I agree do it once do it right. I always go buy the cheap man pays twice.
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    Regarding crate engines MangeW has a 572 GMPP engine in his as a base engine..with a Autorotor screw compressor and sofort it goes like this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isqv8MZ3rUc

    A friend just dropped in a 540/600 Merlin in his Baja 24 outlaw and it has performed flawlessly.
    If it has brass plugs like the Merlin has and a relatively mild non roller cams and proper headgaskets thats a drop in.
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    It seems like everytime someone says "383" everyone assumes car engine. Mercruiser had a 383 Bobtail a few years ago that was slick. The looked just like a 350 Mag MPI. I bought and installed a couple of them.
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    It'll be cheaper to buy a set of complete takeouts and go through them then to piece together two motor with accessories and everything.
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    I just saw a set of 377 Scorpions for sale somewhere....I'll try to find them again.
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    This looks like a deal to me....

    In fact, if I still had the Cig, I probably wouldn't forward this link

    http://kansascity.craigslist.org/boa/1376136233.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsation96 View Post
    Is the block it self the same between a car and a boat? at what point does it begin to change to marine? Pistons? Cam? Heads?
    Heres a general overview.

    http://www.marineenginedigest.com/sp...arinevauto.htm
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    Well just spoke to someone and big blocks might be a better choice for resale of the boat a boat with small blocks is hard to sell this is getting harder by the minute still have to figure alot of stuff out.
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    Those generalisations are almost always total crap.
    A car engine done as a marine engine is in short averything you bolt on it has to be marine stuff i.e. all the accessories.
    The engine block itself in a bread and butter marine engine can be a regular 4-bolt even cast crank truck engine with only brass plugs instead of steel ones.

    In fact the 454 SS pickups had brass plugs in their blocks and the intake carried the same serial number ( and the camshaft too) than the 330/454...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsation96 View Post
    Well just spoke to someone and big blocks might be a better choice for resale of the boat a boat with small blocks is hard to sell this is getting harder by the minute still have to figure alot of stuff out.
    Nothing beats Cubic Inches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Smokes View Post
    This looks like a deal to me....

    In fact, if I still had the Cig, I probably wouldn't forward this link

    http://kansascity.craigslist.org/boa/1376136233.html
    Hmmm...first sentence says with Gil Exhaust. Then he prices them without the exhaust. And is that price for BOTH motors? I wish some people would take the extra 2 minutes and write a clear add!

    That COULD be a smokin deal!!!
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    The seller or buyer is the question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsation96 View Post
    Well just spoke to someone and big blocks might be a better choice for resale of the boat a boat with small blocks is hard to sell this is getting harder by the minute still have to figure alot of stuff out.
    I agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyFIN View Post
    Those generalisations are almost always total crap.
    A car engine done as a marine engine is in short averything you bolt on it has to be marine stuff i.e. all the accessories.
    The engine block itself in a bread and butter marine engine can be a regular 4-bolt even cast crank truck engine with only brass plugs instead of steel ones.

    In fact the 454 SS pickups had brass plugs in their blocks and the intake carried the same serial number ( and the camshaft too) than the 330/454...
    So what you are saying is that I can get ahold of Car big blocks and build them with great parts and bolt on the marine parts right?
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    Mercury sells the 383 thru their remanufacturing group in a carbureted version. You can buy a complete package at a pretty decent rate.

    I put one of these packages in my friends SeaRay earlier this year. He had a Merc 260/Alpha, we did the 383/Bravo III and it picked up nearly 10 mph.

    Nuwave here in NJ has decent prices on packages and you can also try Marine Power Services, also here in NJ.

    You can also sometimes get decent prices from Donnie at Offshore Performance.
    Last edited by Geronimo36; 09-16-2009 at 03:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsation96 View Post
    So what you are saying is that I can get ahold of Car big blocks and build them with great parts and bolt on the marine parts right?
    Yes
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    I agree a true marine engine is better than a crate engine. However, a lot of people have had good luck with using crate motors in their boats with a few minor changes.
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