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baddogz28
03-17-2009, 11:00 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/28-Pantera-Cigarette-Race-Boat_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c24 0Q3a1308Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m320348679921QQitemZ320348679921QQptZPowerQ5fMotorboats

This thing looks like it would be a blast. :D

stormrider
03-17-2009, 01:57 PM
Old Littlefish??? i know some have been looking for it, and many know of this one for sale.
I saw this boat about a yr ago, covered on the trailer.
I think at the time they were asking in the 50s.:rofl:

T2x
03-17-2009, 05:08 PM
Ad says it won "many races".......... I must have missed those...???

T2x

Ryan Beckley
03-17-2009, 05:28 PM
Very cool, old, classic. Same cockpit as the first boat I raced but I was in a twin big block 28'

Dude! Sweet!
03-18-2009, 12:58 AM
I'm dying to put my dirty mitts on a 3 man tripple OB Pantera, but still carrying a flame for Merola's Boats Unlimited Special... Man, I wish the economy would turn a bit, I could spend money on all sorts of stupid crap again! :D

Dude! Sweet!
03-18-2009, 12:59 AM
Very cool, old, classic. Same cockpit as the first boat I raced but I was in a twin big block 28'

Ryan which one did you run? The one that Chris B has now?

Ryan Beckley
03-18-2009, 10:08 AM
I navigated in OPA! The same owner still owns it, He is a member here goes by OPA he also has a classic 24' Pantera. He is from Michigan

Davidmnc
03-18-2009, 10:13 AM
I'm dying to put my dirty mitts on a 3 man tripple OB Pantera, but still carrying a flame for Merola's Boats Unlimited Special... Man, I wish the economy would turn a bit, I could spend money on all sorts of stupid crap again! :D

Here is your opertunity to start stimulating the economy!!!!!

stormrider
03-18-2009, 04:19 PM
DS... see some info here.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/2599845-post43.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/2603251-post47.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/2603259-post48.html

Dude! Sweet!
03-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Very cool! Thanks SR! :D

Expensive Date
03-18-2009, 09:07 PM
If this is as clean as the pictures show it is a steal.Would be a great poker run boat

MattBMiller
03-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Cool boat. Looks CLEAN! Wonder what kind of speeds with the trip 2.4's?

MOBILEMERCMAN
03-18-2009, 11:00 PM
Could be a fun boat. 20 year old 200's in salt?

Notice no pix under the cowlings.

stormrider
03-19-2009, 10:49 AM
Put it this way.
I saw the boat a year ago, i was impressed to the point where i didn't mention it to anyone. :rolleyes:

rschap1
03-19-2009, 11:11 AM
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/1079556393.html

Here's a steal for ya on a Sutphen!

$19k

Dude! Sweet!
03-19-2009, 12:10 PM
One of my buddies that runs a fish boat told me that with OBs, assume that the motors need to be completely rebuilt or replaced when you're considering pricing on a used OB boat.

stormrider
03-19-2009, 01:58 PM
One of my buddies that runs a fish boat told me that with OBs, assume that the motors need to be completely rebuilt or replaced when you're considering pricing on a used OB boat.

Funny... i heard the same thing.

pullmytrigger
03-24-2009, 06:33 PM
that Sutphen is pretty cool.....been for sale for awhile I think

Dude! Sweet!
03-24-2009, 07:28 PM
Seems like everything's been for sale for a while. Nobody buying...

MarylandMark
03-24-2009, 07:32 PM
Same boat?

Dude! Sweet!
03-24-2009, 07:53 PM
Don't know (don't think so though, isn't that Black Sunday, disappeared in PR) but it would be a crime if they painted a black gel boat white...

h2oMag
03-24-2009, 08:20 PM
Same boat?

This Pantera was the sister boat to Black Sunday, she was raced by Mark Poker [Cat Can Do 28' Skater] & Big Wave Dave now the driver of [Reliable One 40' Skater] & the late Bill D all From Lake St Clair Michigan. Pepe said this one went to Europe and is M.I.A. now.

Dude! Sweet!
03-24-2009, 08:22 PM
Went and looked at the other site and looks like Mange and Duunoit thought this boat was originally black though. Damn shame...

stormrider
03-25-2009, 09:42 AM
You want me to check out the hull w/ a chisel? :D

glassdave
03-25-2009, 10:30 AM
I navigated in OPA! The same owner still owns it, He is a member here goes by OPA he also has a classic 24' Pantera. He is from Michigan

I think the deck of the 24 is hanging from the ceiling of the bar, or atleast it was last time i was up there :cool:

h2oMag
03-25-2009, 12:14 PM
I think the deck of the 24 is hanging from the ceiling of the bar, or atleast it was last time i was up there :cool:

Bill [OPA] has 2 1/2 24' Panteras and one bad Big block twin eng 28' Pantera. The 1/2 one is the deck of the old Double Cross thats hanging in his bar, the hull went to the PRESSURE ON race team.

