Svl

[XtremeRacing]

Are we going to see the battle of the SVL in Sarasota ??

[Steve Miklos]

Adib and I are coming.
Steve

[XtremeRacing]

Any other SVL going to take a run at Steve, nows your chance?

[XtremeRacing]

Looks like no taker again Steve, I guess they just don't really want to race.

[SVL66]

Just a quick reponse.

I am trying to make Sarasota. I wasn't planning on running SVL though, for two reasons. 1- I thought the class was dropped by SBI 2- I doubt any other OSS SVLs will come because they dont think they should have to pay full reg. fees for one race. That has always been their hang up. Others simply have a problem with SBI in general.

I think it would be silly to register as SVL and pay higher fees when there are only 2 SVLs. So, if I do make it down, it will most likely be P4 for me. I hope the teams have a change of heart, but doubt it.

[XtremeRacing]

Bruce,
Sounds good and make scene. SBI would run the class if there were enough boats, hope to see you there.

[DAREDEVIL]

SBI has actually 2 reg SVL boats as far as i know ,,,PIRATE and the guy from georgia ?? can't remember his name .Masu....... LOL

So that would be 4 !!!

Then ,,i thought Jenny was thinking about doing this also if there would be some boats ......that would be 5 .

Bruce ,,i think u should call them all up and say lets do this ?!

Other then that ,,see you there !!!!:seeya:

[SVL66]

Bob Masakowski (sp) Are you sure they are all reg in SVL?
You just want me to run SVL so I dont whoop on you in P4. If there are 5 boats committed, I will run.

[F1-00 Racing]

as far as i know



Correction, Pirate is registered as a P-4 and Maz raced last year as a SVL but did not race his boat in KW, he was the driver for Fluid Sealing Products in the Super Stock Class, hence his boat not be registered at this time.

[DAREDEVIL]

Correction, Pirate is registered as a P-4 and Maz raced last year as a SVL but did not race his boat in KW, he was the driver for Fluid Sealing Products in the Super Stock Class, hence his boat not be registered at this time.

OOPS,,your right ,,did not think about that !!!

But i do think that pirate was at 1 point a SVL last year ???? because of Bob ????

Well,,,maybe i am wrong,,,but i guess Bob and Pirate would run Sarasota if u call them and ask !!!???

But again maybe i am wrong.

Also i don't think that SVL's are allowed to race in P4 this year ?! But again ,,,maybe i am wrong.

Bruce...i don't care ,,,,lets have fun.

[F1-00 Racing]

The way I was instructed as to my boat in Miami is that each boat would be evaluated on a boat to boat basis. Unfortuntly SVL's are in no mans land half way between the speeds of P3 to P4(89-91mph in perfect ideal conditions), in looking at the registered P3 fleet of SBI I see 2 former Super Vees(100mph) and a former Super Stock(per the classified add 117mph). I think that would be ridiculous for them to compete with those boats for obvious reasons. Ultimately, if they all can get on the same page and show, then they would have their own class and it wouldnt be an issue, but until then.......

[SVL66]

I just cant justify paying the SVL fees for one race and a few boats. If the entire fleet came out for a showdown, it might be worth it.

[imco offshore]

could someone please post the fees for everything including entrys for SVL and P class and my wallet will make up my mind thanks. <daredevil nothing personal> but please don,t reply i.v read most of your post and they are 50 % right 50% of the time.

[SVL66]

Vlite or Vlimited. $3,875.00
Equipment reg. 1500
race Reg 1675
plus riding crew 350 ea.

P class $1,975
Eqipment reg 600 (may be prorated)
Race Reg. 675
plus riding crew 350 ea

[F1-00 Racing]

Bruce are you sure that entry fee is correct? I remember when I was in F1 it was the same entry @ 1075. Obviously a few years has gone by, but I dont think its 1675. I might be wrong of course, just curious

Trent

[Dunbar 104]

Alot of money for one day of racing. Prize money??? is there any???

[F1-00 Racing]

2000 for p 1-3 payout
5000 for SVL 1-5 payout

[Ryan Beckley]

The SBI site shows as following SVX at $1,675.00 SVU at $1,675.00 and SV at $1,475.00 no mention of there being a lite class or is that SV now? P- classe are $675.00 each. Total prize monies based on 5 boats showing up per class.

[F1-00 Racing]

Ryan,

P is based on 3 boats

[DAREDEVIL]

could someone please post the fees for everything including entrys for SVL and P class and my wallet will make up my mind thanks. <daredevil nothing personal> but please don,t reply i.v read most of your post and they are 50 % right 50% of the time.

50% and 50 % = 100% THANKS :biggrinjester:

LOL c-ya in sarasota

[F1-00 Racing]

Alot of money for one day of racing. Prize money??? is there any???


Mark/Jenni,

I mean no disrespect, but your trying to tell me that you guys cant find a 1000 sponsor per race, with the CBS pkg especially using the fact that you guys were the only showcased team on the OSS telecast today. Your a very marketable team. You guys not only have incredible talent but the proof is in the pudding to back it up from a marketing standpoint with todays broadcast alone. I know you are a loyal OSS team and I applaude you for that, but yes I can see it as being unmarketable with your season in the books and no further confirmed races on the schedule. Its hard to sell something that might or might not happen.

Everyone has their opinions on how this deal works, but I feel us as teams need to be proactive and quit waiting for OPA, SBI, or OSS to give us handouts. I also feel that it can be as expensive as we want it to be. If I want to sit on my arse and wait for handouts then yeah, prolly will be expensive, but if I go out on my own and get a 1000 sponsor per race then that eliminates some of the expense and makes it more affordable, heck then maybe a 100 or 500 or maybe even a 1500 sponsor per race will come on board. It all adds up. Ryan is the perfect example of this. He is very proactive for Double-Edge and it minimizes his out of pocket expenses.

Trent

[F1-00 Racing]

Also I found some paperwork(from SBI) from January and it shows SVL as being 1275 entry during the 2008 season.

[Sean Stinson]

If someone has an SVL that they want or need someone to run with I will dig out my helmet and lifeline!!!!!

[SVL66]

Bruce are you sure that entry fee is correct? I remember when I was in F1 it was the same entry @ 1075. Obviously a few years has gone by, but I dont think its 1675. I might be wrong of course, just curious

Trent

I could be wrong. It doesn't say in the racer's packet. Every other class, with the exception of SS, was 1675. i assumed Vee lite was as well. SS is 1075, so may be you are right.

[SVL66]

If someone has an SVL that they want or need someone to run with I will dig out my helmet and lifeline!!!!!

Dont think you'll be needing the lifeline. Unless its a capsule suit

[Sean Stinson]

Dont think you'll be needing the lifeline. Unless its a capsule suit

You know what I mean, bro!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone:

[XtremeRacing]

The epuipment fee will be pro rated for any class.

[Steve Miklos]

I think this is race now or forever lose your class. So you can say wow that is allot of money or have a boat that's value falls to next to nothing. Entry fees are a small part of a race budget.
Steve

[TYPHOON]

Steve there small if its your budget.:dupe:
MD

[Sean Stinson]

I think this is race now or forever lose your class. So you can say wow that is allot of money or have a boat that's value falls to next to nothing. Entry fees are a small part of a race budget.
Steve

Steve

I think most are just looking for any excuse not to race!!! If I had an SVL I would race it if someone wants to somebody to race their SVL I will do that....

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

If someone has an SVL that they want or need someone to run with I will dig out my helmet and lifeline!!!!!


