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h2oMag
03-28-2009, 12:02 AM
This 38' Scarab is on craigslist now for $6500.00 or less ?? http://porthuron.craigslist.org/boa/1091171787.html It seams to have most of the parts, and looks to be a better deal than the Mirage record holder. :sifone:
phragle
03-28-2009, 12:26 AM
slightly...when you see a wellcraft advertised that says "may need a little transom work" it's probably time to completely gut it, redo all the stringers and transom.....
h2oMag
03-28-2009, 02:22 AM
But Its at least fresh water soggy !!!!! :rofl: And its YELLOW " :03:
phragle
03-28-2009, 06:20 AM
But Its at least fresh water soggy !!!!! :rofl: And its YELLOW " :03:

it looks like they started the yellow at the stern, then ran out when they were almost done....
Chris
03-28-2009, 08:12 AM
Looks like the first step in owning a $90,000.00 '80 Scarab. :)

Restos are great fun and very satisfying. But not cheap. Guys look at a low number like that and fail to add up all the bits and parts they're going to have to hunt down and buy to put it together. The $90K was sort of a joke, but maybe not too far off...
Ratickle
03-28-2009, 08:14 AM
This 38' Scarab is on craigslist now for $6500.00 or less ?? http://porthuron.craigslist.org/boa/1091171787.html It seams to have most of the parts, and looks to be a better deal than the Mirage record holder. :sifone:

I think that is a good find. I'll get some guys on it.
ygrowup
03-28-2009, 08:42 AM
But Its at least fresh water soggy !!!!! :rofl: And its YELLOW " :03:

Was prolly a lot faster when non-yellow!......Cobo Hell / Detroit '81
Scarab KV
03-28-2009, 08:42 AM
:huh: Why would you do the paint first??
Scarab KV
03-28-2009, 08:45 AM
Was prolly a lot faster when non-yellow!......Cobo Hell / Detroit '81

Good eye. Nice pic:sifone:
Ratickle
03-28-2009, 08:47 AM
Isn't there something in the VIN number that you can tell if it's a Kevlar hull or not? The trailer says it would be.
Scarab KV
03-28-2009, 08:53 AM
Isn't there something in the VIN number that you can tell if it's a Kevlar hull or not? The trailer says it would be.


Noth'n in the VIN. You would need the build sheet. Not sure if all KAAMAs were Kevlar hulls. Good question for Mike J
Ratickle
03-28-2009, 09:20 AM
Noth'n in the VIN. You would need the build sheet. Not sure if all KAMMAs were Kevlar hulls. Good question for Mike J

We need to know....
Scarab KV
03-28-2009, 09:39 AM
We need to know....

I'll get right on that:sifone:
h2oMag
03-28-2009, 10:04 PM
Was prolly a lot faster when non-yellow!......Cobo Hell / Detroit '81

Big Wave how did you find that ??? :cheers2: Have you ever been to Cobo:rofl:
Scarab KV
03-29-2009, 12:49 AM
Rat....looks like Kevlar was an option. I have a Wellcraft brochure from 1981 and it mentions that wellcraft has introduced a special edition Scarab kaama. It is a flush deck version of the 377 with side by side engines. A kevlar hull may also be ordered. The picture of the boat says "Kaama Special edition" on the side of the hull and the boat has the race hatches.
Ratickle
03-29-2009, 07:57 AM
Rat....looks like Kevlar was an option. I have a Wellcraft brochure from 1981 and it mentions that wellcraft has introduced a special edition Scarab kaama. It is a flush deck version of the 377 with side by side engines. A kevlar hull may also be ordered. The picture of the boat says "Kaama Special edition" on the side of the hull and the boat has the race hatches.

Gettin closer....
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 09:01 AM
Was prolly a lot faster when non-yellow!......Cobo Hell / Detroit '81

Thats the same boat ??
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 09:12 AM
Noth'n in the VIN. You would need the build sheet. Not sure if all KAAMAs were Kevlar hulls. Good question for Mike J

All Wellcrafts made of kevlar had the word KEVLAR under the HIN number in same fonts.

Iīve witnessed a few personally, even a 34 Ninja like that and the Kevlar in them was just some little reinforcements and nothing to the degree of a LS Scarab.
Gus Anastasia stated himself once that the Kevlar in Wellcrafts was justabout a sales trick any weight one could shed by opting kevlar on Wellcraft Scarab wasnīt more than 500lbs tops and this is from Anastasia himself.
Ratickle
03-29-2009, 09:17 AM
All Wellcrafts made of kevlar had the word KEVLAR under the HIN number in same fonts.

Iīve witnessed a few personally, even a 34 Ninja like that and the Kevlar in them was just some little reinforcements and nothing to the degree of a LS Scarab.
Gus Anastasia stated himself once that the Kevlar in Wellcrafts was justabout a sales trick any weight one could shed by opting kevlar on Wellcraft Scarab wasnīt more than 500lbs tops and this is from Anastasia himself.

Back then, since they didn't vacuum bag yet, wasn't it more strength than weight?
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 09:28 AM
Back then, since they didn't vacuum bag yet, wasn't it more strength than weight?

Well depends on the maker.
Overhere no.. it was for weight savings thru the strenght.
Back then they did vacuum bag already here.

But I understand what you mean and for that the answer is yes.
Ratickle
03-29-2009, 09:39 AM
Well depends on the maker.
Overhere no.. it was for weight savings thru the strenght.
Back then they did vacuum bag already here.

But I understand what you mean and for that the answer is yes.

Now I also need to know if Kevlar Scarabs were vacuum bagged that year.
Scarab KV
03-29-2009, 10:14 AM
All Wellcrafts made of kevlar had the word KEVLAR under the HIN number in same fonts.

Iīve witnessed a few personally, even a 34 Ninja like that and the Kevlar in them was just some little reinforcements and nothing to the degree of a LS Scarab.
Gus Anastasia stated himself once that the Kevlar in Wellcrafts was justabout a sales trick any weight one could shed by opting kevlar on Wellcraft Scarab wasnīt more than 500lbs tops and this is from Anastasia himself.

That wasn't protocal for Kevlar. Mine isn't stamped, but was optioned on my build sheet. It was no big secret that it was just reinforcements. The price point on anything more would've taken the boats out of customers budgets. Shedding 500 lbs on a 9,000 lbs plus boat was still a 5% weight difference.
phragle
03-29-2009, 10:43 AM
you could shed 500 lbs by leaving the fat chick on the dock....
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 10:44 AM
Now I also need to know if Kevlar Scarabs were vacuum bagged that year.

I bet they ainīt still to this day...
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 10:45 AM
you could shed 500 lbs by leaving the fat chick on the dock....

+1... among other things...
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 10:48 AM
That wasn't protocal for Kevlar. Mine isn't stamped, but was optioned on my build sheet. It was no big secret that it was just reinforcements. The price point on anything more would've taken the boats out of customers budgets. Shedding 500 lbs on a 9,000 lbs plus boat was still a 5% weight difference.


Youīre the first one actually verifying that some boats didnīt get stamped.
Thanks.

guess Scarabs were made at such a pace that some work processes just didnīt always go like planned...
h2oMag
03-29-2009, 11:01 AM
Noth'n in the VIN. You would need the build sheet. Not sure if all KAAMAs were Kevlar hulls. Good question for Mike J

My old 1982 KV was not Kevlar, just made with heavy good old resin & glass. With twin 454cu 400hp's she was a great 55mph wave crusher.
Scarab KV
03-29-2009, 12:56 PM
you could shed 500 lbs by leaving the fat chick on the dock....

If I leave her behind, what are people gonna stare at.....the boat?:biggrinjester:
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 02:32 PM
My old 1982 KV was not Kevlar, just made with heavy good old resin & glass. With twin 454cu 400hp's she was a great 55mph wave crusher.

And your old boat is Stunning ! Been looking at those pics before too and what can one say..the buyer sure is happy.
MikeyFIN
03-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Anyone know the speeds of Kaamas/KV with different setups... like how much did SSM3/3A/5īs help with the 420īs etc ?

One boat I know of did with the 420īs and TRSes around 60+mph, a 38KV MV. Arch included :-) and the UGLY running lights