Dude! Sweet!
03-25-2009, 12:51 PM
I think the deck of the 24 is hanging from the ceiling of the bar, or atleast it was last time i was up there :cool:

Now I know what I can do with my 28 if I keep blowing motors! :D

Dude! Sweet!
03-25-2009, 02:25 PM
You want me to check out the hull w/ a chisel? :D

Have one of your buddies video tape it! :D

(I'm picturing the scene in the Big Lebowski where they smash the crap out of the Vette and the Torino in sucession.)

h2oMag
03-25-2009, 03:47 PM
Talked to Big Wave Dave today and he said the black P-21 had Gill brackets and the older Black Sunday did not, she still had the outboard transome well.

Dude! Sweet!
03-25-2009, 05:02 PM
This boat has the SMI style bracket on it. The photos I saw on OSO, the inside of the boat was black (forward bulkheads and whatnot).

Dude! Sweet!
03-25-2009, 05:52 PM
Talked to Big Wave Dave today and he said the black P-21 had Gill brackets and the older Black Sunday did not, she still had the outboard transome well.

Thanks for the destinction on that. The second picture Mark posted looked like it could have said Black Sunday (the one that was supposedly in Puerto Rico) when I looked at it quick. You'd figure with only having to keep track of a few hundred boats, we'd know where they all went! :D

Dude! Sweet!
03-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Better shots of Black Sunday and P-21.

stormrider
03-26-2009, 04:36 PM
gotta love the hull ID# on the ebay ad.
the HIN would be a good giveaway huh?

nocigarette
03-27-2009, 07:55 AM
Thanks for the destinction on that. The second picture Mark posted looked like it could have said Black Sunday (the one that was supposedly in Puerto Rico) when I looked at it quick. You'd figure with only having to keep track of a few hundred boats, we'd know where they all went! :D

the other boat in that picture is nice (double vision)......Man i miss that thing, especially with all the walleye fisherman in the river right now...

I would love to get my hands on that pantera but it doesn't need enough work for i guy like me>>>>

stormrider
03-27-2009, 11:31 AM
This boat in Freeport would be a good buy at 20K.
Maybe the engines are decent, or you're looking at 45k+ to repower w/ new.
Paint it all black w/ a new black interior... it'd be pretty slick.
But, by the time you're done if it needs new power.. you might as well go new.

Switzer It
04-06-2009, 01:10 PM
this Pantera was up in Alex Bay NY for a while. Last I was told it sold and went to MA

Dude! Sweet!
04-07-2009, 04:38 PM
Wow, Merolas finally sold that boat huh?! I'm suprised! :D

That boat was in A-Bay for 20+ years!

Switzer It
04-08-2009, 09:37 PM
loved the boat and wanted to make a deal.... but like I've heard, ya gotta look at it as if it's got no power on it when your making an offer. The g/f hated it... but o-well... it was all me....

MattBMiller
04-08-2009, 10:17 PM
I think the deck of the 24 is hanging from the ceiling of the bar, or atleast it was last time i was up there :cool:

What bar?

Dude! Sweet!
04-09-2009, 03:28 AM
loved the boat and wanted to make a deal.... but like I've heard, ya gotta look at it as if it's got no power on it when your making an offer. The g/f hated it... but o-well... it was all me....

Hey is Sinbads in Angola or Mickey Rats Beach Club still open?

Switzer It
04-09-2009, 12:08 PM
Sinbads (by the airport - the old September's) has been closed for years.

Mickey Ratt's, Capt. Kidd's, and the Sunset Bay Beach Club are all still open. Crawdaddy's at Erie Basin Marina was torn down and rebuilt - they want nothing to do with boaters. I didn't make a lake run this past season... only burned fuel in the river the few chances I got to go out... and didn't even make trip up to the 1000 Islands.

When did you live around here?

- Pat

C M R
04-09-2009, 04:04 PM
What bar?

90% Sure he owns the bar below.

I have heard a lot of good about the place, just haven't had the chance to stop yet. :sifone:

Opa Food & Spirits

600 S Lapeer Rd
Lake Orion, MI 48362

Dude! Sweet!
04-11-2009, 12:51 AM
Sinbads (by the airport - the old September's) has been closed for years.

Mickey Ratt's, Capt. Kidd's, and the Sunset Bay Beach Club are all still open. Crawdaddy's at Erie Basin Marina was torn down and rebuilt - they want nothing to do with boaters. I didn't make a lake run this past season... only burned fuel in the river the few chances I got to go out... and didn't even make trip up to the 1000 Islands.