Steve

I think most are just looking for any excuse not to race!!! If I had an SVL I would race it if someone wants to somebody to race their SVL I will do that....

I disagree.. I do agree with Steve on the point about no class depreciates the boats though.

I hope Frank is right and there really is a prorated fee. It is a lot to pay the years fees to race Sarasota knowing you pay again in KW. Steve and others that live in Central Florida get a big break in their expenses. I notice many FL guys don't leave the state and still won't do all the races. Some of the SLV teams travel further each race than some FL guys do all year.

[SVL66]

Who will be running SVL in Sarasota? It is my understanding the Pirate team recently had an illness in the family. Do they plan on racing? If so, will they run SVL or P4? What is Bob M. doing?

Randy, time to keep this class alive. Get the Oss VLs to Sarasota, and Im sure Steve, Bob M, and Pirate will come to Loto. It's give and take...not just take.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Bob M was talking about running the Pirate boat in SVL after Cumberland.

[Sean Stinson]

Look Jimmy if they want to race they will be there if they don't they will figure out a reason not to be there!!!

[XtremeRacing]

Jim you only pro rate equipment fews for the yr.

[Ratickle]

Look Jimmy if they want to race they will be there if they don't they will figure out a reason not to be there!!!

I'm with Jim on this one Sean. It's not the travel expense, it's the time. We are looking heavy into downsizing our fleet and getting a SVL. But to travel far takes time. With both of us in management for companies, we can afford the expense, just can't take off three or four extra days every three or so weeks to hit races in FL. Can do MI, WI, LOTO, NJ. That's about it for reasonable travel time. SVL doesn't run all those.

[XtremeRacing]

After Sarasota SBI goes to Mich, NY, and NC. Back to FL for the National Championship, and then KW

[Dunbar 104]

Mark/Jenni,

I mean no disrespect, but your trying to tell me that you guys cant find a 1000 sponsor per race, with the CBS pkg especially using the fact that you guys were the only showcased team on the OSS telecast today. Your a very marketable team. You guys not only have incredible talent but the proof is in the pudding to back it up from a marketing standpoint with todays broadcast alone. I know you are a loyal OSS team and I applaude you for that, but yes I can see it as being unmarketable with your season in the books and no further confirmed races on the schedule. Its hard to sell something that might or might not happen.

Everyone has their opinions on how this deal works, but I feel us as teams need to be proactive and quit waiting for OPA, SBI, or OSS to give us handouts. I also feel that it can be as expensive as we want it to be. If I want to sit on my arse and wait for handouts then yeah, prolly will be expensive, but if I go out on my own and get a 1000 sponsor per race then that eliminates some of the expense and makes it more affordable, heck then maybe a 100 or 500 or maybe even a 1500 sponsor per race will come on board. It all adds up. Ryan is the perfect example of this. He is very proactive for Double-Edge and it minimizes his out of pocket expenses.

Trent

Oh I have learned alot from Ryan on how to pay for racing. The kilo run is about the only thing making me think about racing Sarasota and that would be the only one. With all the rumers going on, yeah it does have me also sitting back and waiting.

I did whip up on a couple of Bajas this weekend so I'm still racing, but we were in differnt classes.

[Sean Stinson]

I'm with Jim on this one Sean. It's not the travel expense, it's the time. We are looking heavy into downsizing our fleet and getting a SVL. But to travel far takes time. With both of us in management for companies, we can afford the expense, just can't take off three or four extra days every three or so weeks to hit races in FL. Can do MI, WI, LOTO, NJ. That's about it for reasonable travel time. SVL doesn't run all those.

I understand your point...I am saying the ones that have them will race them if they want or come up with a reason not to!!!! In response to your time constraints I used to pick and choose where I wanted to run..... Sarasota and KW were the 2 biggest venues I wanted to be at!!!!!

[Sean Stinson]

BTW how was your vacation pal haven't talked for awhile!!!!

[Ratickle]

I understand your point...I am saying the ones that have them will race them if they want or come up with a reason not to!!!! In response to your time constraints I used to pick and choose where I wanted to run..... Sarasota and KW were the 2 biggest venues I wanted to be at!!!!!

Yep, unfortunately with the different groups now, the closer sites for SVL are slim. The old SilverCup up here used to make for a real good circuit, but that's old news.

[Ratickle]

BTW how was your vacation pal haven't talked for awhile!!!!

Great, I'll put something on the Chips thread.

[XtremeRacing]

Just cked with the office.

Epuip fees are : 1500 (pro rate up to Sarasota 937.50 )
entry fee : 1075
Purse :5500

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

George with IMCO has expressed an interest. He wants to do both but, may only be able to do one. We will see. He needs to figure it out soon.

I want to race Steve. If the Dunbars come that would be awesome. Not sure what BobM will be in for Sarasota. The IMCO, Dunbars and Pirate boat are pretty much dead even in speed right now. Randy would be right there too if JimmyN was driving.

I just go where I am told.:seeya:

[SVL66]

Im in if you guys are.

[Steve Miklos]

Im in if you guys are.

Im in!
Steve

[imco offshore]

jimmy do you want to race sarasota and clearwater and kw ? call me? i think if we all do this we can save our boats, it might take a few sacrifaces on all our parts, but like sean said we better do something and now . just on this post we could have 5 good boats ? Bruceie Steve Jim Bob Dave Mark Bob could bring 2 boats don,t for get Brad , that is the fastest of the fast ? if we all do it Randy will show up.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I just talked to George. We are in.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I 'll break the news to my wife tonight.:biggrinjester:

[imco offshore]

I 'll break the news to my wife tonight.:biggrinjester:

yea me too:boxing_smiley:

[Ratickle]

I 'll break the news to my wife tonight.:biggrinjester:


yea me too:boxing_smiley:

:rofl: :rofl: :leaving:

[Wardey]

Fantastic Guys !!! Proud of you !!! Dave

[TYPHOON]

Sean show me 2K and I will give you the driver seat. Be a part of the solution as you say. Bruce is going to sponsor me with entry fee and reg.
MD

[Sean Stinson]

Sean show me 2K and I will give you the driver seat. Be a part of the solution as you say. Bruce is going to sponsor me with entry fee and reg.
MD

I will call you in a little bit to discuss I was already talking to someone earlier today about a ride in their boat so I have a dilemma going here!!! No it's not that big of a problem!!!! I will call you Randy!!!!

[TYPHOON]

Sean, if you can get in another SVL boat go for it please. I have the feelers out for several other drivers. I dont think I will have a problem finding a driver for 2K for a race. I talked to the wife and she said what she always say's. If thats how you want to spend your time go for it. All the lights are green and let me get the Trophy ***** on board and you just mightsee Typhoon at the race.
Someone please call JC and make sure I am cleared to race with SBI before I make plans to dust the field. :26:
MD

[SVL66]

oh boy!!!! let the games begin

[imco offshore]

this is going to be real good for some and real ugly for others, my advice to all don.t come with a knife?????????? this is giong in the right direction it will make dreams for some and knightmares for others. ok i started it.now you bring it!

[imco offshore]

bruce good to see yaa

[SVL66]

bruce good to see yaa

bout time you learned how to use the computer:03:

[XtremeRacing]

Randy,
Give me a call when u have time.

321 693-0023

[ThrottleUp Props]

So we are only missing Mark and Jen?

Looking forward to seeing all of you!

[Dunbar 104]

Were thinking about it. Just start sending checks to help make up our mind!!!!!

