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lucy
12-22-2008, 12:14 AM
WOW!!!WARPATH ALIVE AND WELL IN THE SWELLS..!:) Great job Tom and Gail boat came out amazing...:seeya:

kidapache
12-22-2008, 12:17 AM
WOW!!!WARPATH ALIVE AND WELL IN THE SWELLS..!:) Great job Tom and Gail boat come amazing...:seeya:

Love that boat

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:18 AM
!...

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:23 AM
it was a very special moment to see this project completed and well done!:)
Love that boat

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:29 AM
!!..

Magnum Mark
12-22-2008, 12:37 AM
!!..

Does it run like a Banshee?

Billy Feathers.

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:38 AM
....
LOOKS LIKE LUCY JUMPED SHIP, OR WAS SHE SHANGHIED?funny :dupe:not et all... ;)just giving credit were credit is do!!!


Billy Dalton.

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:43 AM
feathers....uhmmmmm! I think we should have on Apache get together and find out!
Does it run like a Banshee?

Billy Feathers.

Tank
12-22-2008, 02:35 AM
WOW! Is all I can say. What an awesome piece of history to own. Probably the most respected boat in offshore history.

Who is the owner now? Is it staying in the Miami area?

Thanks for sharing the pics.

nocigarette
12-22-2008, 08:09 AM
Hands down the baddest boat on the planet, you will not find a cooler wave crusher than that!!!!!!
Very cool and thanks for sharing those pics...

SKRAMER
12-22-2008, 08:48 AM
Looks awesome!!!!

ar15meister
12-22-2008, 11:51 AM
that is amazing

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:02 PM
that will be fun!:boxing_smiley::)
I am in. Going to be a few weeks.


Billy.

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:27 PM
WOW! Is all I can say. What an awesome piece of history to own. Probably the most respected boat in offshore history.

Who is the owner now? Is it staying in the Miami area?

Thanks for sharing the pics.yes indeed,! :sifone:the owner is a business man from Miami call JC, here he is with the original TEAM APACHE Tom Evans, who loves this boat and cares for it like it is his, and wonderful, talented artist Gail Paik who always delivers the best!:)

Davidmnc
12-22-2008, 12:31 PM
:drool5::drool5::drool5::drool5::drool5::drool5::drool5:

OldSchool
12-22-2008, 12:33 PM
Beautiful!!!!!

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:35 PM
you said it!:seeya:
Hands down the baddest boat on the planet, you will not find a cooler wave crusher than that!!!!!!
Very cool and thanks for sharing those pics...

Perlmudder
12-22-2008, 12:41 PM
damn that sick!

lucy
12-22-2008, 12:43 PM
Hi crag do you feel any lighter?
Beautiful!!!!!

OldSchool
12-22-2008, 12:48 PM
Hi crag do you feel any lighter?

Yep....but I've got holes in my head!!!:biggrinjester:

Offshoredrillin
12-22-2008, 12:50 PM
yes indeed,! :sifone:the owner is a business man from Miami call JC, here he is with the original TEAM APACHE Tom Evans, who loves this boat and cares for it like it is his, and wonderful, talented artist Gail Paik who always delivers the best!:)

hi Lucy,
Is JC going to paint the 2nd boat back to the yellow scheme? He should come on here i know he had some issues with the other site. Would love to see the pics of the restoration on both of them. for those that dont know, JC owns BOTH of the original warpath boats...Rob

Davidmnc
12-22-2008, 12:52 PM
hi Lucy,
Is JC going to paint the 2nd boat back to the yellow scheme? He should come on here i know he had some issues with the other site. Would love to see the pics of the restoration on both of them. for those that dont know, JC owns BOTH of the original warpath boats...Rob

I want to be him! :sifone:

CarBiz
12-22-2008, 01:00 PM
Hands down the baddest boat on the planet, you will not find a cooler wave crusher than that!!!!!!
Very cool and thanks for sharing those pics...

Uhmm..............yea i would pretty much give my left N** for that rig:sifone:

lucy
12-22-2008, 01:34 PM
....
hi Lucy,
Is JC going to paint the 2nd boat back to the yellow scheme? Hi Rob,:seeya: no he is not. It looks good white, nice and simple:)

DollaBill
12-22-2008, 03:34 PM
My favorite boat of all time.

inbetween
12-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Very Impressive!! :drool5::drool5::drool5:

baywatch
12-22-2008, 11:09 PM
Oh sweet Jesus!!! What a lucky guy to have the both of them....

Geronimo36
12-24-2008, 11:57 AM
Awesome!!!

Lucy, when were the #6's added?

Toasty
12-24-2008, 06:44 PM
oh wee gail looks sexy...
can she paint sutphens??

lowblue320
12-25-2008, 03:58 PM
my favorite boat hands down and the baddest Apache ever......Jc is a lucky man......

lucy
12-29-2008, 01:19 PM
I think around this time:)not sure.....( Frank can u ask your sister to call me, I hang out with her in key west and she took some pictures I like to get) Happy new year and give the princess a kiss from me!:seeya:
Awesome!!!

Lucy, when were the #6's added?

Offshoredrillin
12-30-2008, 07:55 PM
Awesome!!!

Lucy, when were the #6's added?
the 6's were added before JC got it.. I honestly think this was the fastest boat sale in history. I called the day it landed on oso to put a deposit, probably a couple hours and it was sold. The 6's were on it then.... that wasnt a good day for me :(

Member: 541
12-30-2008, 09:21 PM
WOW! Boat still looks incredible...great thread.