When did you live around here?

- Pat

Pat,

Thanks.

I'd heard that about Crawdaddy's. Stupid. I went to NU from '88 - '92 and then lived in South Buffalo until '94.

My best bud lives in Williamsville. He ran a 272 Formula for a couple of years, but had to get uot for a bit last year so he could pay some lawyers...

Later,

Sean

PatriYacht
05-11-2009, 09:00 AM
90% Sure he owns the bar below.

I have heard a lot of good about the place, just haven't had the chance to stop yet. :sifone:

Opa Food & Spirits

600 S Lapeer Rd
Lake Orion, MI 48362

That's the place. Bill and his wife are super nice people. We've had a few parties at his bar and done a little boating with them. He recently put a new pair of HP 500's in his 28 Pantera race boat. Turn key 80 mph and turns heads everywhere.

Jake1250
05-27-2009, 09:46 PM
I owned the original LittleFish.....Its now painted white and in the opening thread....This boat only raced a few times but was never built as a race boat. The original owner used it to blast around Miami until his lifestyle caught up with him....It was then sold to a wealthy owner in Kentucky and then went to CHicago....rarely used.....spent most of its life on a trailer. It then went back to Florida to another owner and was raced in Key West and ran pretty strong next to The Muscle Powerplay until a partial stuff that swamped the motors. Jo at Pantera was throttling it i think. It was then repo"d and bought by a guy who flipped boats for a living. I purchased it from him and owned it for about 10 years. I only ran it a few times and then began a resto/re-rig but other projects took a front seat so I sold it to another guy who resold it on ebay to the current owner who has since redone it to its current condition. This was never really a raceboat, but a raceboat used for pleasure......This is the complete story on Littlefish......and yes i regret selling her:( Jake1250

stormrider
05-27-2009, 10:49 PM
jake, got any pics of littlefish?

Jake1250
05-28-2009, 07:46 AM
I may have a few....I will have to dig them up.....

Dude! Sweet!
05-28-2009, 01:15 PM
I owned the original LittleFish.....Its now painted white and in the opening thread....This boat only raced a few times but was never built as a race boat. The original owner used it to blast around Miami until his lifestyle caught up with him....It was then sold to a wealthy owner in Kentucky and then went to CHicago....rarely used.....spent most of its life on a trailer. It then went back to Florida to another owner and was raced in Key West and ran pretty strong next to The Muscle Powerplay until a partial stuff that swamped the motors. Jo at Pantera was throttling it i think. It was then repo"d and bought by a guy who flipped boats for a living. I purchased it from him and owned it for about 10 years. I only ran it a few times and then began a resto/re-rig but other projects took a front seat so I sold it to another guy who resold it on ebay to the current owner who has since redone it to its current condition. This was never really a raceboat, but a raceboat used for pleasure......This is the complete story on Littlefish......and yes i regret selling her:( Jake1250


Jake thanks for the story! Very cool to get a more detailed history on one of these old girls. Hopefully we'll be welcoming you back into the Family very soon! :D

A couple of quick questions. You mentioned that it wasn't a true race boat. Wass it a light lay up but not raced or a heavier pleasure layup? Also, was it still black when you owned it?

Jake1250
05-28-2009, 06:59 PM
Your very welcome...There was nothing light about Littlefish, however its not a heavy resin bucket either. When i bought it, it was still black and had gold trim everywhere....Gold rubrails, dash, hinges, fuel fills, light housings and the triple pantera stripe in three shades of gold....I stripped the boat down after a while and primed the boat to piant.....I regreted it as soon as I shot the primer......The black was Badass!!!!!

MidOcean
06-20-2009, 03:21 PM
The boat in question was "Little Fish". I bought it from a guy in Deale, MD with the purchase of a triple 33 Powerplay. I sold off the pantera(stripped) with the tandem target trailer to the guy who has it now. He did a great job restoring her.

Hannibal41
06-20-2009, 05:43 PM
i bet you stripped it clean...the word is you stripped a lot of your boats and your customers boats?! Sean Stinson knows all about Mid Ocean...

~The Bull

Sean Stinson
06-21-2009, 11:03 AM
The boat in question was "Little Fish". I bought it from a guy in Deale, MD with the purchase of a triple 33 Powerplay. I sold off the pantera(stripped) with the tandem target trailer to the guy who has it now. He did a great job restoring her.

What you didn't get enough on OSO pal!!:boxing_smiley::boxing_smiley:

Airpacker
06-21-2009, 01:06 PM
Mr Stinson, please remember it is your responsability to mop up all blood let in this thread . Thank you

The Management :)

Sean Stinson
06-21-2009, 01:43 PM
Do I need to sign a disclaimer now!!!!!