[XtremeRacing]

Oh boy this is getting interesting. MD on the lose in Sarasota, look out.

[Dunbar 104]

Hey MD is your mascot still wearing his pink tutu or did the 85 mph tape finally let loose on the highway! Jenni

[imco offshore]

Hey MD is your mascot still wearing his pink tutu or did the 85 mph tape finally let loose on the highway! Jenni

be carefull he might be wearing it :dupe:

[XtremeRacing]

George dont **** him off, you know what happens when he's on the race course and you've ****ed him off. MD mania will be running wild!!

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

33278

[DAREDEVIL]

I knew it,,,now i have to buy a SVL for next year. lol




oh,,forgot ,,,,,i am broke .haha:sifone:




But this is real nice to see this happening ,now i can finally go to rest with my boat and let u guys take over . HAHAHAHAHAHAHA:biggrinjester:

:leaving:
C-YA !!!

[XtremeRacing]

Guys,

I just spoke to the office and the SVL are now on the entry form. If you r truly going to race SVL please down load the forms from the web site and send them in. John want to make sure he orders trophy for the class if you r racing. You dont need to send any payment at this time just get the paper work in so he knows whos coming and can do the pitt lay out also.

[XtremeRacing]

Super Boat International Productions, Inc. John Carbonell, President 1323 20th Terrace
Key West, Fl 33040
Office: 305-296-6166
Email: sbipinc@aol.com • Web: www.superboat.com
IMPORTANT INFORMATION – SARASOTA RACE:
1.
KILO RUN – The kilo run is July 3rd and all registration information must be in the Super Boat International office by June 26, 2009 to compete. We will not be accepting any unregistered entries at the race site. The registration listed on the schedule of events is for pre-registered entries only to sign paperwork.
2.
RACE ENTRIES – Your entry forms for the race (July 5) need to be in by June 26. This allows us to lay out the pit site and speed up the parking of the race boats.
3.
HOTEL ACCOMADATIONS – Refer to the Super Boat web site or the Suncoast web site (www.suncoastoffshore.org) for a list of hotels. The Hyatt Place Sarasota/Bradenton, 950 University Parkway is offering a special rate for the teams of $89/night plus tax by calling Ashley Giasone at 941-554-5803.
4.
TENT RENTAL – Tent rentals are available for the race by going to the Super Boat web site, click on the mini site for Sarasota and select Tent Rental. All tent rental forms must be paid for and in the Super Boat office no later than June 26th to secure your tent.
IMPORTANT INFORMATION – CLEARWATER RACE:
The National Championship race in Clearwater, Florida will be a double point race. It will also count as two races toward the qualification of participating in 60% of the National races to win the title. All other rules required will also apply. This allows a team to still be eligible for the National Championship title by starting in Sarasota.
If any racer has a question on the above information, feel free to contact me at 305-296-6166 (office) or 305-360-1762 (cell).
John Carbonell, President
Super Boat International

[Dunbar 104]

Ok here is where we are at. I have approval from Jenny to go race Sarasota. Its short noctice for us, but it is possible. Were budgeted to travel to the race, but it is impossible for us to register. We have plenty of sponsorship room on the top deck and uppersides and I know a guy in the area tha can make stickers. That will be the only way we can get there. Jenny said she would like to beat Randy again.

Mark

417-294-1362

[Ryan Beckley]

Mark & Jenni, You two are welcome to stay at my house if that helps.......

[ThrottleUp Props]

What a lovely gesture Ryan!

Julie

[SVL66]

Hopefully, that would make 6. Someone please confirm Team Pirates intent. Oh Willy, where are you?

[Ryan Beckley]

I believe the Pirates are on Hiatus, with health & Boat issues, I'ld like to wish David a speedy recovery......I think Wil's motor may be in California....

[imco offshore]

:seeya: i think wills motor is in brads boat the pig iron race team we need to call them and tell them that we all are going to sarasota i think he would love to come?

[Ratickle]

If you guys list all possible participants, we can help you locate and contact in any way we can.......

[imco offshore]

George dont **** him off, you know what happens when he's on the race course and you've ****ed him off. MD mania will be running wild!!

i know you might have not seen the last few races of svl but typhoon had to be PULLED around the course , he even called us on the radio to see if he was still in the same race? :sifone:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Easy

[XtremeRacing]

George

Your bad LOL

[imco offshore]

:( ok i,m sorry , randy we are all going to race in saasota and was wondering if you could possiably make our festive event? i,m sure it will be a smashing good time, and all the dog pound fans would really enjoy the oppportunity to see you in person and meet the typhoon boat in person, and go over to the beach and watch their real hero streeking across the ocean bouncing and flying thru the air and waving to them thru your side window while your hard in thought controling your racing boat thru the seas of west coast of florida ....WONDERING HOW IN THE HELL AM I GOING TO CATCH UP TO THE REST OF THEM????? :drool5::seeya:

[ThrottleUp Props]

Great post George...if that doesn't make him pick up the phone I don't know what will!

Call Frank, Randy and lets get this party started!

Julie

[XtremeRacing]

Guys if anyone plans on being in the Parade Thur July 2 , again get your forms in to the office ASAP .


Please fax or email this form in order to secure your spot in the parade
Fax: 941-371-8565 or Email: suncoastoffshore@yahoo.com
25th Annual Suncoast Offshore Parade of Boats Entry Form
Sarasota, Florida
Entry Name:______________________________________________________________________ ________________________
Contact for Parade Participation:
Phone #:_________________________________________________________________________ ______
IF A RACE TEAM, please fill in the following …
Boat Name:______________________________________________________________________ __________________________
Length:____________________________________
Manufacturer:______________________________________________________________ _______________________________
Descrip: □ Cat OR □ Vee
Motor Description: □ Single □ Twin □ Inboard □ Outboard
□ Horsepower in each motor:________________________________________________________
Additional descrip:___________________________________________________________________
Top Speed:_____________________________________________________________________ _____
Owner:___________________________________________ Hometown:___________________________________________
Driver:____________________________________________ Hometown:___________________________________________
Throttle:__________________________________________ Hometown:___________________________________________
Navigator:________________________________________ Hometown:___________________________________________
Length of your entry (boat + tow vehicle):______________________
Will you have additional equipment/vehicles with your towed boat? □ No □ Yes
If yes, please describe:
Length:_____________ Descrip:___________________________________________________________________ _
Length:_____________ Descrip:___________________________________________________________________ _
ONE SENTENCE team description:_______________________________________________________________ ___________
___________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________
IF A FLOAT or OTHER PARADE ENTRY, please fill in the following …
Float Theme:_____________________________________________________________________ _________________________
If dignitaries aboard, please list:______________________________________________________________________ _____
Length of Tow Vehicle/Float Combination:______________________
If you have additional equipment with your float, please list here:
Length:_____________ Descrip:___________________________________________________________________ _
Length:_____________ Descrip:___________________________________________________________________ _

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I am booked Thursday to Monday at Lido Holiday Inn.


I am getting excited already.

[Dunbar 104]

We have decided to give everyone else a chance to win. We are going to have so sit this one out.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

We have decided to give everyone else a chance to win. We are going to have so sit this one out.

That blows:(

[ThrottleUp Props]

Yea it does!!!!!!!!!!