MOBILEMERCMAN
12-30-2008, 10:02 PM
Very Impressive!! :drool5::drool5::drool5:


WOW! Boat still looks incredible...great thread.

Thanks for sharing

I remember seeing it 20 years ago. after all this time it still makes me:drool5:

olli
12-31-2008, 12:10 AM
Thanks for posting all those pics!!
The transom of Warpath is different to most other 41s at the rubrail. Why?? I am sure it was said on the one or the other forum but I'm too lazy to go through all the other threads:

12065 12066

:huh:

jeff1000man
12-31-2008, 12:33 AM
Wow!!

olli
01-01-2009, 02:09 AM
Aha
:biggrinjester:

g.paik
01-01-2009, 02:32 PM
Thanks for posting all those pics!!
The transom of Warpath is different to most other 41s at the rubrail. Why?? I am sure it was said on the one or the other forum but I'm too lazy to go through all the other threads:

12065 12066

:huh:

The transom was changed to 12 degrees.

MOBILEMERCMAN
01-01-2009, 02:46 PM
Thanks for posting all those pics!!
The transom of Warpath is different to most other 41s at the rubrail. Why?? I am sure it was said on the one or the other forum but I'm too lazy to go through all the other threads:

12065 12066

:huh:

I don't know the official reason, but maybe the boat liked trim and the flattened the transom some to give the cross bearings a longer life

lucy
01-02-2009, 12:38 AM
Thanks for sharing

I remember seeing it 20 years ago. after all this time it still makes me:drool5: a blast from the past!:)!

lucy
01-02-2009, 12:42 AM
..:seeya:

stecz20
01-02-2009, 01:01 AM
cool pics....

Geronimo36
01-02-2009, 09:20 PM
I think around this time:)not sure.....( Frank can u ask your sister to call me, I hang out with her in key west and she took some pictures I like to get) Happy new year and give the princess a kiss from me!:seeya:

No problem, I let her know and she said she'd call tomorrow PM.

gave the princess a big kiss for ya!!! Maybe I can get her out to Bracco's next summer, we'll have to see!! ;)

Happy New Year!

Mrhorsepower1
01-04-2009, 11:39 AM
Man I love that boat!!! Awesome photos! :cool::cool::cheers2:

lucy
01-05-2009, 11:14 AM
a few more!

lucy
01-13-2009, 09:58 AM
:seeya:it performed just like good old times!!! I had the pleasure to drive it, with crew chief Tom Evans!! and wow...!!!:26::03:

FunHome
02-03-2009, 03:49 PM
yes indeed,! :sifone:the owner is a business man from Miami call JC, here he is with the original TEAM APACHE Tom Evans, who loves this boat and cares for it like it is his, and wonderful, talented artist Gail Paik who always delivers the best!:)


Which one is Tom and which one is JC??

It was said that JC ownes both of the warpaths?? There was two?? What does the other one look like??

lucy
02-03-2009, 10:20 PM
this pictures are the same boat before and now,:) is call yellow warpath! this is hull #2, the rest of the photos on this thread are hull#1WARPATH.

lucy
02-03-2009, 10:38 PM
The gentleman in this photo is Tom Evans, Original Crew Chief of Apache power Boats.

MOBILEMERCMAN
02-03-2009, 11:21 PM
Way Cool

Congratulations on restoring The greatest offshore boat ever. I am sure you are very proud.

Enjoy

Toasty
02-10-2009, 10:00 PM
The gentleman in this photo is Tom Evans, Original Crew Chief of Apache power Boats.

thats total sexy apache hair!

lucy
02-26-2009, 10:14 PM
:):biggrinjester:

AIR TIME
04-30-2009, 02:48 AM
I think one of them was in mass a few yrs ago and sold for a cheap price but needed the redo, was it the blue hull? love the boat one of my top three to pick for a boat.

lowblue320
04-30-2009, 05:12 PM
I think one of them was in mass a few yrs ago and sold for a cheap price but needed the redo, was it the blue hull? love the boat one of my top three to pick for a boat.

The blue one was all redone and polished etc. The original painter "Gail Paik" went over the entire boat taking care of any scratches or blemishes and "Tom Evans" in which used to run and rigged (I believe) the boat made sure all the rigging was just the was it was polishing, changing etc.The owner was very lucky to find Gail and Tom whom were the original people that put there hands and heart on it to make it what it was, and to come back many years later and do it all over again back to the way it was originally. It is just awesome.

Another cool part is that the owner has two Warpath's to play with.

Buoy
04-30-2009, 05:37 PM
The blue one was all redone and polished etc. The original painter "Gail Paik" went over the entire boat taking care of any scratches or blemishes and "Tom Evans" in which used to run and rigged (I believe) the boat made sure all the rigging was just the was it was polishing, changing etc.The owner was very lucky to find Gail and Tom whom were the original people that put there hands and heart on it to make it what it was, and to come back many years later and do it all over again back to the way it was originally. It is just awesome.

Another cool part is that the owner has two Warpath's to play with.

Yeah, alot of people were messing there pants at the price it was listed at - if I recall correct $125K.
And, alot of people were crying when it sold within a few hours of being listed.
Amazing boat.
One of my all time favorites.

fund razor
04-30-2009, 06:23 PM
Yeah, alot of people were messing there pants at the price it was listed at - if I recall correct $125K.
And, alot of people were crying when it sold within a few hours of being listed.
Amazing boat.
One of my all time favorites.

You know it.

To me, Warpath is the great elder. When I saw Chris' post that number 1, 2 and 3 were Warpath... I was right with him.

