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Anchored
01-16-2009, 04:49 PM
Hey guys,

I have scanned a bunch of photo's from Roger Munn's photo collection.
Time to share them. If anyone has any details to add, feel free.
This stuff was way before my time.

Let's start with Billy Martin's Bounty Hunter. What model of Cigarette was it?

Jeff

Anchored
01-16-2009, 04:51 PM
More Bounty Hunter.
Jeff

Anchored
01-16-2009, 04:53 PM
More yet,

Jeff

Perlmudder
01-16-2009, 04:55 PM
More yet,

Jeff

are those the exhaust pipes coming out the side

Toasty
01-16-2009, 05:07 PM
thats so great, why do you tow out to the bay or ocean? thats what i do with the sutphen, but with a 13 whaler not a 27 mag

Chris
01-16-2009, 05:12 PM
That's a Cigarette 39 Competition that later competed as the Fayva Shoes boat. it sold last year for peanuts and was repainted in the Bounty Hunter colors. It was running around Key West during Worlds week last November. We were out running with him- it ran really stong. The boat was due to be shipped to its new owner in France right after the races.

Chris
01-16-2009, 05:15 PM
Actually that's partially wrong- the boat that went on to be Fayva was one of two bubble-deck 39's, the other being Copeland's Popeyes.

Anchored
01-16-2009, 05:16 PM
That's a Cigarette 39 Competition that later competed as the Fayva Shoes boat. it sold last year for peanuts and was repainted in the Bounty Hunter colors. It was running around Key West during Worlds week last November. We were out running with him- it ran really stong. The boat was due to be shipped to its new owner in France right after the races.

I thought that one had a bubble deck on it. Are you sure?

Jeff

Anchored
01-16-2009, 05:18 PM
are those the exhaust pipes coming out the side


You bet your sweet ass it is!
After a few hours of racing in the open ocean, It's probably pretty annoying!

Jeff

Steve 1
01-16-2009, 05:33 PM
The 40 was an extended 36 Cigarette (it needed it) You could tell from a distance it had the Wale on the side at the Sheer and the other one was a streached 35 Like LongShot a 39 with a crease in the hull side.

Perlmudder
01-16-2009, 06:23 PM
You bet your sweet ass it is!
After a few hours of racing in the open ocean, It's probably pretty annoying!

Jeff

i bet it sounded awesome! :sifone:

wstultz
01-16-2009, 08:41 PM
That's a Cigarette 39 Competition that later competed as the Fayva Shoes boat. it sold last year for peanuts and was repainted in the Bounty Hunter colors. It was running around Key West during Worlds week last November. We were out running with him- it ran really stong. The boat was due to be shipped to its new owner in France right after the races.

Not the same boat. The bubble decked Bounty Hunter was in Key West. This one was the flat deck.

Great pics, keep them coming!

Anchored
01-17-2009, 05:45 AM
Here's a few of Bounty Hunter II.
What model was this one?

Jeff

wstultz
01-17-2009, 12:17 PM
Here's a few of Bounty Hunter II.
What model was this one?

Jeff

I believe that looks to be a 36. Sweet old ride. I would love to get my hands on an old race 36.:drool5:

Top Banana
01-17-2009, 03:38 PM
I believe that looks to be a 36. Sweet old ride. I would love to get my hands on an old race 36.:drool5:

Bounty Hunter II was a 35 foot Cigarette with an 8 foot beam....the 40 and the 36's had 9'6" beams

wstultz
01-17-2009, 08:18 PM
Bounty Hunter II was a 35 foot Cigarette with an 8 foot beam....the 40 and the 36's had 9'6" beams

I stand corrected. Charlie, it looks like that one from the Catalina race pics that you were looking for not too long ago. Did you ever find out which 35 that was?

jayboat
01-17-2009, 11:23 PM
Great shots, Jeff. Keep em coming.
I just had to do a quick re-touch on one...

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8430/bountyhunter16gf1.jpg

Steve 1
01-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Bounty Hunter II was a 35 foot Cigarette with an 8 foot beam....the 40 and the 36's had 9'6" beams

I saw the 35 In Jersey Billy said it ran 92 MPH Not bad in those days The old 36 Cigarette did a little 1-2-3 thing @ 89 better hang on and duck.

If you look at the port side entry On a 36 at the Stem Knee they were all "sucked in" for a couple feet at the chine..

Anglo and I rigged Longshot a Kevlar 39 Cigarette at Haggertys shop in Miami.

Chris
01-18-2009, 06:15 PM
Yes, I was completely wrong. The Bounty Hunter in KW was the 39 Competition bubble-deck. The one pictured above was the 40, based on the 36. Bob Norkskog had a 39 competition flatdeck as did Craig Barrie- the Coors Silver Bullet raceboat, that's for sale on Craigslist right now.

cosmic12
01-18-2009, 10:21 PM
Thank you for the pics, BUT PLEASE don't stop now!!!!!!!!!! I love this stuff.