Julie

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I am going to pray for your participation tonight

[Steve Miklos]

My prediction is 3 boats will show, tops. Unfortunate and kind of doom and gloom but will see. This is a sport where racers come and go as they please but expect everything to be ready should they decide to play on occasion.
Steve

[XtremeRacing]

Steve,

I think everyone is trying their best. With hard times as they r now thats all we can do is try. I think if we stick to it as a group we can make things happen.Three boats would be a step if the right direction, and a good start.

[DAREDEVIL]

We have decided to give everyone else a chance to win. We are going to have so sit this one out.

I understand the tuff times,,,,,but please be ownest ...with out starting BS here,,,would u sit out if it was an OSS event.

That much for uniting !

And loosing the chance on the world title in KW,,,,??????

COME ON .......... if i had money i pay u to come and show randy and steve how its done !!!!!!:)

[Dunbar 104]

I understand the tuff times,,,,,but please be ownest ...with out starting BS here,,,would u sit out if it was an OSS event.

That much for uniting !

And loosing the chance on the world title in KW,,,,??????

COME ON .......... if i had money i pay u to come and show randy and steve how its done !!!!!!:)


Its a 2 way street

[Dunbar 104]

On a positive note http://www.ky3.com/news/local/48299397.html

[DAREDEVIL]

Nice Video !!!!!
But the 2 way street has a big construction sign on the way !!!!!:lurk5:

[Steve Miklos]

Its a 2 way street

It is a two way street but may well soon not be. It is what you make of it.
Steve

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

When was it ever a two way street?

There have been a number of teams that raced both ways, but there are many more that wouldn't.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I understand the tuff times,,,,,but please be ownest ...with out starting BS here,,,would u sit out if it was an OSS event.

That much for uniting !

And loosing the chance on the world title in KW,,,,??????

COME ON .......... if i had money i pay u to come and show randy and steve how its done !!!!!!:)

You know Scotti, you have no room to talk. They ran a full season last year traveled all over the country. They missed the Nation crown by one point. The have stayed out of the politics and supported the group of there choice. I am happy they considered it. It would have been great to have them. It is very short notice.

I hope someone can step up and support them so that they can attend. We need more racers as dedicated as the Dunbars.

[Ryan Beckley]

Hey Steve , why didn't you run in Sunny Isles on Sunday?

[XtremeRacing]

Very cool Video... good job we need more of that out there .

[Ryan Beckley]

Awesome Video you too....great promotion for the sport!

[Dunbar 104]

Very cool Video... good job we need more of that out there .

Awesome Video you too....great promotion for the sport!


Thanks guys. Remember crazy Lisa from Biloxi she set it up for us. They are going to do a follow up for the shootout and the LOTO race.

Had good air shot but a jet ski got in the way.

[imco offshore]

hay guys i,m proud of you ???? but i think the follow.up story might have a surprised ending, knowone seen comming ? :confused: :reddevil:

[cigdaze]

On a positive note http://www.ky3.com/news/local/48299397.html

That's great. Too cool.
:cool:

[imco offshore]

I understand the tuff times,,,,,but please be ownest ...with out starting BS here,,,would u sit out if it was an OSS event.

That much for uniting !

And loosing the chance on the world title in KW,,,,??????

COME ON .......... if i had money i pay u to come and show randy and steve how its done !!!!!!:)

devil i believe i seen you at two oss races biloxi and cumberland but not your boat? why would you waste your money to go and not bring it, AS for the dunbars they elected to run for a national title in a series, so your answer is yes they would make it if it was ther series event, it only makes sense. as for uniting there are some million dollar teams that race in all the series and you show me where it has done anything for uniting? sorry but you can,t put the sports problem on us we don,t get in the politics. :USA:

[Brett]

I don't understand if everyone was on a budget from OSS to race the national circuit and didn't go to Sunny Isles because OSS pulled out then why wouldn't they replace Sunny Isles with Sarasota????? I think Steve was the only SVL that was there. Sarasota has been good to racing for over twenty years and I think they deserve our support no matter what circuit you follow.

[SVL66]

Just want to make it clear that Randy will come to Sarasota on the condition that Steve and I come to Loto. I spoke to Steve and he is not thrilled about going to Loto. Hopefully, he'll change his mind. If Randy doesn't come to Sarasota, I will not be in Loto either. Lets make a deal boyz.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Brett, they mentioned in a previous post the could make the trip. It was the registration fees that tipped the scale.

[Ratickle]

Brett, they mentioned in a previous post the could make the trip. It was the registration fees that tipped the scale.

I know I have no horse in this, but, because there is this one race where it is (as I understand it), double points, double participation credit, almost all the main SVL players are on board, CBS will be there, etc.

Could the fees not be halved one time as well, (or some similar savings for all to finish getting everyone there)? These types of opportunities don't come along all that often.

Now I'll go hide again:leaving:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

I understand Clearwater is double points.

[Ratickle]

I understand Clearwater is double points.

Sorry, I thought it was the other way around.

[Ryan Beckley]

Just FYI for the non boat owners that find it so easy to spend other peoples money.

As looking at the SBI rule Book the entries for Sarasota would be as follows

Equipment $1,500.00
Race Entry $1,475.00
Driver $350.00
Throttle $350.00

PLUS FUEL, HOTELS, FOOD, etc.

I know else where it was mentioned that the yearly equipment fee may be reduced but, I don't know.

Also I can not find a prize money breakdown anywhere on the SBI site, I do know that full prize money is only paid if 5 boats show up in the class.

But I can tell you that first place EVEN WITH FIVE boats wouldn't cover the entry fees.

[Brett]

Jim,
You are saying the one time equipment, driver, throttleman fees tipped the scale?
Entry fees are a wash or run P class for $675 like we do.
Don't they have money left from no entry fees for Sunny Isles and Orange Beach and would now qualify for a worlds.

[F1-00 Racing]

Ryan,

Negative, as Frank posted b4
SVL class
Equipment: prorated amt in the ballpark of 900 range
Race Entry:1075
driver/throttleman:700
Purse:5500

Please dont post misinformation, unfortunatly this goes back to being political, but bottom line, if they want to race, they show and race, if not we only wish them the best. When a particular team attaches strings it is obvious that it is a strategic political move.(Then the team cant even pick up the phone and get back in good standings) Your racing in Sarasota, which you do every year and I look forward to seeing you and having a great time as always. If any of the SVL's need a hand, let me know, my team and I will do anything we can to help you out.

Trent

[Ryan Beckley]

Hey Trent

I was just going by what I could find on the SBI site, I wasn't making anything up. No guessing, no political motives. Just putting it in to perspective for the people that find it so easy to spend other peoples money and don't know all the facts.

You guys keep saying the purse is $5500.00 for SVL please post the break down if that is the purse.

I offered to help get Mark & Jenni here as well so don't say I am trying to get anyone not to come.

Can anyone point me to the SBI payout schedule for 2009? I can not find it on the site.

[DAREDEVIL]

http://www.superboat.com/docs/09%20General%20Rules.pdf

[Dunbar 104]

Get a 4th boat locked down. other than Randy or us

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Jim,
You are saying the one time equipment, driver, throttleman fees tipped the scale?
Entry fees are a wash or run P class for $675 like we do.
Don't they have money left from no entry fees for Sunny Isles and Orange Beach and would now qualify for a worlds.

I only know what has been posted. I can't speak for them.

I have always enjoyed Sarasota. I first raced there in '90.

I am one of the lucky that gets to race without many of the costs.