There is something different about Apaches.... and something really special about that one. I think that "Warpath" is one of the reasons that Apaches always seem to be known by their own names, no matter who owns them.
That's why I took the name of mine so seriously.

IMO Tom owns the offshore equivalent of the Holy Grail.

Buoy
04-30-2009, 06:33 PM
You know it.

IMO Tom owns the offshore equivalent of the Holy Grail.

Yep. It certainly is.
Hell, when I saw that it was going for $125K, I was about ready to sell off everything.
Absolutely incredible boat.
You can keep all your new boat show models, and theme boats.
This thing was built for one purpose, and it did every bit of that, and I'm sure still does.

fund razor
04-30-2009, 06:37 PM
My bad.... JC owns em. I knew that.
I knew Tom was the rigger.

Stupid beer. :D

It's an Apache nation. ;)

Buoy
04-30-2009, 06:51 PM
My bad.... JC owns em. I knew that.
I knew Tom was the rigger.

Stupid beer. :D

It's an Apache nation. ;)

Ummm... Which JC? I wasn't sure who the name of the owner was that grabbed it.

fund razor
04-30-2009, 07:02 PM
Ummm... Which JC? I wasn't sure who the name of the owner was that grabbed it.

From reading, I gather the Miami JC. I don't know him, but looks like Lucy does.

Buoy
04-30-2009, 07:33 PM
I was thinking it was a different JC possibly.

fund razor
04-30-2009, 07:37 PM
I was thinking it was a different JC possibly.

I gotcha. ;)

lucy
05-06-2009, 02:47 PM
:seeya::rofl:TOM EVANS (green), JC (orange)

Toasty
05-06-2009, 04:59 PM
its a 5 person bolster? was it orig 3?

lucy
05-07-2009, 01:11 AM
yes!

Toasty
05-10-2009, 02:37 PM
thanks smilie! when are you boating in NJ next?

lucy
06-02-2009, 03:00 AM
thanks smilie! when are you boating in NJ next?I have been traveling over seas, NJ maybe end of summer. boating in Palau is just amazing!:)

Sean Stinson
06-02-2009, 07:16 PM
That is a great piece.....

Sean Stinson
06-02-2009, 07:22 PM
its a 5 person bolster? was it orig 3?

I believe it was originally a 3 man but is now a 5 man

Sean Stinson
06-02-2009, 07:24 PM
Hey Lucy...looking good as always when are you back in Miami!!!

lucy
06-09-2009, 01:04 PM
Thank you Sean!:) I am doing a trip around the world, will be in Miami this weekend for the Sunny Isles boat races!!:seeya:

lucy
06-09-2009, 01:18 PM
check this article on Men's Vogue

Sean Stinson
06-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Jan/Feb 2007 issue is that right beautiful I would like to get a copy of that somewhere if it is possible!!!

Sean Stinson
06-09-2009, 07:19 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/MENS-VOGUE-Magazine-KIEFER-SUTHERLAND-Jan-Feb-2007_W0QQitemZ160223765249QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMagazines?hash=item254e14a301&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

You have way too much time on your hands dude...but thank you I appreciate the link...I will let evryone know when it arrives!!!!!

Smarty
06-09-2009, 10:52 PM
I have been traveling over seas, NJ maybe end of summer. boating in Palau is just amazing!:)

Boating in Palau,:) and you had the opportunity to drive Warpath, life is good!

lucy
06-10-2009, 03:40 AM
I only have one life!! and it is a good one,:seeya: thank you God!!:)

lucy
06-10-2009, 04:04 AM
Yeah, alot of people were messing there pants at the price it was listed at - if I recall correct $125K.
And, alot of people were crying when it sold within a few hours of being listed.
Amazing boat.
One of my all time favorites.part of making a great deal is being able to recognize one!:)

Smarty
06-10-2009, 08:09 AM
part of making a great deal is being able to recognize one!:)

I remember being on OSO and seeing the ad for Warpath. I was not in a position to buy it, and I thought that it was the deal of a life time for my favorite Apache ever built.

Regarding the good life, God has smiled on you. Life is good, and God is good (all the time). Great pictures :seeya:

Stephen Jones

Sean Stinson
06-10-2009, 03:37 PM
I only have one life!! and it is a good one,:seeya: thank you God!!:)

And how!!!!!!! :sifone::sifone::sifone:

Bodyshot1
06-10-2009, 03:56 PM
looking awesome Lucy!


I have been traveling over seas, NJ maybe end of summer. boating in Palau is just amazing!:)

Sean Stinson
06-10-2009, 04:42 PM
looking awesome Lucy!

Hey brother how is the great white north????

Smarty
06-10-2009, 07:35 PM
I have been traveling over seas, NJ maybe end of summer. boating in Palau is just amazing!:)

Palau was just in tonight's evening news on ABC, now I know where that is - yes life is good. Enjoy!

lucy
06-10-2009, 08:11 PM
looking awesome Lucy!Hi Bodyshot1!!:) it has being a long time, glad to see you are here!

lowblue320
07-22-2009, 05:28 PM
Warpath will be running very soon....

cashbrain
07-22-2009, 09:49 PM
Hey Lucy...who's Apache are you on in the pic?

lucy
07-22-2009, 11:46 PM
Crazy Horse has a new owner, it is a great ride!.. but I am in love with Warpath can't wait until is done,:26: Tommy Chief and Jimmy from the marine shop are on the project, so you know the result are going to be great!

