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Ratickle
03-20-2009, 02:08 PM
Here's T2x's namesake?




http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercury-Racing-Twister-T2-Vintage-Racing-Engine_W0QQitemZ140308956344QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBoat_Parts_Accessories_Gear? hash=item140308956344&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Dude! Sweet!
03-20-2009, 03:18 PM
Saw that last night. Looks MEAN!

Ratickle
03-20-2009, 03:51 PM
Saw that last night. Looks MEAN!

Love to stick it on my 10'

Davidmnc
03-20-2009, 03:58 PM
Love to stick it on my 10'

That thing lookd look! What size is that little Merc on it, and how fast is it. I bet it's a bast to drive! :26:

Perlmudder
03-20-2009, 04:00 PM
that thing is cool! how much power do you guys think it makes?

Ratickle
03-20-2009, 04:01 PM
That thing lookd look! What size is that little Merc on it, and how fast is it. I bet it's a bast to drive! :26:

It's a modified old, pull start, 50. Runs in the high 50's/low60's depending on prop and water conditions. Can be stuffed in 1 to 2's.:)

Ratickle
03-20-2009, 04:02 PM
that thing is cool! how much power do you guys think it makes?

I believe they were a modified 150 to start with. Hope Brownie or T2x gets on here. Only 4 more days on the auction.

Perlmudder
03-20-2009, 04:11 PM
It's a modified old, pull start, 50. Runs in the high 50's/low60's depending on prop and water conditions. Can be stuffed in 1 to 2's.:)

that has to be a scary ride!! sounds fun!:sifone:

Ratickle
03-20-2009, 04:12 PM
that has to be a scary ride!! sounds fun!:sifone:

Got stuck in like real big 2 to 3's once. Thought I was a gonner for sure:sifone:

MarylandMark
03-20-2009, 05:03 PM
It comes with a T2X cowl in fair conditon

That should double the price right there!

Ratickle
03-20-2009, 05:06 PM
It comes with a T2X cowl in fair conditon

That should double the price right there!

That's better condition than our T2X:):):):)

cosmic12
03-20-2009, 09:09 PM
I have got in my watch list. Where is T2 when you need him?

Ratickle
03-20-2009, 09:44 PM
I have got in my watch list. Where is T2 when you need him?

I sent him a note.

T2x
03-21-2009, 12:51 PM
I sent him a note.


First of all its a T2...not a T2x...... It is a great buy at the current bid, but I doubt that the owner will let it go for that...$610.

The HP on a true T2 was between 165-175...depending on build date and such. The best T2x's got up to about 200 hp....not bad for 99 cu.in.


T2x

Ratickle
03-21-2009, 01:31 PM
First of all its a T2...not a T2x...... It is a great buy at the current bid, but I doubt that the owner will let it go for that...$610.

The HP on a true T2 was between 165-175...depending on build date and such. The best T2x's got up to about 200 hp....not bad for 99 cu.in.


T2x

So it's a T2 with a T2X cowling? Do you know the dimensions or where I can find them? And are the parts it needs available?

rschap1
03-22-2009, 07:57 AM
Quite the lower unit on that motor!

Madpoodle
03-22-2009, 09:28 AM
Up to 1,777.00, still has not made reserve...

Ratickle
03-22-2009, 10:54 AM
Up to 1,777.00, still has not made reserve...

Yeah I'm watching too. Wish I knew the weight and specs etc. Probably be a certain death on the 10' though.

T2x
03-23-2009, 08:33 AM
? And are the parts it needs available?

Parts are the problem.....you can't find even timing belts.... I suggest that this motor is a display engine and I would not run it..... These things need rings at between 1 and 6 hour intervals...depending on RPM range.

T2x

T2x
03-23-2009, 08:36 AM
Quite the lower unit on that motor!

It's a standard length SSM......15"

The T2x motors were shorter and had a 12" SSM...( actually more like 11").

The T2x also had adjustable engine height which required manual power from a speed wrench at the top of the center section. Adjustment range was about 1.5" and took seconds to change. The T2 had a standard outboard bracket and swivel with external trim. The T2x had through transom trim built in.

T2x

Ratickle
03-23-2009, 08:40 AM
Thanks T2x. Appreciate the info. Guess it's not an option for what I was thinking. Outstanding looking piece, though. You must have really enjoyed running them.

I have a friend who's looking at buying a SST45 boat and getting started. My wife won't let get back in, afraid I'll kill myself.....

T2x
03-23-2009, 10:22 AM
Twister 1...3 carb side exhaust....first Twister AKA "T-1"

Captnmike
03-23-2009, 10:45 AM
If someone wants me to take a look at it for them, give me a call. I'm only 20 mins north of Port St Lucie
Mike
734-777-1878

7xchamp
03-23-2009, 11:12 AM
Twister 1...3 carb side exhaust....first Twister AKA "T-1"

Also known as a silo motor which was built out of Oshkosh engineering, Bob Morgan was in charge, he built the first prototypes, then Dave Bair and I built the rest. Later the bottom of the manifold was opened up and we bolted on open exhaust nicknammed cow bells, those were really cool motors. Remember Bair and I worked for Garbrecht at 20 wisconsin street in Oshkosh which was the OPC racing division. All the power head serial numbers from that era either started with DB or RP. That was when we had Bob Herring, Tom Stickle, Mike Downard, and Jim Merten as full time employees. Sub contract we had Sirois, Habe, Pruitt, Miles, Clark, percival,Molinari,Wilson, John Henry, Fountain, etc. Those were the days. Parker, Miami nationals, Havasau, Paris, Chasewater, etc etc etc. Great days great friends, sadly many lost their lives, or became crippled from those racing days.