[svl104]

I don't understand if everyone was on a budget from OSS to race the national circuit and didn't go to Sunny Isles because OSS pulled out then why wouldn't they replace Sunny Isles with Sarasota????? I think Steve was the only SVL that was there. Sarasota has been good to racing for over twenty years and I think they deserve our support no matter what circuit you follow.

we dont pay entry fee to race svl with oss so there wasnt that money we had to budget. we have the money to travel to sarasota since we didnt go to sib not enough for entry and i didnt plan on sib being cancelled and then we started discussing going to sarasota on tuesday, it really comes down to just time off for us on being short notice and not having anyone to run my business. just explaining before someone else tells me why we arent going. jenni

[Brett]

Ryan
Is the prize money more important to the SVL racers than having a race because that is what the word was in Sunny Isles?

[Ryan Beckley]

Brett

YES, in OSS the SVL entry is paid by the prize money and the rest is what they get for prize money. So the race fees are really a deal breaker for many SVL teams hence no SVL's in SIB & few in SBI.

[Brett]

i thought sib was just the bimini race

[F1-00 Racing]

Sorry Ryan I screwed up with the intent of my post, yes you did get the fees wrong, but political move was not directed at you, I Have edited the post to reflect the intent. I sincerly apologize.

Trent

[imco offshore]

Ryan,

Negative, as Frank posted b4
SVL class
Equipment: prorated amt in the ballpark of 900 range
Race Entry:1075
driver/throttleman:700
Purse:5500

Please dont post misinformation, unfortunatly this goes back to being political, but bottom line, if they want to race, they show and race, if not we only wish them the best. When a particular team attaches strings it is obvious that it is a strategic political move.(Then the team cant even pick up the phone and get back in good standings) Your racing in Sarasota, which you do every year and I look forward to seeing you and having a great time as always. If any of the SVL's need a hand, let me know, my team and I will do anything we can to help you out.

Trent

thanks it,s not often i reach out for the olive branch but my intentions are to race in sarasota clearwater and key west so if there is any real help i sure could use it thanks again:USA:

[XtremeRacing]

George,
Anything I can do let me know be happy to do what i can.

Your old friend ...Frank

[TYPHOON]

I am so sorry people, After some phone calls it looks like I can not make it with the black boat. Possably sticking it with Bruce if he can use me. united we race just got tossed in the toliet again.
MD

[XtremeRacing]

Randy,

That would be great if you can team up with Bruce,,looking forward to seeing you all in Sarasora.

[XtremeRacing]

George look what you did you scared Randy off...lol

Enough of this BS ...whos buying the first round of drinks?

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Randy,
I hope you find a way to make it. I understand it is difficult to change plans on short notice. It is much easier for those who live near by.

I know its a 5k weekend to attend. So no one should second guess such a decision with out offering assistance.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

George look what you did you scared Randy off...lol

Enough of this BS ...whos buying the first round of drinks?

Well you should BIG SHOW. I'll get the second round:biggrinjester:

[XtremeRacing]

Jim
Sounds good...let's get this party started! First rounds on me....
See ya in Sarasota.

[Steve Miklos]

Hey Steve , why didn't you run in Sunny Isles on Sunday?

I wanted too but had told them long ago I had prior commitments. Saddly this is a small part of what I do these days. I do enjoy it but have other hobbies and obligations. I did offer to let Gary and Jeff run that boat and pay all cost as I have in LOTO also. I do not kid myself you can only get so excited about this these days.

Steve

[Steve Miklos]

Just want to make it clear that Randy will come to Sarasota on the condition that Steve and I come to Loto. I spoke to Steve and he is not thrilled about going to Loto. Hopefully, he'll change his mind. If Randy doesn't come to Sarasota, I will not be in Loto either. Lets make a deal boyz.

As I said on the call if I wanted to lake race I would have an F1 tunnel boat team. Racing an offshore boat in seas measured in inches does not excite me.
Steve

[Steve Miklos]

I don't understand if everyone was on a budget from OSS to race the national circuit and didn't go to Sunny Isles because OSS pulled out then why wouldn't they replace Sunny Isles with Sarasota????? I think Steve was the only SVL that was there. Sarasota has been good to racing for over twenty years and I think they deserve our support no matter what circuit you follow.

Brett
Thanks but you must understand they (most of the current SVL teams) do not have a budget. I was told they cannot pay entrance fees as they cannot afford it? I understand being on a tight budget but I am sure know one here works for free. After what I heard tonite SVL is dead. The boats have found their way into the hands of people who think you get paid to race offshore.
Funny stuff, dream on!
Steve

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

You are something else.

[SVL66]

ok...well i guess its just the three of us.

[Steve Miklos]

You are something else.

Why, because I point out the obvious?
Steve

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Low fees plays a big part a OPA's success. Not everyone is loaded. Most of SVL is made up of working people. Maybe more boats would attend if some concessions were made.

What concessions are going to be made to get boats in subsequent races? At the sites with consistent LOW attendance. Sarasota is a great site with a rich history why not help enable more to show.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Why, because I point out the obvious?
Steve

No , its more you attitude.

[SVL66]

hey Dunbar 104. Since Randy Declined, My offer is open to you. I'll pay your entry and Equip reg. if you come to Sarasota

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Bruce, I am sure they will appreciate that.

I certainly do. Thanks.

[XtremeRacing]

Bruce,

Well there you go Bruce has stepped up to the plate again.

[Steve Miklos]

Low fees plays a big part a OPA's success. Not everyone is loaded. Most of SVL is made up of working people. Maybe more boats would attend if some concessions were made.

What concessions are going to be made to get boats in subsequent races? At the sites with consistent LOW attendance. Sarasota is a great site with a rich history why not help enable more to show.

I would suspect none.
You guys are waiting on the tooth fairy.
Smitty is doing great but he is working for free as I am sure others are at OPA. Why do you expect people to work for free so you can race on the cheap?
How is that even fair?
How can you think that is sustainable?
Reality is a racing sanctioning body needs to charge fees plain and simple. Who ever said this was cheap sport?
Fee's for offshore have always been there except the last few years and as you can see it is not sustainable.
It takes money to put on a race!
Steve

[ThrottleUp Props]

hey Dunbar 104. Since Randy Declined, My offer is open to you. I'll pay your entry and Equip reg. if you come to Sarasota

That's quite an offer Bruce, very nice!

I hope the Dunbars can make it. Sarasota is one of two must race sites, the other, of course, is KW.

[SVL66]

I agree w/ Steve

When I first started racing, We had to pay entry fees. We never expected to win much. But we kept racing.

Bottom line...you have to pay to play.

[XtremeRacing]

I agree with Bruce we have always done it for the Love of the sport.

[Dunbar 104]

Bruce thanks for the offer, but I will have to decline.

[DAREDEVIL]

OK,,,,,,FOOD IS ON ME !!!!!!!! My wife is a real good german cook ,,u can't say no to that now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And i mean food for all the days u are here !!!!!

Thursday,Friday,Saturday,Sunday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:USA:

[XtremeRacing]

Mark what else can we do to help to make it happen, or is it just a time thing with work?

[Dunbar 104]

Just can't get in boat racer mode.

I do change my mind about every 5 minutes

[SVL66]

Oh cmon now ...Steve needs to be beaten on his turf before he retires. You guys are just the ones to do it.

Get into the MODE

[ThrottleUp Props]

C'mon Mark, this is a great oppotunity to beat up on Steve! Might have to wait til KW otherwise. Sarasota is second only to KW for spectators. I'm not sure about this year but in the past the race has been televised live on the local Sarasota news channel.

Steve has never been beat by a girl before, here's your chance!!!!!