Geronimo36
07-23-2009, 08:59 AM
Lookin good!!!

cashbrain
07-23-2009, 02:19 PM
Crazy Horse has a new owner, it is a great ride!.. but I am in love with Warpath can't wait until is done,:26: Tommy Chief and Jimmy from the marine shop are on the project, so you know the result are going to be great!

Crazy Horse is in Miami ?

lucy
07-23-2009, 06:27 PM
yes it is! cashbrain:)

NJgr8ful
07-23-2009, 11:00 PM
Fabulous Lucy you look incredible ... oh and Crazy Horse ain't bad either :D

DAREDEVIL
07-23-2009, 11:44 PM
Fabulous Lucy you look incredible ... oh and Crazy Horse ain't bad either :D

Chris if i had to chose between the 2 ,,,i take Lucy !!!!!!!:sifone:

MikeyFIN
07-24-2009, 03:43 AM
Chris if i had to chose between the 2 ,,,i take Lucy !!!!!!!:sifone:

I´d take Crazy Horse and then invite Lucy to come along....:reddevil:

lucy
07-24-2009, 03:53 AM
you will have to take warpath, and then I will come along!!:)

MattBMiller
07-24-2009, 07:39 AM
I didn't know Crazy Horse could look any better, then Lucy hops on it! :D

lucy
07-24-2009, 11:29 AM
Amounts all this hulls Apache is very distinctive!!:seeya:

DAREDEVIL
07-24-2009, 12:13 PM
you will have to take warpath, and then I will come along!!:)

I hope your not telling me that ??? LOL:sifone:

C YA SOON BABE !!!!!!!!!!!!!:driving:

lucy
07-24-2009, 01:11 PM
lol!! unfortunately it is not on the market Scott! :) :seeya:

NJgr8ful
07-24-2009, 11:03 PM
Chris if i had to chose between the 2 ,,,i take Lucy !!!!!!!:sifone:
You'll get no argument from me bro :cool:

you will have to take warpath, and then I will come along!!:)
And neither will you Lucy :kiss:

Magic Medicine
07-25-2009, 10:38 AM
Crazy Horse is in Miami ?

Austin bought the 50' Nortech Turbine Warbird

lucy
07-25-2009, 12:12 PM
Sorry sweetie Austin never own Crazy Horse. Austin's old 41 went to Robert Tanner (Tonto) for Medicine Man and Robert sold it to a guy in Michigan. different boat!:)Another beautiful Apache.

inbetween
07-25-2009, 05:24 PM
Sorry sweetie Austin never own Crazy Horse. Austin's old 41 went to Robert Tanner (Tonto) for Medicine Man and Robert sold it to a guy in Michigan. different boat!:)Another beautiful Apache.

That'd be in Ohio now...Our very own ChiefApache and ApacheRob...at least that's The Chief in the picture

lucy
07-25-2009, 06:17 PM
You got it!!

Magic Medicine
07-26-2009, 08:56 AM
Sorry sweetie Austin never own Crazy Horse. Austin's old 41 went to Robert Tanner (Tonto) for Medicine Man and Robert sold it to a guy in Michigan. different boat!:)Another beautiful Apache.

OK so who owned Crazy House when it was in Chicago? I always thought that is was owned by Austin Mansur (spelling???). The boat was docked in Diversy Habor for awhile.

lucy
07-26-2009, 11:57 AM
it was owned by a friend of mine Michael Matuschka. yes they are all in the same dock in Diversey harbor in Chicago, my sea-ray used to be there too.

lucy
07-26-2009, 12:49 PM
Austin bought the 50' Nortech Turbine Warbirdgreat boat!!:seeya:

Magic Medicine
07-27-2009, 08:39 AM
great boat!!:seeya:

I have a picture of that one too:sifone::rofl:

lucy
07-27-2009, 11:21 AM
Lookin good!!!

Frank you are doing a good job training the Apache Angel!! She is a natural at it!! love the glasses auntie got for her! :seeya:kisses

lucy
07-29-2009, 05:17 PM
Apache trivia: name the boat?

Sacred Ground
07-29-2009, 05:56 PM
Ultimate Warrior Returns 41'-6 Pack-Full Stagger-#6's
Owned by Bob Biess from Maryland

lucy
07-29-2009, 09:16 PM
:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::)

lucy
07-29-2009, 10:25 PM
how about this one?

J-Bonz
07-29-2009, 10:49 PM
Broken arrow..........................

lucy
07-29-2009, 11:39 PM
:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:;)

lucy
07-30-2009, 12:17 AM
The Indian in this symbol was given a name, what is it?

cashbrain
07-30-2009, 09:31 AM
nickel

lucy
07-30-2009, 09:43 AM
close but no cigar! it is a nickel, but the Indian has a name:)

Geronimo36
07-30-2009, 10:00 AM
El Indio???

Lucy, do you have an image of the Indian head that's inside all the cabins on Bobby's 36' and embroidered on the rear bench seat???

OldSchool
07-30-2009, 10:01 AM
That's an easy one, the Indians name is Reuben!!
I would have thought that Jack would have known that!!! ;)

lucy
07-30-2009, 10:07 AM
That's an easy one, the Indians name is Reuben!!
I would have thought that Jack would have known that!!! ;)

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::si fone::sifone::Good Job Craig:seeya:

Geronimo36
07-30-2009, 10:07 AM
Frank you are doing a good job training the Apache Angel!! She is a natural at it!! love the glasses auntie got for her! :seeya:kisses

Thanks a bunch Lucy!!!

