24' cougar cat never rigged

[northernoffshore]

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/boa/1095841480.html found this. when I post deals I find on that other site the members always turn it into dirt.

[Ratickle]

Interesting. Wonder what T2X knows about that hull?

[phragle]

so thats the brochure...how much extra is the boat???

[northernoffshore]

A lot of stuff is hidden in warehouses down here.

[Ted]

That may be one of the American Cougars that Brownie built, I suspect he would know about it, it would be a very cool project to rig that with new technology now.

[inbetween]

That would make a great project! I wish I could. We need to make sure we follow this one. I'd like to watch the progress.

[Ratickle]

That may be one of the American Cougars that Brownie built, I suspect he would know about it, it would be a very cool project to rig that with new technology now.

I'll PM him...

[smokeybandit]

23953

Not the best pic, but here is a similar boat from 1985 KW.

[FastDonzi]

For some stupid reason I can't view the ad, but if it looks like the one in the pic from keywest it's a 27', cougar didn't make any 24' glass cats, only wood.

[Ratickle]

For some stupid reason I can't view the ad, but if it looks like the one in the pic from keywest it's a 27', cougar didn't make any 24' glass cats, only wood.


Here you go....



25 Cougar racing cat - $11500 (englewood)

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Reply to: sale-2a2r8-1095841480@craigslist.org

1989 Cougar cat race boat , never in water , Myco trailer , never rigged , no power , needs paint or graphics , British built kevlar hull , race deck,
100 & mph with twin outboard , own a peice of history ,
Call Dan 941.350.9266

[FastDonzi]

Well that is a good question for Brownie then. I'm almost certain the molds Cougar had here where for a 27' I guess they could have blocked it and made a 25'. I never saw one. I only know of four that they actually made. 1) the original white one (Steve Curtis's First Ride) 2) the one in the keywest pic (Cat-U-Later) 3) Couragous Cat 4) Smokey Cougar (Steve's 2nd ride w/3 2.4's ) someone Ping Brownie and get him on it...

[sterling]

I,ve owned both ,the 25 and the 27 ,they are completely different cats ,as the 25 has the upper deck flares molded ,and the 27 has 2 tunnels/deflectors bolted on the deck that were ment to deflect air/water in front of the engines.
the 27 has no sprayrails/lifting strakes on the running surface(last 10 ft) and no notch built into the sponsons,as the 25 has a 15 inch notch,and lifting strakes in its running surface.

I had 4 x 2,4EFI mercury outboards on that 27 ,and 2 x 2,5 EFI (260)on the 25 .
both were built in Kevlar/glass and extremely strong and stiff.
The 25 ran 112 mph ,and the 27 we kept running out of propellor no matter what we put on ...but we were still doing 8000 rpm with 15x34 and 1,87:1 ratio,we didn,t have any bigger pitched props ,and we could not find lower units with 1,75:1 ,later we took one engine off ,and tried with 3 x 2,4 EFI,and still did 7800 rpm with the 15x34,s

I found the 27 Cougar the ucliest cat ever ,and the 25 was looking a lot better IMO

[Ratickle]

Well that is a good question for Brownie then.

someone Ping Brownie and get him on it...


Brownie said that's after his time. Trying Cougarman

[cougarman]

Brownie said that's after his time. Trying Cougarman

Sorry, i can't help either,.............Be a cool piece though

Jon

[cougarman]

I,ve owned both ,the 25 and the 27 ,they are completely different cats ,as the 25 has the upper deck flares molded ,and the 27 has 2 tunnels/deflectors bolted on the deck that were ment to deflect air/water in front of the engines.
the 27 has no sprayrails/lifting strakes on the running surface(last 10 ft) and no notch built into the sponsons,as the 25 has a 15 inch notch,and lifting strakes in its running surface.

I had 4 x 2,4EFI mercury outboards on that 27 ,and 2 x 2,5 EFI (260)on the 25 .
both were built in Kevlar/glass and extremely strong and stiff.
The 25 ran 112 mph ,and the 27 we kept running out of propellor no matter what we put on ...but we were still doing 8000 rpm with 15x34 and 1,87:1 ratio,we didn,t have any bigger pitched props ,and we could not find lower units with 1,75:1 ,later we took one engine off ,and tried with 3 x 2,4 EFI,and still did 7800 rpm with the 15x34,s

I found the 27 Cougar the ucliest cat ever ,and the 25 was looking a lot better IMO


So is there enough room to take a 25' cahnge it to and IO and put a #6 on it?

If so I may have a friend interested ;-)

Jon

[T2x]

So is there enough room to take a 25' cahnge it to and IO and put a #6 on it?

If so I may have a friend interested ;-)

Jon

A 6 drive????

That's an awful lot of power and weight for that size boat...Think 24 Skater with a little more size. Of course they put big motors in California cats of that size, but those designs eat horsepower with no speed result...This one is different in that regard methinks.

[Ratickle]

A 6 drive????

That's an awful lot of power and weight for that size boat...Think 24 Skater with a little more size. Of course they put big motors in California cats of that size, but those designs eat horsepower with no speed result...This one is different in that regard methinks.

I think it needs 2 T2X's......

And maybe a third to drive.....

[sterling]

The 25 doesnt have a center pod ,or a deflector ,I think the # 6 can be installed if you can add a deflector in front of the drive .
A 25 Talon has about the same dimensions as the 25 Cougar ,but that Talon has a center pod ,and will made it easier for I/O.
I once saw a 25 Daytona with # 6 drive and steel BBC with blower and a B&M 2 speed trans ,that boat wasn,t really deep in the water when sitting at the dock.
Maybe if the #6 is used on the 25 Cougar with a steel BBC ,the engine can be placed a feet or 1,5 ft more up front for balance ?

I was thinking about putting two XR shorties ,with 2 x LS7 engines with lets say around 600 HP each ,this will keep the weight in control ,no deflector needed,and me think that 25 footer will do around 130 mph ??

I still think the 25 is a bargain ,you won,t be dissapointed with its performance ,hope someone buys it and put 2 x 300 XS on the transom

[catmando]

So is there enough room to take a 25' cahnge it to and IO and put a #6 on it?

If so I may have a friend interested ;-)

JonThe Weismann 6 weighs half of what the Merc 6 weighs. Or how about twin Ilmor 725s and their new drives?

[cougarman]

A 6 drive????

That's an awful lot of power and weight for that size boat...Think 24 Skater with a little more size. Of course they put big motors in California cats of that size, but those designs eat horsepower with no speed result...This one is different in that regard methinks.


Yes just like this 25' Talon,........the only one ever built by Rob Wilkens
of Talon for Rod Tschiggfrie. Not Talon Hustler.


Jon

[Ryan Beckley]

Rob Wilkens at TALON never moved ANYTHING but paper at Talon. Gary Armington built EVER Talon that was ever designed or built and still runs Talon today. Rob was a nice guy and the office manager...

I am not far from englewood if anyone wants me to go look at this boat, I will.

[Dude! Sweet!]

Yes just like this 25' Talon,........the only one ever built by Rob Wilkens
of Talon for Rod Tschiggfrie. Not Talon Hustler.


Jon

What's the story with that giant crazy lookin' blower?


And this boat is driving me nuts ("a pirate walks into a bar with a ship's wheel sticking out of his pants")... I feel like I've seen pictures of it somewhere recently, but can't remember where. I'll keep looking...

[cougarman]

Rob Wilkens at TALON never moved ANYTHING but paper at Talon. Gary Armington built EVER Talon that was ever designed or built and still runs Talon today. Rob was a nice guy and the office manager...

I am not far from englewood if anyone wants me to go look at this boat, I will.


Ryan I can only go by what Rod Tschiggfrie told me as this conversation was only two days ago on the phone. Friend of mine is interested in the Talon
And Rod Tschiggfrie Stated that Rob Wilkens designed the boat when Rod Tschiggfrie ordered the build in 1994. The lay-up, stinger's, and transom
were different due to being built around a #6,........rather than modified
after the fact like most boats.

So anyways Rod Tschiggfrie, said Rob Wilkens would be worth looking up depending how much more info was wanted on the entire boat.

Rod Tschiggfrie as said at that time ( 1994 ) the entire boat was all built by
Women,........because they pay better attension to detail when laying the boats up.

Again this is what he personally told me right or wrong.

Thanks
Jon

[cougarman]

What's the story with that giant crazy lookin' blower?



Rod Tschiggfrie used to due allot of development with Horse Power.
He also own's the 40' Skater Scorcerer with the 2000 hp power plants.

www.racecrafters.biz


Jon

[Ryan Beckley]

Rob Wilkens ran the office / business TALON IS Gary Armington. Most of the girls that worked at Talon also layed up Phantoms and now work at Yellowfin. Gary works on EVERY Talon built. Rob answered the phones & I NEVER saw him get dirty.

[cougarman]

Rob Wilkens ran the office / business TALON IS Gary Armington. Most of the girls that worked at Talon also layed up Phantoms and now work at Yellowfin. Gary works on EVERY Talon built. Rob answered the phones & I NEVER saw him get dirty.

Well Gary Armington diffinetly builds a very nice craft!

Thanks for the additional info,..........not to get to side tracked from the cougar.


Jon

[tommyj]

Women laying up boats is hot:drool5:

[2TR]

Women laying up boats is hot:drool5:

A naked Women laying on a boat is hoter. :_boobies:




:biggrinjester:

[Jamie B.]

Rob Wilkens ran the office / business TALON IS Gary Armington. Most of the girls that worked at Talon also layed up Phantoms and now work at Yellowfin. Gary works on EVERY Talon built. Rob answered the phones & I NEVER saw him get dirty.

Geeez Ryan, did Rob pizz in your Wheaties at one time or what ?! Ok, we get that Rob was a suit ! :biggrinjester:

Now back to the Cougar. :)

[crazyclyde]

I know this is an old thread but is the 25 Cougar still available, I know of one here in NJ rigged with twin 2.4's, always liked them but could never find much info on them. Looking for a project this winter.

[phragle]

A naked Women laying on a boat is hoter. :_boobies:




:biggrinjester:


If a girl is doing glasswork naked...she is not going to be a happy camper.... just sayin....

[MarylandMark]

He also own's the 40' Skater Scorcerer with the 2000 hp power plants.


http://www.sorcererboating.com/images/Specs.htm
:)

Ok, back to this boat now. Cool stuff!

[PJC]

Hey I built the moulds for this back in 1988, the first boats were built for the UIM 4 litre class but several were made for 6 litre and many procuced for pleasure, any chance of some pictures of this boat that is for sale.

It was very differant design to the Sportcat 27 which I see also talked about

[txriverrat2001]

Ya'll said Cougar Cat - and this comes to mind....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-dlAZ9L4d0

[imco offshore]

Ya'll said Cougar Cat - and this comes to mind....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-dlAZ9L4d0

that boy has been on the pipe toooo long...