[XtremeRacing]

Oh boy Julie dont go there, Steve would never live that down::))) LOL

[Dunbar 104]

That did force the Kostilacas/ Wildride into retirement.

[XtremeRacing]

That did force the Kostilacas/ Wildride into retirement.

You keep that up there won't be an SVL left.

[Phantom1]

Sarasota is a special place for me. My first race in 1995 was there and my last race in 2001 was there. It's good to see you guys making the effort to save the class. I had a hell of a lot of fun in SVL way back when......

Very nice gesture to help with fees Bruce!

[XtremeRacing]

I think everyone is trying their best to put on a great show. Some of the battle in SVL have been awesome....

[DAREDEVIL]

JENNY,JENNY,JENNY,JENNY,JENNY,JENNY,JENNY,,,,ok a little Mark i can hear the crowds already !!!!:boobflash:

[Steve Miklos]

Oh cmon now ...Steve needs to be beaten on his turf before he retires. You guys are just the ones to do it.

Get into the MODE

I am much more concerened with you and Jay. I have seen this boat's setup and it is not setup to run an Offshore event. Sarasota is not lake racing.
Steve

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Bruce thanks for the offer, but I will have to decline.

:boxing_smiley:

[Sean Stinson]

:beatdeadhorse5::beatdeadhorse5::beatdeadhorse5::beatdeadhorse5:
:leaving::leaving::bump::bump::bump::moon:

[SVL66]

I am much more concerened with you and Jay. I have seen this boat's setup and it is not setup to run an Offshore event. Sarasota is not lake racing.
Steve


Shhhhh....you dont want to scare them away ...do you?

[Dunbar 104]

If the offer still stands Were In.

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

:USA::cheers2::USA:


:party:

[Wardey]

Great !!! Glad to hear this. You won't be sorry. Sarasota is one of the best race sites ever and the people are great also. Look's like I will be leaving Quantico Marine Base early so I can get down to Sarasota !!! Dave

[SVL66]

Ok...thats 4. WHO'S NEXT?

[ThrottleUp Props]

Glad to hear!!!!!!!!!

If you or Bruce need something we are on the way down and we will do anything we can.


:party::party:

[Phantom1]

Congratulations guys. Go show everyone that SVL is the class of the classes.

This will be the first race in two years that I actually want to go to.

[Wardey]

Congratulations guys. Go show everyone that SVL is the class of the classes.

This will be the first race in two years that I actually want to go to.

If Mike's going....I have to make it down !!! I think he owes me some beers.:sifone: Dave

[Ratickle]

Congratulations guys. Go show everyone that SVL is the class of the classes.

This will be the first race in two years that I actually want to go to.

Isn't there a boat out there you can get your hands on????:)

[Phantom1]

If Mike's going....I have to make it down !!! I think he owes me some beers.:sifone: Dave

If I was going, I would most certainly buy you a few beers!

[DAREDEVIL]

If the offer still stands Were In.

Lets get this PARTY started !!!!! :26:


The cook is informed !!! She just told me ,,that leaves less for me .LOL

[Wardey]

If I was going, I would most certainly buy you a few beers!

and vice-versa !!!:biggrinjester:Dave

[imco offshore]

Glad to hear!!!!!!!!!

If you or Bruce need something we are on the way down and we will do anything we can.


:party::party:

what about me :confused::confused:

[SVL66]

Glad to hear!!!!!!!!!

If you or Bruce need something we are on the way down and we will do anything we can.


:party::party:

Make me a prop to beat these knuckleheads:biggrinjester:

[imco offshore]

:sifone: i,v got a great 28 you can use :sifone:

[Phantom1]

Isn't there a boat out there you can get your hands on????:)

I met a lot of good friends, laughed and smiled a lot, didn't end up divorced, bankrupt or injured, but my racing days are over.

[Steve Miklos]

Let's do it!
Steve

[Sean Stinson]

My man!!!!

[XtremeRacing]

Now your talking, looks like we have a class and a race. The fans in Sarasota r in for a treat...

[XtremeRacing]

Any signs of Randy surfacing ????????????

[imco offshore]

:03:ladys and gentelmen looks like we got our self,s a race, it would be nice if we could get travis and bob with one of their boats mr, dave could be their moral support this race ? :driving:

[ThrottleUp Props]

Any signs of Randy surfacing ????????????

If I recall correctly the last time Typhoon raced in Sarasota Randy wasn't there. Glenn and Jay ran the Typhoon F1 boat.

I think Randy is due for a Sarasota race. Randy, your fans want to see you race in Sarasota this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sarasota just isn't the same without the Dog Pound.

Come on MD.

[XtremeRacing]

George,
Has anyone spoke to Travis, or Bob ??

[DAREDEVIL]

Damn ,,,now i wish i had a SVL.:drool5:

But ,,,,,oh well.............The DAREDEVIL WE BE OK IN P-4 for now !!!

Stay tuned and this is just AWSOME.
Can't wait to see u guys there.


Jenny and Mark,,i hope SCHNITZEL and Currywurst is ok. LOL

German food ,,,,very good and german CHEESECACKE for all.

She is going to kill me now .HEHE

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Scotti,

Perfect avatar.

Its your home town race. Are you ready?

[DAREDEVIL]

Scotti,

Perfect avatar.

Its your home town race. Are you ready?

Yes,,,,READY !!!!!!!!!! i hope. lol

Hey jim ,,,even i don't like u that much ,hehe i have a piece of cacke for u too .

LOL:biggrinjester:

[imco offshore]

frank , we had a conference call last night , i think bob is thinking on how to make it happen? frank i,v been asked these questions .#1 how do we start , i answered as follows ! like we have for the last 10 years all lined up side by side every body was happy. #2 how much do we weigh ? answer like the class was built 4750# again every body happy #3 do we run two little races ( heats) i answered " no " they thro the green and you race to the checkerd. like every other class, again, everybodys happy i hope i answered these correct ,,, were going to have a great race!

[XtremeRacing]

George,
Not sure exactly about the weight, I know you guys made some changes over the winter. I know before the change this yr. SBI and OSS where the same. If you guys as a class decide the weight that works for u so u guys dont have to make changes I'm sure JC would be fine with that.
# 1-3 are correct.
What weight do u guys race at now ??
On the start the pace boat will be to the outside of the track...your Starboard side (right) and when the race goes green the pace boat will turn to its starboard (Hard Right)

[DAREDEVIL]

Make me a prop to beat these knuckleheads:biggrinjester:

Not that this is my fight,,,,but is Bruce the all mighty scared LOL ??!!:rofl:

[stevequick]

Nice work everyone. I suspect Sarasota will give the CBS crew enough footage for a few shows. To anyone who has never experienced the parade, don't miss it and bring something to give the crowd. SQ

[Steve Miklos]

Weight was 4750. I would think that is what it will be.
Steve

[imco offshore]

great, i believe that is what the other guys would like , man this race can,t get here soon enough for me . what is the dates for clearwater ?

[Pat D]

Not that this is my fight,,,,but is Bruce the all mighty scared LOL ??!!:rofl:

It's your fight now sweetheart.....:biggrinjester: please, could you two make it to registration together....I wanna be there for the group hug:):):)
(I apologize for interrupting such a great thread)

[TYPHOON]

George I was on that call as well and didnt get the same impression as you. I could be wrong. Maybe you are talking about the teams going to the SBI race? You and Bruce may like it that way. Bruce's boat is a little fat and would think he might like the idea of the 4850lb rule. I just dont want to confuse
people with the OSS rules and the SBI rules.

[imco offshore]

well randy there lies the problem ALL svl rules NEED to be the same so svl can go anywhere they need without a lot fo work if two org,s have differant rules now you have made that boat specific to ONE org. and that is not good for the class in a whole. the class always was 4750 and built on 4750 even when they were A BOATS . I OWNED the heavest svl in history and after determination to be competitave i,v been penelizied for being too light. so anybody that wants to be competitive CAN do.it # 2 i think the extra weight in sarasota is going to be an advantage. the only reason weight comes into play is when you race on lakes and rivers. people with balast will have a great advantage over me i know they will load and unload and i cant do it because i choose to remove my balast so i could be competitive in these conditions. now i will have to pay , my bad?

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

No worries George ... Just let her eat.:sifone:

[SVL66]

George I was on that call as well and didnt get the same impression as you. I could be wrong. Maybe you are talking about the teams going to the SBI race? You and Bruce may like it that way. Bruce's boat is a little fat and would think he might like the idea of the 4850lb rule. I just dont want to confuse
people with the OSS rules and the SBI rules.

FAT?....look whos talkin!!!!


Im NOT FAT!!!!!.....just a little plump. And Im ok with 4750 for now. Im not gonna butcher my boat up to make weight. I know there are things I can do to get lighter and more competitive. Im just too cheap to spend the cash to get there. As far as a group hug at registration goes.....I dont think so.

[Sean Stinson]

:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

As far as a group hug at registration goes.....I dont think so.

I won't be huggin anybody..



except maybe Jenni

[TYPHOON]

The way we race at OSS with the rules we have now was to grow the class! It was decided as a class that if we race with a 2x2 start and if we do heat races it would help encourage new teams to race and give them a shot at doing well. It was for the betterment of the class as a whole to help it grow and not for 1 or 2 teams to dominate and have teams quit because they felt they had no shot. Has it worked? At one time it was the best thing going.Now the class is light.
MD

[Steve Miklos]

well randy there lies the problem ALL svl rules NEED to be the same so svl can go anywhere they need without a lot fo work if two org,s have differant rules now you have made that boat specific to ONE org. and that is not good for the class in a whole. the class always was 4750 and built on 4750 even when they were A BOATS . I OWNED the heavest svl in history and after determination to be competitave i,v been penelizied for being too light. so anybody that wants to be competitive CAN do.it # 2 i think the extra weight in sarasota is going to be an advantage. the only reason weight comes into play is when you race on lakes and rivers. people with balast will have a great advantage over me i know they will load and unload and i cant do it because i choose to remove my balast so i could be competitive in these conditions. now i will have to pay , my bad?


Actually the A weight was 4500 lbs. I raised in in 2001 (before I raced SVL) to 4750 as the SSM Phantom boats were about 5000lbs. Before anyone cries foul I can weigh 4500!
Steve

[Sean Stinson]

Actually the A weight was 4500 lbs. I raised in in 2001 (before I raced SVL) to 4750 as the SSM Phantom boats were about 5000lbs. Before anyone cries foul I can weigh 4500!
Steve

I gotta hear this one bro!!!

[XtremeRacing]

Randy,George

Like I said in an earlier post what ever the teams as a class vote on and decide (4750/4850) I think JC will be fine with it because it is your class.Try to figure it out ASAP and we can let him know.

[DAREDEVIL]

Pat,,,i get fat boy to reg. with me ,,,no worrys .
The group hug is done !!!!!!!!!! :kiss: :USA:


C-YA there Bruce .:seeya:

[DAREDEVIL]

Actually the A weight was 4500 lbs. I raised in in 2001 (before I raced SVL) to 4750 as the SSM Phantom boats were about 5000lbs. Before anyone cries foul I can weigh 4500!
Steve

Steve ,,,that was back when...lol

But it also says, min. weight so u could not been lighter then 4500 in a 29 foot A class boat , but u could be heavier !!!!!!! After the race !

I also tought the heaviest SVL was the Stainless marine Phantom ?!
Not the IMCO boat . LOL

And i think George is right about SVL weight 4750 min. ?!

But hey ,,,,,,LETS PARTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND RACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SARASOTA HERE THEY COME THE BADEST BEST AND ...... the others HEHE

[F1-00 Racing]

I also tought the heaviest SVL was the Stainless marine Phantom ?!
Not the IMCO boat . LOL

And i think George is right about SVL weight 4750 min. ?!




If memory serves me correctly, Stainless was an Extreme that is now known as "Typhoon". As far as who was the heaviest, I dont have a clue. Yes, you are correct that the weight is 4750 in the SBI rulebook, but a change was made over on the OSS side to 4850 and with no SVL's in SBI at the time and almost dismissal of the class(until the latest procedings) SBI did not mess with the rulebook. As Frank said the boats that are SHOWING UP need to get on the same page and let him know as a group what they want. Those sitting on the sidelines should respectfully keep their whining to a minimum.

[DAREDEVIL]

If memory serves me correctly, Stainless was an Extreme that is now known as "Typhoon". As far as who was the heaviest, I dont have a clue. Yes, you are correct that the weight is 4750 in the SBI rulebook, but a change was made over on the OSS side to 4850 and with no SVL's in SBI at the time and almost dismissal of the class(until the latest procedings) SBI did not mess with the rulebook. As Frank said the boats that are SHOWING UP need to get on the same page and let him know as a group what they want. Those sitting on the sidelines should respectfully keep their whining to a minimum.

Sorry if i posted something wrong about the Rules,,,,,ofcoarse its up to them.

But THE OLD STAINLESS BOAT ,,was a PHANTOM !!!!!!!!! the second one was a EXTREME !!!! ( TYPHOON )
Do u remember the purple silver one from Haggin ????? Thats the old one !
And its for sale by the way.

[Dunbar 104]

I was planning on 4750

[TYPHOON]

Is there a scale at the race? Who checks boats weight in and out.
MD

[DAREDEVIL]

Scale on the crane !!!!

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Scotti, who are you going to race?

[imco offshore]

daredevil over on page 4 there are some engine builders talking about tps mas flow ecm superchargers they are having problems with i,m sure they could use your expert advice

[DAREDEVIL]

LOOK u guys,,,i am trying to help . if u dont want my help then just say so .

I just want to have a great time with all of u and make sarasota real huge !!!!

So let me know if i should shut up and i am done .

If u guys would be as helpfull as i am ,,,,then maybe i wouldn't have all these problems that i had in the 2008 season.

And JIM,,,this is all about Sarasota and a BIG RACE ,,,not about each class.

WHATEVER:leaving:

[XtremeRacing]

LOOK u guys,,,i am trying to help . if u dont want my help then just say so .

I just want to have a great time with all of u and make sarasota real huge !!!!

So let me know if i should shut up and i am done .

If u guys would be as helpfull as i am ,,,,then maybe i wouldn't have all these problems that i had in the 2008 season.

And JIM,,,this is all about Sarasota and a BIG RACE ,,,not about each class.

WHATEVER:leaving:

I'm letting u know ...SHUT UP AND BE DONE

[XtremeRacing]

Is there a scale at the race? Who checks boats weight in and out.
MD

Randy,
Not sure if that is a serious question or not?? Wheren't you in KW 3-4 yrs back???

To anwser both your questions:

#1 Is there scales: Sbi uses two cart attacked together like a seesaw ... they put your boat in one and stones in other and try to get as close as they can.