She's growing up so quick and loves the boat! :)

lucy
07-30-2009, 10:19 AM
enjoy her Frank time goes by to fast!!! I do have those Images you want, have to dig them out, will e-mail them to you when I find them.:)

lucy
07-30-2009, 10:45 AM
Where is this boat now and who used to own it?

Sacred Ground
07-30-2009, 01:49 PM
J.H.Electric/Phil Lipship on throttles - 41' Race boat

MahopacMarine
07-30-2009, 01:50 PM
Awsome job guys!!! I just found the thread. It is truly amazing to see such history come back to life and have such an overwhelming response to it.

Way to go!

ar15meister
07-30-2009, 01:50 PM
J.H.Electric - 41' Race boat

where is that boat now?

Flying Dutchman
07-30-2009, 02:14 PM
england

lucy
07-30-2009, 02:29 PM
J.H.Electric/Phil Lipship on throttles - 41' Race boat
:sifone:correct you have half the answer! you have score so far 1 Indian and 1/2!:sifone::sifone:

lucy
07-30-2009, 02:32 PM
england:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone: that is the other half!

lucy
07-30-2009, 02:42 PM
what other Apaches has the owner of this boat own?

Sacred Ground
07-30-2009, 06:15 PM
Broken Arrow-

Craney
07-30-2009, 06:46 PM
Where is this boat now and who used to own it?

That was kidapache old boat, that went over seas.

Lee
07-30-2009, 10:09 PM
what other Apaches has the owner of this boat own?

Broken Arrow
Medicine Man

cashbrain
07-31-2009, 08:42 AM
That's an easy one, the Indians name is Reuben!!
I would have thought that Jack would have known that!!! ;)

Had a lapse...lol

cashbrain
07-31-2009, 08:44 AM
El Indio???

Lucy, do you have an image of the Indian head that's inside all the cabins on Bobby's 36' and embroidered on the rear bench seat???

El Indio is on the side of your boat

lucy
07-31-2009, 10:09 AM
Broken Arrow
Medicine Man:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:

lucy
07-31-2009, 10:28 AM
where is Gail Paik from: a) Japan, b) Korea, c) Philippines

Geronimo36
07-31-2009, 10:33 AM
Lucy, this is the one I'm trying to find. Somehow I lost the original image. this one is a picture I took from a t-shirt.

lucy
07-31-2009, 11:27 AM
Lucy, this is the one I'm trying to find. Somehow I lost the original image. this one is a picture I took from a t-shirt.
thats this one help?

fund razor
07-31-2009, 11:42 AM
He is on my boat.

lucy
07-31-2009, 11:52 AM
looks great!! what is the name of your boat?:)

fund razor
07-31-2009, 12:54 PM
looks great!! what is the name of your boat?:)

Thanks Lucy.

Spirit Warrior

1988 Brave with a Gail Paik job and Bravo Ones. In process of replacing the tank right now (picked it up today)... and in a couple weeks the new power should be done.

I had to get "war" in the name somewhere. ;) Warpath is my favorite. I thought that the name fit the size and the paint pretty well.

Anyway... I'll stop hijacking the Warpath thread with it's baby cousin. :)

Thanks for all the pics.

cashbrain
07-31-2009, 01:02 PM
Anyone know where the name "El Indio" came from? (Lucy..you can't answer):03:

Geronimo36
07-31-2009, 01:54 PM
Anyone know where the name "El Indio" came from? (Lucy..you can't answer):03:

You told me so I wont answer... ;)

ChiefApache
07-31-2009, 02:00 PM
where is Gail Paik from: a) Japan, b) Korea, c) Philippines

I'll guess. Phillippines?

ChiefApache
07-31-2009, 02:03 PM
Anyone know where the name "El Indio" came from? (Lucy..you can't answer):03:

I always thought it stood for one Indian or number 1 Indian? But not sure.

Geronimo36
07-31-2009, 02:26 PM
thats this one help?

Thanks Lucy. I'm trying to find a jpg image of the black/white logo. It's the same as the one in my cabin and on my Geronimo T-shirts. I don't know how I misplaced the image... :(

I want to make it my avatar. :)

2112
07-31-2009, 03:47 PM
what other Apaches has the owner of this boat own?


The proportions on the 47' are absolutely perfect! :drool5:

lucy
07-31-2009, 04:31 PM
I'll guess. Phillippines?Korea!:)

lucy
08-01-2009, 02:42 AM
I agree!
The proportions on the 47' are absolutely perfect! :drool5:

MattBMiller
08-01-2009, 09:45 AM
I agree!

Beautiful boat!

lucy
08-01-2009, 05:06 PM
Beautiful boat!
this is one more of his collection! 41 apache Jester:)

lucy
08-01-2009, 05:08 PM
where is this boat now?

Lee
08-01-2009, 07:03 PM
where is this boat now?

Caveman

Flying Dutchman
08-02-2009, 09:06 AM
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1991-Apache-Powerboats-Comanche-McManus-94922299

ChiefApache
08-02-2009, 10:15 AM
Anyone know where the name "El Indio" came from? (Lucy..you can't answer):03:

Where?

Dean's Customs
08-02-2009, 01:00 PM
A Fist Full of Dollars...

lucy
08-02-2009, 01:16 PM
Caveman:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:!!

lucy
08-02-2009, 01:19 PM
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1991-Apache-Powerboats-Comanche-McManus-94922299:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:!

lucy
08-02-2009, 02:12 PM
what boat has this design on the Hatch?:)

Sacred Ground
08-02-2009, 03:17 PM
Warpath-

lucy
08-02-2009, 03:29 PM
Warpath-
no, warpath is different!

