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Bobcat
06-10-2009, 12:20 PM
1993 merc 200, idles fine but dies when you put it in gear ???

Davidmnc
06-10-2009, 12:24 PM
1993 merc 200, idles fine but dies when you put it in gear ???

Loose nut behind the wheel :biggrinjester:

Tony
06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
sputters and dies, or just instantly cuts out?

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 12:57 PM
instantly cuts out ( I think) I couldn't hear over the other outboard, just saw the tach zero out, and lost power steering

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 01:04 PM
and somebody borrowed my muffs so I can't run it off the hose till later!!!!

Chris
06-10-2009, 01:06 PM
Could be an electrical short in the controls

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 01:33 PM
just replaced the battery cables for that motor, have to go look if anything got messed up

tommymonza
06-10-2009, 01:38 PM
Check to see if there is a Cuban wrapped around the propeller.

MOBILEMERCMAN
06-10-2009, 01:45 PM
Is it an EFI? Does the volt meter move when it dies. Is the gearcase locked up?

If it is not an EFI it does not need voltage to run. The key will ground switch box thru Black/yellow wire to kill motor. The spec is 750 max rpm in gear at idle. Is it idling around 8 or 900 in neutral?

MOBILEMERCMAN
06-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Many of the newer motors have a switch mounted on the shift slide bar where cable attaches to motor to interrupt the engine to aid shifting. You can unplug it while you trouble shoot.

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 01:51 PM
the tach is old and hard to read below 2000 rpms, it is a carb motor. (1993)

MOBILEMERCMAN
06-10-2009, 02:00 PM
Usually when it dies when you shift means the idle circuit is not working and likely clogged.
Very often the idle is turned up so that it will run on the main circuit. If that is the case it will die when you shift it. When did it last work properly?

Is fuel puddling in the front of the carbs while it runs?

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 02:07 PM
Usually when it dies when you shift means the idle circuit is not working and likely clogged.
Very often the idle is turned up so that it will run on the main circuit. If that is the case it will die when you shift it. When did it last work properly?

Is fuel puddling in the front of the carbs while it runs?

when trying to restart the fuel puddles because it revs on its own for 3-4 seconds regardless of throttle position.

Davidmnc
06-10-2009, 02:20 PM
The latest edition on Ask Jim..........................................

MOBILEMERCMAN
06-10-2009, 04:47 PM
You should not see fuel puddling in the carb. If you squeeze the bulb while its not running does fuel come out and puddle? It should get get hard and not show fuel. If you can see fuel puddling the floats are dirty or stuck open. If this is the case it will also puddle so you can see it while its running. You should not be able to see fuel.

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 05:25 PM
I'll check tomorrow, thanks Jim.

Geronimo36
06-10-2009, 05:28 PM
You should not see fuel puddling in the carb. If you squeeze the bulb while its not running does fuel come out and puddle? It should get get hard and not show fuel. If you can see fuel puddling the floats are dirty or stuck open. If this is the case it will also puddle so you can see it while its running. You should not be able to see fuel.

Jimmy's on it! I concur!

I had numerous customers who would have the same problem every spring and it was usually this same problem. pump bulb and check for fuel. If there's fuel I would dissasemble carb, soak it overnight, next day assemble and whallah runs like a champ!

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 05:37 PM
Jimmy's on it! I concur!

I had numerous customers who would have the same problem every spring and it was usually this same problem. pump bulb and check for fuel. If there's fuel I would dissasemble carb, soak it overnight, next day assemble and whallah runs like a champ!

the boat sat for three months with steering problems , so this seems like the right fix, I'll find out tomorrow .:)

Tony
06-10-2009, 10:14 PM
Carb kits are somewhere around 10 bucks per at Wholesale Marine. Took maybe 2 hours to remove, rebuild, and reinstall. Motor runs great now.

MOBILEMERCMAN
06-10-2009, 10:19 PM
If it ran right 3 months ago I can of brake clean and a compressor is all you need.

Bobcat
06-10-2009, 10:26 PM
I under stand the brake clean, but the compressor has me stumped, is it just to blow stuff out after the brake cleaner ?

MOBILEMERCMAN
06-10-2009, 10:30 PM
I under stand the brake clean, but the compressor has me stumped, is it just to blow stuff out after the brake cleaner ?

Yes, clean clean clean. The idle passage holes are small. The carbs are pretty simple. It is important to set all the linkages properly when you reassemble it.

Bobcat
06-13-2009, 07:40 PM
:seeya:

MOBILEMERCMAN
06-15-2009, 09:49 PM
Did you get it going? What did you do?

Bobcat
06-16-2009, 08:44 AM
a buddy who is a mechanic found some melted wiring on the right side of the motor,I am waiting on him to go to murray marine to buy replacement wires, I am too sunburned to go out there today and mess with it:ack2:

Ratickle
06-16-2009, 10:08 AM
a buddy who is a mechanic found some melted wiring on the right side of the motor,I am waiting on him to go to murray marine to buy replacement wires, I am too sunburned to go out there today and mess with it:ack2:

Don't be a wuss. Go out there and work on it........:)

Davidmnc
06-16-2009, 10:12 AM
Don't be a wuss. Go out there and work on it........:)

+1 Yea..........what he said!

Dude! Sweet!
06-16-2009, 02:49 PM
Funny, my Yammy was doing nearly the same thing (sans melted wiring) and it turned out to be plugs and a dead coil pack. It would run (terrible) on the hose, but wouldn't run with any load in the water.

Good luck Bob! You're in good hands with Jim! :D