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    FF, the first boat in your last post (cantieri del Med) looks to be the boat tied up to the inside of the #75 boat in the first photo in post #96. Then I would expect that the outside boat is the same as the thrid photo in post #96. I'd thought that that boat was the same boat as the middle boat, only repainted, but on review the exhaust and drives are different.


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    Flying fish
    The white boat was ex-Paul Picot,the yellow boat was ex-Muira,the red boat was ex-Sun International.Chesterfield Missoni was destroyed,Annabella became Folletts,which only leaves Eberhard or Trussardi.See what a minefield it is.I cannot find anything in Marco`s notes to clarify those three boats I have posted.
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    Just to ad some confusion I want to remind of GB Pedrini 38' and a winged red 38' Iranian Loom (looks like the white one but I think the wing was not so far aft). Have fun:bigear:!
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    Thanks Olli! It's funny, I rarely see a picture of a CUV that's not FLYING!

    So that leaves 5 41s? Man these things are rarer than a 250 GTO!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet! View Post
    So information from "other sources" (Flying Fish on OSO)...

    Apache vs CUV Key West 1985.

    Race 1 - Apache 1st,Cinzano 4th
    Race 2 - Cinzano 1st,Apache ret
    Race 3 - Apache 2nd,Cinzano 4th

    Total Points - Cinzano 738,Apache 700

    (Do I hear the crowd chanting "Score-board" right now )
    In race #2 Apache DNF so if they placed even 4th like Cinzano did in two races, Apache would have beat them in points... It's symantics...

    I agree you have to finish to win but as far as placement is concerned Apache had the better record with a 1st, 2nd in two out of three races. Cinzano placed 4th in two races and the race they placed 1st Apache DNF. All Apache had to do was finish the race and I'm sure they would have edged out Cinzano in points.

    counting points, yeah, they won but I don't see them as the faster boat.

    Here's the US1, 86'
    http://www.youtube.com/user/fungarte.../9/tlyg3TN5hVM

    There's no doubt the CUV is a strong competitor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo36 View Post

    counting points, yeah, they won but I don't see them as the faster boat.
    I thought Fountain fans would draw the Fastest flexiflyer card...

    There's no doubt the CUV is a strong competitor!
    Now thatīs whatīs offshore is all about...Strong and tough.
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    just givin you back some of your symantics posted in the Apache threads Mikey!

    Carry on fellas!
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    CUV v Apache
    Based on KW85 I would have said Apache had the upperhand,but in reality both Shead and Aronow boats were pretty evenly matched.
    If you take the period when Don Shead`s Unowot was up against the ciggy Dry Martini,that was pretty even ,and both boats have gone on to be used as models for CUV and Apache respectively.
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    Another winged CUV
    ex- Eberhard & Co 41ft
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    Was the boat sucessful with the wing? Was the wing effective?


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    Wings
    Asked about the wings on his Buzzi mono Fiat Uno A. Ugland said:
    "They start to work at about 85-90 mph. At that speed they stabilize the boat and give us quite a lot of lift at the back. It depends on the adjustments."
    Mmmmh. At least those wings create some additional space for the sponsors
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    Wings
    The only wings that I knew the info on were Debenhams and Goldrush.These were designed by aircraft companies,and as you would expect they made all the usual claims of massive lift,but in practice the drivers never really used them to that extent,either because of the drag or the waves knocked em for six.A couple of cougar cats did have them and they did work because they were left on during their racing lives.
    Debenhams and Goldrush are Shead boats,Power Marine is an Italian Power Marine design.
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    Goldrush wing
    Damn,the photo doesn`t show the wing.It fell off after the start!

    I forgot about the Buzzi boats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLYING FISH View Post
    I forgot about the Buzzi boats.
    Shame on you!

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    Buzzi's wing
    Once Buzzi explained that the wings on some of his boat-as the Cesa 1882 - they served for reducing the rolling very accented that his mono suffered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLYING FISH View Post
    Although Marco and I have had a good go at tracing the history of these craft,there are still a few ones that have escaped the net.See attatchment.Same boat?

    So far numbers logged as follows

    38`s

    Alitalia Uno (Picchiotti)
    Alitalia Due (Picchiotti)
    Alitalia Tre
    Martini Racing (Picchiotti Design)
    Ali Reza
    Rothmans Ego
    Trussardi
    Ego Lamborghini
    Muira
    Nooxy

    41`s

    Chesterfield Missoni
    Eberhard & Co
    Annabella
    Sun International
    Paul Picot
    Parfums Trussardi ? (As attachment)

    Back to the darkroom with you Marco
    Back from the darkroom where I have seen the lists and the photos again I have few to add to your list.
    Martini Racing would not catalog it with the CUVs.
    After the 1977 Picchiotti and CUV they separated and they became rival between them. Picchiotti built the 38' and the 35' from itself.
    Muira read as Miura
    Then 9 should be the 38'Shead built by CUV among the 1977-the two Alitalia and the 1987-Trussardi Parfums of Giovio.
    A doubtful only on the true origins of the Trussardi Parfums of Giovio that could be also the Ouragan ex Alitalia Due-Ego Rothmans(I).
    Does someone have some image of the back of the Trussardi?
    Or he could be the Ali Reza, but this last I believe was the US-CUV Ittios / Bandit / Caliente.
    Here they would be also pleasant images of the back of that US-CUV.
    About the 41' five should be the built and I would perhaps remove the Parfums Trussardi-Jeans Unlimited of Damiano Spelta from the list because it maybe was the former Della Valle with the three babies Lambo.About the three pics attacched the answer is: yes,is the same boat I think.
    However that CUVs are not rare as the Ferraris 250 GTO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olli View Post
    Just to ad some confusion I want to remind of GB Pedrini 38' and a winged red 38' Iranian Loom (looks like the white one but I think the wing was not so far aft). Have fun:bigear:!
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    Confusion but a little bit.
    GB Pedrini for Maurizio Darai at the Venezia to Montecarlo in 1990 should be the ex Ego with the Marathons-the Dimensione Uomo of the pic- alias the winner of the CTC 2009.
    The Iranian Looms I believe was always the same boat.
    I have not found photo in my files by the moment .
    Do you have of it?
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    No pic of Iranian Loom, unfortunately. I do have a video, will try to take a pic off the TV screen. However I am sure it is the same boat as in FF's post #109. It has the same hatches with those scoops.

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    PS Wasn't there a CUV at the '81 worlds Grey Energy?
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    What a fool that I am!
    Iranian Loom is the second name of Pago Fruit!
    Then ex Pedrini in pink with the mouth of shark, therefore perhaps ex Parfums Trussardi-Jeans Unlimited of Damiano Spelta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olli View Post
    No pic of Iranian Loom, unfortunately. I do have a video, will try to take a pic off the TV screen. However I am sure it is the same boat as in FF's post #109. It has the same hatches with those scoops.

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    No that posted by Graham in 109 is the Gruppo Dalle Carbonare - former the 41' with three Lambos of Della Valle and Missoni.

    Yep! Cray Energy was the former Alitalia Uno.
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