Sacred Ground
08-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Lucy,
You got me-your right

cashbrain
08-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Where?

El Indio came from matches that Ben used in Columbia

lucy
08-02-2009, 10:12 PM
Lucy,
You got me-your right
it goes here!!:)

lucy
08-02-2009, 10:17 PM
by the way what boat was this design copy from?

MattBMiller
08-03-2009, 08:19 AM
it goes here!!:)

What's the deal with the open bow?!?!

ChiefApache
08-03-2009, 08:40 AM
El Indio came from matches that Ben used in Columbia

Really? That's interesting.

ChiefApache
08-03-2009, 08:41 AM
What's the deal with the open bow?!?!

I know, weird, huh? Our friends saw that boat while in FL and sent us a picture of it on their camera phone. We couldnt' believe it. I guess the guy has all the parts to put back on the boat. But still..............:ack2:

Geronimo36
08-03-2009, 09:15 AM
by the way what boat was this design copy from?

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lucy
08-03-2009, 10:59 AM
!!:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:! you got it Frank thanks for the videos:seeya:(this is the same boat):)

lucy
08-03-2009, 11:06 AM
here is a few question for you Apaches enthusiasts! 1) Why on the Banner Boat and Warpath was the exhaust routed above the transom, while on the later boats it is through the transom?

lucy
08-03-2009, 11:09 AM
2) why do later 41 Apache's have a different transom design. Almost like a pad under the drives or a notch cut out, than the Banner boat?:rofl:

lucy
08-03-2009, 11:13 AM
3) any history on this boat before it turned into this one?

lucy
08-03-2009, 11:16 AM
What's the deal with the open bow?!?!

he wanted more sitting space for his family!:confused:

OldSchool
08-03-2009, 11:51 AM
3) any history on this boat before it turned into this one?


I believe that the boat was called Shaka?? Wasn't it the black hull?

lucy
08-03-2009, 12:23 PM
:sifone::sifone: yes the boat was black hull before Team Eddy Guardado painted it. Now a BOW RIDER, recreation of Loren Leible off-shore powerboat Racer from Canada.:) Boat came in from St. Tropez

MattBMiller
08-03-2009, 01:44 PM
The black hull is gorgeous! Inside and out!

cashbrain
08-03-2009, 01:55 PM
3) any history on this boat before it turned into this one?

:cuss:How sad to ruin a beautiful boat...more money than brains

lucy
08-03-2009, 03:56 PM
:cuss:How sad to ruin a beautiful boat...more money than brains
lets be positive cashbrain! that is why God created, blonds, redheads, and brunettes!!:)

Geronimo36
08-03-2009, 04:26 PM
here is a few question for you Apaches enthusiasts! 1) Why on the Banner Boat and Warpath was the exhaust routed above the transom, while on the later boats it is through the transom?

Different transom angle?:confused:

Lucy, I might be heading to Bracco's on the Apache this weekend! :)

Geronimo36
08-03-2009, 04:28 PM
2) why do later 41 Apache's have a different transom design. Almost like a pad under the drives or a notch cut out, than the Banner boat?:rofl:

The notch transom? To allow them to raise the X dimension?:seeya:

Offshoredrillin
08-03-2009, 04:57 PM
:cuss:How sad to ruin a beautiful boat...more money than brains
Loren isn't the type of guy to do anything lightly, everything was kept if he decided to return it back original. Heck, its fiberglass, no different that one that was hurt in a wreck or had a hull split...;)

I would own any boat that was his,no questions asked, than some of the others listed in classifieds.

cashbrain
08-03-2009, 06:30 PM
Not trying to be a jerk...just an old school purist. Do that to a Baja,not an Apache....

lucy
08-03-2009, 07:26 PM
Different transom angle?:confused:

Lucy, I might be heading to Bracco's on the Apache this weekend! :)

my favorite place for clams enjoy it!!! any one else has on opinion on this question?

lucy
08-03-2009, 07:32 PM
The notch transom? To allow them to raise the X dimension?:seeya:
any other theories?

jmak
08-03-2009, 07:45 PM
Puts a little air under the ass. makes it fastah kinda like a step.

Geronimo36
08-03-2009, 08:24 PM
any knotch will allow you to run a higher X without blow-out and sorta acts as an extension box. but is also shortens the running surface at the same time.

Bobby had explained to me a while back his reason for not putting a knotch on my boat.

Curious to know why they did it Lucy.

cashbrain
08-03-2009, 08:29 PM
Puts a little air under the ass. makes it fastah kinda like a step.

Yup...but almost all of the 41's were just a little different. Small production numbers,custom boats and if Ben didn't like you....you would NEVER get a boat.

Chris
08-03-2009, 10:17 PM
Lucy is kicking you boy's a$$es on Apache trivia tonight.


And with all due respect to Lorne and his accomplishments, I cringe when I see that thing. Aside from that, I couldn't imagine riding up there at 60+ mph. Below 60, that Apache lope would beat you up pretty quickly. So it's usable at just above plane.

lucy
08-03-2009, 11:16 PM
Chris I am better behind the wheel!:biggrinjester:

Sean Stinson
08-03-2009, 11:20 PM
2) why do later 41 Apache's have a different transom design. Almost like a pad under the drives or a notch cut out, than the Banner boat?:rofl:

Because the 17 degree angle broke the trim rams on the #3's more than the 11 degree current transom

xlr8by
08-03-2009, 11:35 PM
here is a few question for you Apaches enthusiasts! 1) Why on the Banner Boat and Warpath was the exhaust routed above the transom, while on the later boats it is through the transom?