Ratickle
03-23-2009, 03:50 PM
Also known as a silo motor which was built out of Oshkosh engineering, Bob Morgan was in charge, he built the first prototypes, then Dave Bair and I built the rest. Later the bottom of the manifold was opened up and we bolted on open exhaust nicknammed cow bells, those were really cool motors. Remember Bair and I worked for Garbrecht at 20 wisconsin street in Oshkosh which was the OPC racing division. All the power head serial numbers from that era either started with DB or RP. That was when we had Bob Herring, Tom Stickle, Mike Downard, and Jim Merten as full time employees. Sub contract we had Sirois, Habe, Pruitt, Miles, Clark, percival,Molinari,Wilson, John Henry, Fountain, etc. Those were the days. Parker, Miami nationals, Havasau, Paris, Chasewater, etc etc etc. Great days great friends, sadly many lost their lives, or became crippled from those racing days.

It is sad, but we all owe them a debt for bringing us this far. Wish we had the old group with the new equipment sometimes. All of us respected what you guys accomplished.

Steve 1
03-23-2009, 09:15 PM
Also known as a silo motor which was built out of Oshkosh engineering, Bob Morgan was in charge, he built the first prototypes, then Dave Bair and I built the rest. Later the bottom of the manifold was opened up and we bolted on open exhaust nicknammed cow bells, those were really cool motors. Remember Bair and I worked for Garbrecht at 20 wisconsin street in Oshkosh which was the OPC racing division. All the power head serial numbers from that era either started with DB or RP. That was when we had Bob Herring, Tom Stickle, Mike Downard, and Jim Merten as full time employees. Sub contract we had Sirois, Habe, Pruitt, Miles, Clark, percival,Molinari,Wilson, John Henry, Fountain, etc. Those were the days. Parker, Miami nationals, Havasau, Paris, Chasewater, etc etc etc. Great days great friends, sadly many lost their lives, or became crippled from those racing days.

Wilson ! Dave Wilson?

Audiofn
03-23-2009, 11:55 PM
Love these motors!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=48408900

Ratickle
03-23-2009, 11:57 PM
Love these motors!!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=48408900

Nice, wonder what oil mix ratio he was using?

Scarab KV
03-24-2009, 12:35 AM
Also known as a silo motor which was built out of Oshkosh engineering, Bob Morgan was in charge, he built the first prototypes, then Dave Bair and I built the rest. Later the bottom of the manifold was opened up and we bolted on open exhaust nicknammed cow bells, those were really cool motors. Remember Bair and I worked for Garbrecht at 20 wisconsin street in Oshkosh which was the OPC racing division. All the power head serial numbers from that era either started with DB or RP. That was when we had Bob Herring, Tom Stickle, Mike Downard, and Jim Merten as full time employees. Sub contract we had Sirois, Habe, Pruitt, Miles, Clark, percival,Molinari,Wilson, John Henry, Fountain, etc. Those were the days. Parker, Miami nationals, Havasau, Paris, Chasewater, etc etc etc. Great days great friends, sadly many lost their lives, or became crippled from those racing days.

I still remember when Merton passed like it was yesterday. You still in the Oshkosh area?

T2x
03-24-2009, 08:47 AM
Nice, wonder what oil mix ratio he was using?

16:1 was the preferred mix back in the day.

T2x

Ratickle
03-24-2009, 08:51 AM
16:1 was the preferred mix back in the day.

T2x

Wow, stiff.

Would they make even more horsepower with today's better oils running at a lower ratio?

T2x
03-24-2009, 09:53 AM
Wow, stiff.

Would they make even more horsepower with today's better oils running at a lower ratio?

Maybe a little...... might run a bit cooler as well.

We ran them normally up to about 7200-7600 RPM as I recall...and the components were just about maxed out at that point. I had one engine which we built with a super secret resurfacing technology on the pistons, bearings and rings that had gobs more power than any other powerhead I ever ran (and I ran dozens)....... That engine spun up to 8500 RPM during a test lap at unbelievable speed and grenaded. The rods simply couldn't handle the stresses. By the way, I never achieved the same speed again on that hull (see photo)...even with the early V-6's(pictured).

I kept a spare T2x powerhead for a future coffee table, back in the 70's in a boatyard on Lake Hopatcong. I went back 10 years later and it was gone.

T2x

T2x
03-24-2009, 10:03 AM
Some of my other T2x hulls from back in the day.........

T2x

Ratickle
03-24-2009, 11:46 AM
Maybe a little...... might run a bit cooler as well.

We ran them normally up to about 7200-7600 RPM as I recall...and the components were just about maxed out at that point. I had one engine which we built with a super secret resurfacing technology on the pistons, bearings and rings that had gobs more power than any other powerhead I ever ran (and I ran dozens)....... That engine spun up to 8500 RPM during a test lap at unbelievable speed and grenaded. The rods simply couldn't handle the stresses. By the way, I never achieved the same speed again on that hull (see photo)...even with the early V-6's(pictured).

That's too bad. It would be fun to copy that and use today's rod technology to see if it would stay together. We've spun our RC motors over 20,000 rpm (real short stroke). Sounds like a project we could pull off and use to christian the Miami Boat Stadium when it's done..... Wanna drive?:)


I kept a spare T2x powerhead for a future coffee table, back in the 70's in a boatyard on Lake Hopatcong. I went back 10 years later and it was gone. T2x


That's too bad:(, do you still want one? We could all start lookin.

cosmic12
03-25-2009, 10:18 PM
ended at $3,440.00 reserve not met. Oh well maybe it will show up again.

T2x
03-26-2009, 07:54 AM
ended at $3,440.00 reserve not met. Oh well maybe it will show up again.

Figure 5-6 grand minimum.... on this engine.

God knows on a pristene T2x...... like me.. ;)

MarylandMark
03-26-2009, 05:33 PM
:iagree: :seeya: