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MikeyFIN
12-23-2008, 07:02 PM
a 35 Chris Cat raceboat I just have located...
Any info ?

Gladhe8er
12-24-2008, 10:27 AM
Chris Craft only built a 30 footer. The built(and ran) a 37 foot plug called "Maxon" but the boat never went into production.

Fast Shafts
12-24-2008, 10:38 AM
The 35 Jesse James Conquest, had a "Chris Craft" logo on the boat. Could be this boat? I'm sure Rich, T2X will chime in. Something about a licenseing agreement...??

T2x
12-24-2008, 01:58 PM
There were no 35 foot Chris Cats of any kind.......

Chris Craft also never actually built any cat plugs or prototypes.

We, Conquest Marine, built a 37 foot running plug, later called Miss Maxon...which never went into production, yet the plug still exists as a running hull...albeit with the "wrong" materials....a basic miracle in wood.

The 35 foot Jesse James, was not a Chris Craft, but rather a full Conquest. Chris Craft "sponsored" the hull because in those days they wanted to put their name on anything to do with the Lavins and us.

The 30 foot Chris Cats were made from one of our Shadow Cats with modifications, (Spec'd by George Linder) which they used as a plug. The changes were made to make the hull more accomodating to big blocks.

T2x

Ratickle
12-24-2008, 02:08 PM
a 35 Chris Cat raceboat I just have located...
Any info ?

Any pictures so it can be figured out?

Ryan Beckley
12-24-2008, 08:06 PM
The 30' Chris Cat Smokey & the Bandit was later named Double Vision at some point, that would probably be it....

Clustergear
12-24-2008, 09:50 PM
Here are some pictures of the boat I think you are asking about. I think I have pictures of Maxon but have to find them and scan em. I will also post a couple of picutre of 30 Chris Cat, I don't remeber if JD had 2 small blocks in Specal Editon of 2 small cu-in big blocks, I think you could only run max of around 370 cu-in per engine

Clustergear
12-24-2008, 09:53 PM
Chris Cat

Clustergear
12-25-2008, 10:16 AM
Is this the Maxon you are talking about or the black one that was Maxon Chevrolet boat

Mange
12-25-2008, 10:32 AM
The 30' Chris Cat Smokey & the Bandit was later named Double Vision at some point, that would probably be it....

Allright, then Mikey are just wrong with the numbers. I know a red 30
Chris Cat in Finland 3 man cockpit. I was willing to buy it a few years
ago but it was in very bad condition and seller asked 45000 euro.
They had changed to TRS and 454/420's.
Actually I asked "Smokeybandit" in a other thread if he know something
about that but he never respond.

Mange

Gladhe8er
12-25-2008, 03:09 PM
Chris Cat

The Jesse James pic here is the 35 Conquest. Like T2X said it says "Chris craft by conquest" on the side. The canopied Special Edition is a 35 Jaguar. The open boat is a 30 Chris Cat. These were some of my favorite boats to watch growing up.

Gladhe8er
12-25-2008, 03:10 PM
Is this the Maxon you are talking about or the black one that was Maxon Chevrolet boat

Neither actually. It will probably be hard to find pics of the running 37 plug Miss Maxon. It was red/white/blue I believe.

Ryan Beckley
12-25-2008, 05:11 PM
The Maxon pictured is a 46' Alum. Cougar Vee Bottom......

Clustergear
12-25-2008, 11:13 PM
I have a picture hanging in the garage of a yellow boat with red stripe near water line that says maxon on the side. It is an Open Class boat and has the number 22 or 23 on front. Unable to get to it at this time Could it be one of the boats your looking for a picture of.

wstultz
12-26-2008, 02:20 AM
Neither actually. It will probably be hard to find pics of the running 37 plug Miss Maxon. It was red/white/blue I believe.

Is this it???

Ryan Beckley
12-26-2008, 11:42 AM
Yes.......

T2x
12-26-2008, 12:32 PM
That is the 37' running plug we built for Chris Craft...it is made entirely of exterior (not Marine) plywood interspersed with glass in the laminates.

It ran very bow high as it was balanced to be a pleasure boat (cabin, etc).....it was fast but always ran in an "unfinished: state.....IMHO opinion it never should have been raced, much less still be in existence.

T2x

T2x
12-26-2008, 12:36 PM
Here are some pictures of the boat I think you are asking about. I think I have pictures of Maxon but have to find them and scan em. I will also post a couple of picutre of 30 Chris Cat, I don't remeber if JD had 2 small blocks in Specal Editon of 2 small cu-in big blocks, I think you could only run max of around 370 cu-in per engine

I don't recall JD ever running in the either the 30 foot Shadow or the 30 foot Chris Cat Special Edition hulls. He throttled the 35 Jaguar very successfully.

The 30 foot CHris Cat had small blocks, the 30 Foot Shadow had destroked big blocks and was always badly balanced and over weight.

T2x

Clustergear
12-26-2008, 01:43 PM
I don't recall JD ever running in the either the 30 foot Shadow or the 30 foot Chris Cat Special Edition hulls. He throttled the 35 Jaguar very successfully.

The 30 foot CHris Cat had small blocks, the 30 Foot Shadow had destroked big blocks and was always badly balanced and over weight.

T2x To differant JD's Special Edition owner John Dellia a car dealer from CT. His son was John Jr he also ran a boat. We called father JD

Bobcat
12-26-2008, 02:42 PM
J.D's old shadow special edition was down here on stock island, it also ran as cayo hueso express,

OneBadInjun
12-26-2008, 02:46 PM
I don't recall JD ever running in the either the 30 foot Shadow or the 30 foot Chris Cat Special Edition hulls. He throttled the 35 Jaguar very successfully.

The 30 foot CHris Cat had small blocks, the 30 Foot Shadow had destroked big blocks and was always badly balanced and over weight.

T2xJD definately did run a 30, before the 35 jaguar.

Bobcat
12-26-2008, 02:52 PM
same boat

smokeybandit
12-26-2008, 03:32 PM
JD definately did run a 30, before the 35 jaguar.

I don't recall him ever being in the 30. Digger throttled for John , and before that it was Jack Ray (I think). JD ran the 21' Superboat and then the 24' Skater, both named Breakaway. He and his Dad didn't run together until the Jaguar.

MikeyFIN
12-26-2008, 05:05 PM
The 30' Chris Cat Smokey & the Bandit was later named Double Vision at some point, that would probably be it....

I believe you nailed it.
And yes itīs a 30 footer.

MikeyFIN
12-26-2008, 05:08 PM
Allright, then Mikey are just wrong with the numbers. I know a red 30
Chris Cat in Finland 3 man cockpit. I was willing to buy it a few years
ago but it was in very bad condition and seller asked 45000 euro.
They had changed to TRS and 454/420's.
Actually I asked "Smokeybandit" in a other thread if he know something
about that but he never respond.

Mange
Same boat.
And bet my money on that itīs the one in smokeybandits avatar.

smokeybandit
12-26-2008, 06:32 PM
Mikey and Mange, if you have pics of it now I would love to see them. The last time I saw the boat was in 1986. That boat holds a lot of wonderful memories for me. I was curious if anyone on here knows, when it was Double Vision was that the Fillipones?

MikeyFIN
12-26-2008, 06:38 PM
Mikey and Mange, if you have pics of it now I would love to see them. The last time I saw the boat was in 1986. That boat holds a lot of wonderful memories for me. I was curious if anyone on here knows, when it was Double Vision was that the Fillipones?
I should have able to get current ones too.

smokeybandit
12-27-2008, 02:24 PM
Here's some video of the Maxon 37'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGj5FgfBhK4

Richard Crainium
01-14-2009, 12:37 PM
Pete Pavkovich owned the Double Vision Chris Cat for a short time, It was painted Red . He is the one that sold it over seas.The Boat had small blocks with #3's and crash boxes when I worked on it.I think that Ron Dollar had it in Miami when Pete bought it.