McCaffertee
01-19-2009, 01:10 PM
anybody remember this?

McCaffertee
01-19-2009, 01:13 PM
from back of pic of three

McCaffertee
01-19-2009, 01:21 PM
28 SS w/Twin 280 TRS $27,490 in 1976/1977 - Pic is from Bacardi Race around same time.

Steve 1
01-19-2009, 02:26 PM
28 SS w/Twin 280 TRS $27,490 in 1976/1977 - Pic is from Bacardi Race around same time.

I ran in that race Modified Out government Cut to Bimini and back then to fowery and back to the Cut!

Top Banana
01-19-2009, 08:23 PM
anybody remember this?

The photo shows the famous team of Bobby & Jack.

Bobby & Jack's was the best rigging shop in the sport. Jack came from California and introduced new things in the rigging business like anodizing of parts in the engine room. His big talent was drivng SK and Enduro boats. He was the named driver of Mike Gordon's Fish Peddler Rayson Craft for many years. The lifejacket he is wearing here is the jacket he wore in the SK boats.

What else can be said about Bobby Moore? The first throttleman in the sport, the first of many innovations in rigging. He won more world championships for his drivers with all kinds of boats, Deep Vees, Cats, Aluminum, etc.

Funny about the date on the PR release....May 78. That was the month they rolled that 38 Scarab just under the St Petersburg Bridge. Jack broke his arm, Billy Martin was runnng right behind them and swung by to make sure everyone was out and then took off again.

Tough racers. Joey just passed away last year from cancer. RIP

whataworld51
01-19-2009, 08:27 PM
Great photos. Much respect for the old boats.

Anchored
01-20-2009, 02:49 AM
Billy Martin's Hustler,

I believe Roger said this was a 23 or 24 Donzi. Correct me If I'm wrong!

Jeff

Anchored
01-20-2009, 02:52 AM
More,

Jeff

Dude! Sweet!
01-20-2009, 01:19 PM
I stand corrected. Charlie, it looks like that one from the Catalina race pics that you were looking for not too long ago. Did you ever find out which 35 that was?

This one?

wstultz
01-20-2009, 01:45 PM
This one?


Yep. Did anyone figure out what race boat it was originally?

Brownie
01-20-2009, 02:51 PM
I think the 26' Hustler was Charlie Dore's originally. I also think that Billy sold the red Cig to Paul Clauser to become Li'l Satisgfaction.

Fast Shafts
01-20-2009, 03:02 PM
Is the photo in post 29 originally "Conspiracy" then "Mighty Mouse"???

Chris
01-20-2009, 03:49 PM
Speaking of the Cigarette 28, don't ever let anyone tell you it's not an exceptionally capable rough-water boat.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/CTS1489/ph-28history10.jpg

With none other than the legendary Bobby Saccenti on board.

Steve 1
01-20-2009, 04:50 PM
Speaking of the Cigarette 28, don't ever let anyone tell you it's not an exceptionally capable rough-water boat.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e123/CTS1489/ph-28history10.jpg

With none other than the legendary Bobby Saccenti on board.

Should run it is a Popped 27 Magnum.

Top Banana
01-20-2009, 06:45 PM
Should run it is a Popped 27 Magnum.

Right you are Steve.....we have the history of the 28 footer on our site...go to Products, click on the 28....scroll down to ....History of 28.

www.bananaboatco.com

Dude! Sweet!
01-20-2009, 09:33 PM
Is the photo in post 29 originally "Conspiracy" then "Mighty Mouse"???

I'd have to go back through the posts on OSO. I though that Brownie, Richie Powers or Charlie guesstimated it's identity with some confidence, but I don't remember what boat it was.

Top Banana
01-21-2009, 02:39 AM
I'd have to go back through the posts on OSO. I though that Brownie, Richie Powers or Charlie guesstimated it's identity with some confidence, but I don't remember what boat it was.

Yes....it is Conspiracy. This was the boat that was raced by Michael Allweiss' father.

I have some photos of that boat, when I get back to RI, I will post them...beautiful lines the 35 really came alive with that windshield that was on this boat and Billy's Bounty Hunter II.

Anchored
01-24-2009, 04:09 PM
And got said............... Let there be the baddest ass boat ever made.

And thus the 27 Sport was conceived.

Billy Martin's Hustler II with Roger Munn at the throttles.

27 Sport. Coolest boat ever Produced.

Time for the 24hrs of Daytona!

Jeff

BattleCry
01-26-2009, 03:25 AM
Did someone ever locate all of the Bounty Hunter boats? There use to be one here in Illinois sitting in a barn.

fund razor
01-26-2009, 08:15 AM
The photo shows the famous team of Bobby & Jack.

