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I havent been on this site in a while, so I was unaware this run was taking place. Sorry about the 31' Sea Ray that almost was in the way during the run, we saw the line of boats coming our way and...

People create user names just to argue with a guy who has created in my opinion the best thread on this site?

Steve has no reason to post any of the stories, pictures, etc that he has in this...

Lotus did most of the design work. Merc was chosen because of their manufacturing capabilities. Both of these facts did not sit well with GM's powertrain divisions. The ZR-1 engine pushed internal...

I thought that was the one created for the Thad Allen project (now Pantera 41' molds), but it looks to be different...

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1581501&postcount=99

Bp got me for a day late once. $65 fee for a $75 bill, plus carry-over interest into the next billing cycle. The payment was sent in 11 days before it was due.

The best part, they said the only...

Steve, I am so glad you started this thread up. You just dont get this type of detailed info on the behind the scenes process of boat building.

One question, I know a lot of what you have...

Was the T-4 plug ever finished or used to create molds?

What a tragic story that so much work was put in, and no product to show for it.

Steve 1, great post over on Screamandfly. It seems like there was more to show and tell when that thread ended though.

I assume the molds Pantera ended up with are the "T-4" boat? What...

I'd like to hear the history of them, the design, how they ended up at Pantera, etc.

Im always up for learning the inner workings of the marine industry, even if it results in a deleted thread, :)...

I have no opinion either way as I was not involved with his dealings, all i know is bs usually follows from both sides when his name is brought up. Like I said, all I have consistently heard is the...

Wow those molds are finally getting used. I wonder how much design rework was done by John (Cosker) to the design.

Regardless of all the bs Thad started, I heard from a few people that those...

I like the boat pics, but I vote for more pics of the "weird stuff."

That garage has my attention.

Typical Eagles fans. Dont think about what the player can do for you on the field, complain about his past and whine that he doesnt belong. These are the same moron fans that booed McNabb on draft...

I thought I read somewhere this was a real Cig at one point that had a fire onboard. Someone took the hull, cut a few feet off the back, and tried to make a usable boat out of it. I could be...

Were you idling around Marina Shores Saturday about 3:00 or so? I saw a 27' Formula that looked like yours but I wasn't sure.

Its not too bad, definately colder than usual. Last Sunday the lake was calmer than I have seen in a long time, even calmer than last year after the flooding.

I will be out Satuday and Sunday...

No one does until tomorrow...

Its hard to see that T2x is a cat guy...

:p

Did anyone go look at this boat?

Ah Force 10...

What was once a Cig mold, used to make a few boats, and then ended up in Bajas hands to become the 36' Outlaw. Interesting history...

Very nice!

Is that a new 36' on the far right in the cockpit pic?


Does this mean Pantera has an active government contract? That would be good news in a slow economy for sure.

Spent some time at Marina Shores in Indiana on Sunday. It was pretty cool out, so we just hung around the docks.

I have a feeling it is going to be a long while before the lake warms up this...

Apache molds yes, but not original. They are the molds Thad Allen had made new, when he thought he had the rights to the Apache name.

The molds are very nice from what I have heard, but have...

You taking it out this weekend? I think Sunday is supposed to be really calm on the lake, albiet a bit cool at only 62 degrees.

I was being nice, Ill let the guys with more boating experience/history make the comments, :lurk5: