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Which of the above 3 is the best and why ????
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09-11-2009 10:24 AMAre you referring to a single-plane high rise manifold????
Dart: http://www.dartheads.com/products/in...manifolds.html
Merlin: http://www.worldcastings.com/product...manifolds.html
Victor:http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ictor-bb.shtml
Team G: http://www.holley.com/7624.asp
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09-11-2009 12:53 PM
I am running the Merlin X intake. It has bigger runners than the Victor I have sitting on the shelf. I don't know if it is really any better though. It was designed for 540+ cubic inch engines. I just bought it because Summit had them on sale for $199 for the brass lined marine version. I honestly don't think there is enough difference to worry about between any of them.
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09-11-2009 03:08 PMI thought as much but you didn't clarify single-plane or dual-plane or dual-plane high-ries so I was flying blindly.
I've used the Edelbrock on my scarab engines and the dart over the years and thought the Dart was the best. I wanted to use the Merlin marine because of the brass insert but never got a chance. My friend ran the team-g on his 502's and was happy with it... I think they're all pretty close.
One thing that seems to help them is a 2" carb spacer.
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09-15-2009 09:30 PMHas anyone looked at the profiler sniper and sniper jr intakes for a marine application?
Article in engine builder shown 45hp increase on a 496 drag motor over closest competitor. Strange looking intake, but seems to be the new up and coming design for drag guys on BBC.
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09-15-2009 10:31 PM
I don't disagree. The "X" intake that I am running is bigger that the standard merlin too. I just never could get used the the looks of the regular merlin with the dominator flange. I intend to dyno my mill this winter and will try my merlin "X" vs the the Victor I have sitting on the shelf. If anybody has a dart with a dominator flange I'll try that too. By the way, the too big Merlin runs really damn good on my 555ci with excellent throttle response throughout the RPM range.
Scott, here is the profiler.
http://www.profilerperformance.com/b...ntake-206.html
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09-16-2009 02:46 AM
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09-16-2009 02:56 AM
might be the Runner length vs bore size comes to the right harmonics with your combo and therefore good Throttle response despite it having somewhat short runners IMO.
Thenagain the Big plenum I reckon helps your case at the initial throttle response as the engines doesnīt starve for air and has to breathe a long way to gasp som air initially.
When the Rpms rise itīs a matter of vaporspeed, droplet size and harmonics.
Iīd love to wetflow test these all just to see what they do myself.
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09-16-2009 08:42 AMinteresting about the Profiler, the description says; "1" spacer cast into the manifold"
Hmmm,,,refer to my 2nd post.
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09-16-2009 09:33 AMA spacer works different on each aplication, the further u go from the block the later the torque kicks in the powerband.
So if u run high RPM's a spacer is ok but if u pleassure boat with allot of idle and mid range,,absolute nonsense.
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09-16-2009 09:41 AM
Mikey, I don't see where the runner length of the Dart vs. the Merlin X is appreciably different. They look pretty damn close to me. Like said above I think all so close you will never know the difference unless you opened the hatch. The main difference I see is the open vs clover leaf mounting flange. And Geronimo, I am running a 1" wilson 4 hole spacer.
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09-16-2009 10:26 AM
There you have it... the Dart has longer dividers and more runner area, agreed ? Thats the most important part there when the divider is shaped like that on a Dart, up the plenum.
The cloverleaf flange might give a better signal But I reckon only with a 4 hole spacer.
An open would ruin it.
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09-16-2009 11:20 AMIt worked very well in all the pleasure boats I've put them on and the dyno also showed the same results.
Actually idled better too...
HVH super sucker
http://www.highvelocityheads.com/ss.htmLast edited by Geronimo36; 09-16-2009 at 11:34 AM.