Bobby & Jack's was the best rigging shop in the sport. Jack came from California and introduced new things in the rigging business like anodizing of parts in the engine room. His big talent was drivng SK and Enduro boats. He was the named driver of Mike Gordon's Fish Peddler Rayson Craft for many years. The lifejacket he is wearing here is the jacket he wore in the SK boats.

What else can be said about Bobby Moore? The first throttleman in the sport, the first of many innovations in rigging. He won more world championships for his drivers with all kinds of boats, Deep Vees, Cats, Aluminum, etc.

Funny about the date on the PR release....May 78. That was the month they rolled that 38 Scarab just under the St Petersburg Bridge. Jack broke his arm, Billy Martin was runnng right behind them and swung by to make sure everyone was out and then took off again.

Tough racers. Joey just passed away last year from cancer. RIP

Good stuff.

Except RIP Joey.
What happened to Jack?

Anchored
01-28-2009, 01:58 PM
Hustler IV

Jeff

Steve 1
01-28-2009, 04:35 PM
Hustler IV

Jeff

The top right picture was the most famous picture around in its day like every shop had one as standard issue.

T2x
01-29-2009, 11:26 AM
If I am not mistaken The original Hustler hull was a Luhrs...... That's the boat that got Billy started in organized racing. Truth be told previous to that he contented himself with having the fastest boats on Lake Hopatcong, NJ. He had quite a collection of unique multi engined outboards....including a wing Switzer and a converted inboard hydro.....with a couch in it!!!!!

T2x

Brownie
01-29-2009, 01:39 PM
The 26 or 27' Luhrs was owned and raced by Charlie Dore' Around Long Island, and was named Hustler before Billy bought it.

fund razor
01-29-2009, 01:54 PM
What happened to Jack?

I found out. I am sorry that I didn't know or connect the name and the accident.
RIP Jack as well.

Anchored
01-29-2009, 01:56 PM
Does anyone know what years Hustler IV was raced?

Was this a 35 Magnum?

Jeff

T2x
01-29-2009, 02:29 PM
The 26 or 27' Luhrs was owned and raced by Charlie Dore' Around Long Island, and was named Hustler before Billy bought it.

I don't think Billy bought anything new in the earlier years.............

Anchored
02-09-2009, 02:21 PM
Art Swift's "Daddy Cool"


Jeff

Anchored
02-09-2009, 02:22 PM
More

Anchored
02-23-2009, 09:57 AM
Bertram "RIO" originally named Orion. Renamed Rio and raced by Roger and some guys from Panama.

Anchored
02-23-2009, 10:00 AM
More

Anchored
02-23-2009, 10:06 AM
more

Anchored
02-23-2009, 10:15 AM
A couple more.
What model name has the compound contour on the transom?

Jeff

Toasty
02-23-2009, 11:31 AM
wow roger was so progressive back in the day! he was a true offshore man.
nice to everyone, and a real racer way to go!

h2oMag
02-23-2009, 01:09 PM
A couple more.
What model name has the compound contour on the transom?

Jeff

Jeff here you go one more pic of the 28' Barconeom,, from the Emerald City collection.

Anchored
02-24-2009, 01:51 PM
It looks like it even has a cabin in the front!

Jeff

dykstra
03-01-2009, 02:53 PM
way cool pics

baddogz28
03-12-2009, 12:19 PM
These pics are great. Thanks guys.

northernoffshore
03-13-2009, 10:31 AM
daddy cool is for sale and in excellent cond.

Top Banana
03-13-2009, 01:23 PM
The first photo in post #41 shows how Thunderboat Row looked back in the old days....you can see the original Donzi plant over the back of the boat.....the truck is facing the Magnum plant..... and as you can see the combination of Florida rains and the ever present cement trucks, the street was always a mess.

Magnum didn't have a deck mold for that boat, so they went up Biscayne Blvd a bit and had Thunderbird build one of theirs and they brought it back and fit it on the Magnum.

stormrider
03-13-2009, 02:53 PM
That picture is how i remember the area... from the late 70s.
I won't go back... i want to remember it that way.
The last time i was there, i sat and spoke to Don was 1983.

Anyone remember "Embers" from Miami Beach during that era? Best ribs ever!

Anchored
03-17-2009, 01:22 PM
The first photo in post #41 shows how Thunderboat Row looked back in the old days....you can see the original Donzi plant over the back of the boat.....the truck is facing the Magnum plant..... and as you can see the combination of Florida rains and the ever present cement trucks, the street was always a mess.

Magnum didn't have a deck mold for that boat, so they went up Biscayne Blvd a bit and had Thunderbird build one of theirs and they brought it back and fit it on the Magnum.

Charlie,
Referring to post #41,

What length was was Hustler IV? Also, It seems I have miss-tiled the post.
As you can see, There is IV on the left . The other to shots are of Hustler V.
Roger seems to think this is the same boat as Thumper too and Head Hunter.

Although now converted to a single, There is evidence of a flywheel explosion that penetrated the hull during the same race of post #41 on the port side. The boat is now parked at his shop.

What are your thoughts?

Jeff

Anchored
04-22-2009, 05:02 PM
"Spirit of Panama"

Owned by the same guys as "RIO"

Later sold to Art Swift and renamed "Daddy Cool"

Jeff

FastDonzi
04-22-2009, 06:16 PM
Would that be the same guys that owned "Panama Hawk"? a sister ship to Ajac Hawk.

Anchored
05-02-2009, 09:15 PM
Howard Arneson's "SEA SWEEP"

Note the early prototype drives.

seeroy
05-10-2009, 01:25 PM
More yet,

Jeff

Red Crise in hat, Billy Martin holding cup - Steve

Anchored
05-10-2009, 04:46 PM
Steve,

Tell us more about Red Crise. A photographer or journalist i assume?
Excuse my ignorance!

Jeff

Anchored
09-17-2009, 01:42 PM
Slingshot!

Jeff

cigdaze
09-17-2009, 01:57 PM
Crise was affiliated with Bertram and was the co-creator of the Miami-Nassau race, if I'm not mistaken. I also think he was a politician as well.

ejk666
02-05-2013, 12:50 PM
Hi Anchored,
I was wondering if you have these photos in a higher resolution. We are working on a pilot for a boat show and would like to include them. I"m also trying to reach Mr. Munn for permission, so if you have any details on him, I'd love to compare notes. PLease email me at the address below if possible> I appreciate these great photos and they will make the history portion of the segment come to life!
Eileen
eileenk1@sbcglobal.net

Ratickle
02-06-2013, 06:08 AM
Welcome to the site. Sounds like a cool project.

Anchored
02-06-2013, 02:10 PM
Eileen,

I do have them in higher resolution. I'll send you an e-mail.

Jeff

Top Banana
02-08-2013, 08:24 PM
Charlie,
Referring to post #41,

What length was was Hustler IV? Also, It seems I have miss-tiled the post.
As you can see, There is IV on the left . The other to shots are of Hustler V.
Roger seems to think this is the same boat as Thumper too and Head Hunter.

Although now converted to a single, There is evidence of a flywheel explosion that penetrated the hull during the same race of post #41 on the port side. The boat is now parked at his shop.

What are your thoughts?

Jeff

Sorry Jeff, just saw your question. That was a 30 foot boat the original Thunderbird Formula was raced by Dick Genth, after he sank the special Italian racer. That Italian job went down during a Miami to Nassau race. Genth decided to move back to the American designs as the Italian one didn't prove to be that fast.

The hull was the same, but I think they tried different deck designs on the Magnums after Billy's boat.

Top Banana
02-08-2013, 08:30 PM
Steve,

Tell us more about Red Crise. A photographer or journalist i assume?
Excuse my ignorance!

Jeff

Red Crise was a promoter of the most outstandign and outlandish motosports festivals ever conceived by man or beast. Or so he wouldmtell us on a regular basis. He promoted midget car races back in Indiana and when he moved to Florida, he shiftedmovermto powerboats. He would make the most astounding claims just to get coverage in the newspapers. He would change the rules on you in mid race if it wasn't turning out the way he wanted. He had some kind of deal from the Bahamas Ministry of Tourism to get as much motorsport activity going and thus bring more people over from Florida. He had the Bahamas Speed Weeks for sports car racing over there. One of the ealy entrants was Roger Penske as a driver.

old377guy
02-08-2013, 10:38 PM
Red Crise was a promoter of the most outstandign and outlandish motosports festivals ever conceived by man or beast. Or so he wouldmtell us on a regular basis. He promoted midget car races back in Indiana and when he moved to Florida, he shiftedmovermto powerboats. He would make the most astounding claims just to get coverage in the newspapers. He would change the rules on you in mid race if it wasn't turning out the way he wanted. He had some kind of deal from the Bahamas Ministry of Tourism to get as much motorsport activity going and thus bring more people over from Florida. He had the Bahamas Speed Weeks for sports car racing over there. One of the ealy entrants was Roger Penske as a driver.

doesn't that discriminate against normally sized individuals who want to race cars?

Bobcat
02-09-2013, 08:17 AM
Sounds like KW Softball Tournaments. One of the guys who runs the Mens League actually said "That is why we have rules, so we can change them":huh:

TUCK646
04-06-2013, 01:53 AM
More,

Jeff

like the sleeper 66 SuperSport too.