#2 Who cks the boats: Fred Flintstone

[imco offshore]

I'm letting u know ...SHUT UP AND BE DONE

i second that, thanks ! now whats fred flinstone doing.? look were ALL going to have a great time. i feel bad that things didn,t work out as we might have wanted them to. but the cards have been delt it is what it is. NOW we have to make the best of it , i,m very greatfull that someone is willing to give svl,s a second chance, otherwise they would all be setting on trailers.or cut off the tops and end up poker run boats except you can,t take any friends.no room. so lets all get ready to party,, hell i might even drink a beer or two. :03: :willy_nilly::driving::26::bigear::cuss:

[MOBILEMERCMAN]

Margaritas:drool5:

[Steve Miklos]

I have seen 3 scales at SBi two are remote displays one looks to be from APBA all seem real close to me. I went to both on the trailer and got the same weight in KW.
Steve

[TYPHOON]

Thanks Steve. I was serious. I haven't raced with SBI in years and didn't know the procedure at the cranes. I am used to the OSS way of having an official record your weight going in and out being mandatory. I don't know if SBI does it the same way. Sorry if my question offended some of you.
Randy

[stevequick]

It's a fair question Randy. After all the BS that's been spouted you might think SBI estimates weights by eye.
All classes with weight restrictions get weighed in and out EVERY time. No weight no trophy. Our friends Miccosukee weighed light at Morehead City and were penalized per the rulebook.
SQ

[XtremeRacing]

Randy,
Your question wasnt about the procedure, what might of made some scence.
Read you post your question was if there are "SCALES AT THE RACE"
Your question didnt offend anyone one, it was kinda funny for a seasoned racer to ask if there are scales at a race. You offended yourself and hope other racers wont think you lots it asking something like that.
Just in case you wanted to know there are "BOATS AT THE RACE ALSO"

[XtremeRacing]

Steve,
You are really being kind today if you think that was a fair question. You must be getting a little softer these days my friend.
If a board member on OSS doesnt know if SBI uses scales we all have big problems. I guess he could of just asked the 15 OSS boats that were in KW.

[Sean Stinson]

Why do you want to break his balls Frank???? LOL

[Steve Miklos]

I have no problem with it.
I wondered how the scales would b e at SBI compared to what we were used to at APBA. We went early in KW 2006 and they let us try both cranes. We worried if we went in on one and out on the other we may miss on weight or future fuel burn. They were both the same although there was some variation as it was windy.

When we arrived I grabbed the make and models and checked what the O.E.M.had for specifications. The only concern that brought up was they had a broad operating range I think up to 15K Kilo's so on the low end we wondered about sensitivity.

I do not think you will find them any different than what you had at APBA. I would suggest to all teams to weigh in in case there is a difference. Let's settle it on the race course not at the crane!
Steve

[SVL66]

I haven't eaten in 7 days...you guys are in trouble

[Steve Miklos]

I haven't eaten in 7 days...you guys are in trouble

Rut-Roh I bet that Jay will still be "riding on the high side"!
Steve

[XtremeRacing]

I haven't eaten in 7 days...you guys are in trouble

Oh boy he's taking this serious ....you go Rocky:03:

[XtremeRacing]

Why do you want to break his balls Frank???? LOL

Sean,
Its all in good fun I'm sure he knows that.:seeya:

[DAREDEVIL]

i haven't eaten in 7 days...you guys are in trouble

the cheese cacke will take care of that .lol

[imco offshore]

bruce , my wife would like too know if you could bring down some of your salt water taffy from n.j. thanks

[XtremeRacing]

One large real NY/NJ PIZZA would be nice also

[SVL66]

i'll "sea" what I can do. bear in mind, i have a 17 hour drive. i might get hungry along the way

[Ratickle]

i'll "sea" what I can do. bear in mind, i have a 17 hour drive. i might get hungry along the way

Just fill the cockpit, you'll make it with some....:)

[Steve Miklos]

i'll "sea" what I can do. bear in mind, i have a 17 hour drive. i might get hungry along the way

In that case can you bring 2 12 packs of beer ( no light beer please) 3lbs Fettucine Alfredo 2lb bone in Prime Rib and some desserts!

Then Jay will riding really high!
Steve

[Sean Stinson]

One large real NY/NJ PIZZA would be nice also

I will tell you what if you evr get to Orange County Cali....In Costa Mesa on the corner of 17th St and Irvine AV you have to try Al's New York Cafe best Pizza I have ever had and I've had it all coast to coast and border to border!!!

[imco offshore]

:seeya: ok sean then we put in charge of bringing the pizza. jim brings margritas , bruce saltwater taffy , trent beer, daredevil cheese cake, i,ll bring the grill and cook ? if we don,t win, we will still be some fata$$ well feed happy drunks.

[Sean Stinson]

:seeya: ok sean then we put in charge of bringing the pizza. jim brings margritas , bruce saltwater taffy , trent beer, daredevil cheese cake, i,ll bring the grill and cook ? if we don,t win, we will still be some fata$$ well feed happy drunks.

I dont live in Cali anymore but I am sure I can figure out a solution for a substitute!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone:

[Sean Stinson]

Sean,
Its all in good fun I'm sure he knows that.:seeya:

I know it is bro I just had to get my .02 in while I had the chance!!!:sifone::sifone:

[XtremeRacing]

George,
Entry form r on the web site, if you click on the racers packet the form there doesnt have the SVL's. There is a seperate entry form tab you will see that is the updated one for you guys with SVL's on it.
Please guys if you know you r coming please try and help and get your info. in ASAP !
Thanks in advance....

[F1-00 Racing]

George,
Entry form r on the web site, if you click on the racers packet the form there doesnt have the SVL's. There is a seperate entry form tab you will see that is the updated one for you guys with SVL's on it.
Please guys if you know you r coming please try and help and get your info. in ASAP !
Thanks in advance....

Here ya go Frank! It is listed as "Super Vee Ltd"

http://www.superboat.com/docs/6-22-09%20National%20Entry%20Form%20-%20type%20in.pdf

[XtremeRacing]

George,
The equipment forms : Go to home page and click Team Resourse , and the form is listed as 2009 equip membership.

[imco offshore]

ok i will do it now, and i,ll call the others tomorrow and get them to do it. thanks for all you guys help.

[XtremeRacing]

Anytime George we are all working for the same thing.

[Phantom1]

Actually the A weight was 4500 lbs. I raised in in 2001 (before I raced SVL) to 4750 as the SSM Phantom boats were about 5000lbs. Before anyone cries foul I can weigh 4500!
Steve

That was us (Equalizer w/#5) and we appreciated the offer to adjust.

[Phantom1]

I haven't eaten in 7 days...you guys are in trouble

Atta boy......I love it. LOL!!:)

[imco offshore]

:drool5: :drool5:well please don,t start with my saltwater taffy on board

[imco offshore]

George,
Entry form r on the web site, if you click on the racers packet the form there doesnt have the SVL's. There is a seperate entry form tab you will see that is the updated one for you guys with SVL's on it.
Please guys if you know you r coming please try and help and get your info. in ASAP !
Thanks in advance....

we sent it in last night, next it,s showtime!:driving:

[XtremeRacing]

Thanks ...Amyone else that can get them in would be a great help.
George I ordered a 20 x 40 tent so if we want to cook out there,and set up camp. Get out of the heat it is usally hot as a mother there.

[SVL66]

on its way

[ThrottleUp Props]

Mine Too!

Julie