Anybody?

xlr8by
08-03-2009, 11:36 PM
Because the 17 degree angle broke the trim rams on the #3's more than the 11 degree current transom

which one is better in rough water and or for racing? Did this change have a huge impact on performance?

Sean Stinson
08-03-2009, 11:39 PM
Personally I like the more radical one which seems to have run better but I am sure that I will hear about this one from some of the latter Apache fans!!!!

lucy
08-04-2009, 09:15 AM
Because the 17 degree angle broke the trim rams on the #3's more than the 11 degree current transom

:sifone::sifone::sifone:Sean you score one Indian!!:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::seeya::)

Geronimo36
08-04-2009, 09:25 AM
Lucy, what's the deal on the exhaust above the transom rub-rail? Looks a little bit more bad-azz in my opinion!!!

Well, I was kinda close on the transom angle dangle.... :)

lucy
08-04-2009, 09:41 AM
yes you were very close!! it is the angle of the dangle versus the torque of the dork! :)

Geronimo36
08-04-2009, 11:28 AM
Nice!

ar15meister
08-04-2009, 03:41 PM
:cuss:How sad to ruin a beautiful boat...more money than brains

Probably has more of both than you will ever hope to have!:seeya:

Plus he has everything to put it back together.

With all he has done for Apaches he can do whatever he wants.

Anyone who makes a comment like that about him obviously isnt a 'purist'. Smart ass sounds more like it.

Sorry for the hijack.

MarylandMark
08-04-2009, 03:50 PM
I don't care what you have or don't; bowrider Apache is just plain wrong IMHO but it's his boat and obviously he can and did what he wanted with it.

ar15meister
08-04-2009, 04:25 PM
I don't care what you have or don't; bowrider Apache is just plain wrong IMHO but it's his boat and obviously he can and did what he wanted with it.


I wouldnt do it either but to say Lorne has 'more money than brains' is insulting to a guy who has done alot for the sport and IS the genuiine article, not just some keyboard cowboy. I know it wasnt you that said that though MM.

FYI

He told me the reason he did it was because the girls complained about the 6 pack and usually there were too many to fit and he liked the 6 pack so on days when he goes slow with girls he uses the bowrider and on days when he wants to run 100mph he uses the 6 pack. He loves Apaches and thought it would be cool.

I think making it a 100mph 41 Apache 6 pack bowrider is alot cooler than some guys who buy "center consoles' or switch to a Sea Ray because they are more practical. Guys like Lorne bring the mountain to Mohammed not the other way around.

To put it into perspective, when I bought my first boat at age 24 Lorne offered to fly anywhere in the world to look at any boat I asked him to so that I didnt buy a lemon. I never took him up on it because thats not my style but I can assure you he was 100% serious. He loves power boating, not showing off his money. To offer that assitance to a young guy getting started when you could be banging models and drinking $6000 dollar bottles of champagne in St Tropez next to one of your multiple Enzos shows you the kind of guy he is.

Insulting a guy who is a legend of the sport, especially up here in Canada, dont expect people not to 'correct' the statement.

Ted
08-04-2009, 04:38 PM
Caveman



Caveman has been SOLD. They are replacing it with a Top Gun for VIP rides.

xlr8by
08-04-2009, 04:54 PM
I wouldnt do it either but to say Lorne has 'more money than brains' is insulting to a guy who has done alot for the sport and IS the genuiine article, not just some keyboard cowboy. I know it wasnt you that said that though MM.

FYI

He told me the reason he did it was because the girls complained about the 6 pack and usually there were too many to fit and he liked the 6 pack so on days when he goes slow with girls he uses the bowrider and on days when he wants to run 100mph he uses the 6 pack. He loves Apaches and thought it would be cool.

I think making it a 100mph 41 Apache 6 pack bowrider is alot cooler than some guys who buy "center consoles' or switch to a Sea Ray because they are more practical. Guys like Lorne bring the mountain to Mohammed not the other way around.

To put it into perspective, when I bought my first boat at age 24 Lorne offered to fly anywhere in the world to look at any boat I asked him to so that I didnt buy a lemon. I never took him up on it because thats not my style but I can assure you he was 100% serious. He loves power boating, not showing off his money. To offer that assitance to a young guy getting started when you could be banging models and drinking $6000 dollar bottles of champagne in St Tropez next to one of your multiple Enzos shows you the kind of guy he is.

Insulting a guy who is a legend of the sport, especially up here in Canada, dont expect people not to 'correct' the statement.

Lorne is a stand up guy. The bowrider was written about in Poken Run magazine about 1.5 years ago (I am the guy in the black shirt with Lorne and Mark going for a test run). At the time I was in key west for the world's and my uncle and I were close to buying a 41. He spoke with us answering all the questions we had, then he offered to take me for a ride. Afterwards he gave us his number to ask any additional questions. We later talked to him a couple times for an HOUR or more each time. He couldn't have been more helpful, and kept us from getting in over our heads. The bowrider itself rode great at near 100mph and he can easily convert it back.

MarylandMark
08-04-2009, 05:54 PM
I saw it in KW as well (looks like that is where it is at in post 172 in front of the Galleon). I didn't think why would anyone do that; just that I wouldn't ever do that. Then again- I wouldn't buy a Sunsation MCOB either but that's just me. (Just to clarify- I said nothing about the man)

Airpacker
08-04-2009, 06:13 PM
If you ever met Lorne, you'd understand :)

lucy
08-04-2009, 07:42 PM
Mr. Loren Leible loves his Apaches. This one use to be his:)

lucy
08-04-2009, 07:47 PM
How about a Sun set!;) Beautiful Bonaire!

MattBMiller
08-04-2009, 08:17 PM
How about a Sun set!;) Beautiful Bonaire!

Great pic!

drpete3
08-04-2009, 08:44 PM
How about a Sun set!;) Beautiful Bonaire!
Im getting jealous Lucy

cashbrain
08-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Mr. Loren Leible loves his Apaches. This one use to be his:)

This boat was on 188th forever next to Cig...anyone know where it is now?

lucy
08-04-2009, 10:13 PM
BoraBora, Yap, and the moon in Curacao!

DAREDEVIL
08-04-2009, 11:29 PM
This boat was on 188th forever next to Cig...anyone know where it is now?

ITS FOR SALE !!!!!!!!! 200 K and its yours.

lucy
08-05-2009, 11:07 AM
The transom was changed to 12 degrees.

Gail it was great talking with you this morning as always a got a lot of giggles and first hand information! Hope you stop by here at seriousoffshore.com and have some fun! Kisses:kiss:

OldSchool
08-05-2009, 03:21 PM
Lucy,
Is this the banner boat or the replica that went to Europe??

By the way, GREAT THREAD!!!!!!!! :D :)

xlr8by
08-05-2009, 05:07 PM
Lucy,
Is this the banner boat or the replica that went to Europe??

By the way, GREAT THREAD!!!!!!!! :D :)

Awesome boat any more pics?? Also any idea if it still has this paint job?

lucy
08-05-2009, 06:51 PM
The tan and blue Banner Boat is a sister to the Red Banner Boat. It was made to go to Europe and promoted Apache Engineering, it never return to US. I do not have any more pictures of it. but here are some of the red one.:)

lucy
08-06-2009, 11:09 AM
first 47 apache ?

xlr8by
08-06-2009, 01:19 PM
first 47 apache ?

The yellow one that was confiscated before a race and now owned by a man in NJ, am I correct? This boat still has the original graphics, I saw it as a flag boat at the point pleasant race a while ago.

Bobcat
08-06-2009, 01:32 PM
hammerhead is for sale, is that a one off ? (I know it sank)

ar15meister
08-06-2009, 02:45 PM
hammerhead is for sale, is that a one off ? (I know it sank)

where is the listing?

Bobcat
08-06-2009, 03:06 PM
oso (ssshhhhhh!)

NJgr8ful
08-06-2009, 08:26 PM
The yellow one that was confiscated before a race and now owned by a man in NJ, am I correct? This boat still has the original graphics, I saw it as a flag boat at the point pleasant race a while ago.

:willy_nilly:

boatme
08-06-2009, 09:27 PM
i would like to know more about the white and grey in the fore ground

lucy
08-06-2009, 09:47 PM
The yellow one that was confiscated before a race and now owned by a man in NJ, am I correct? This boat still has the original graphics, I saw it as a flag boat at the point pleasant race a while ago.
:sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone::sifone:

lucy
08-06-2009, 10:00 PM
:willy_nilly::sifone::sifone:The first 47 In Flight!

Geronimo36
08-07-2009, 08:34 AM
Anyone remember when the 47' American Flag Apache was a paceboat in Point Pleasant years ago?

xlr8by
08-07-2009, 08:53 AM
:sifone::sifone:The first 47 In Flight!

Lucy do you remember what type of power and speeds that boat was doing back then? I love the yellow color of that boat :)

ChiefApache
08-07-2009, 08:58 AM
i would like to know more about the white and grey in the fore ground

Me too! That's the first scheme where the head dress goes above the gunnel, plus the paint job looks awesome.

Lucy, you know that boat?

DAREDEVIL
08-07-2009, 09:06 AM
Is the gray one "DREAMCATCHER" ????

lucy
08-07-2009, 11:18 AM
:)
Anyone remember when the 47' American Flag Apache was a paceboat in Point Pleasant years ago?I think this is the one you are talking about!:seeya:47 the old US offshore pace boat

lucy
08-07-2009, 11:29 AM
Me too! That's the first scheme where the head dress goes above the gunnel, plus the paint job looks awesome.

Lucy, you know that boat?
the only thing I know about that boat is that is has a great scheme! I am sure some one here knows! :)

ChiefApache
08-07-2009, 12:05 PM
the only thing I know about that boat is that is has a great scheme! I am sure some one here knows! :)

You are not kidding about the scheme!!! It is great!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the pics.

Geronimo36
08-07-2009, 12:23 PM
its located in Barnegat. tweets revenge

has 3's and NA engines. pain was done by a local guy, real nice!

DAREDEVIL
08-07-2009, 12:30 PM
:)i think this is the one you are talking about!:seeya:47 the old us offshore pace boat

nice paint job .lol

ChiefApache
08-07-2009, 12:41 PM
its located in Barnegat. tweets revenge

has 3's and NA engines. pain was done by a local guy, real nice!

Thanks for the info Frank. I'd love to see the paint in person.

Full pleasure or race cabin?

MattBMiller
08-07-2009, 02:32 PM
nice paint job .lol

Sweet paint, but what's with the tandem axle trailer?! :eek:

ar15meister
08-07-2009, 02:53 PM
Sweet paint, but what's with the tandem axle trailer?! :eek:

not a 41 apache

Geronimo36
08-07-2009, 03:26 PM
:)I think this is the one you are talking about!:seeya:47 the old US offshore pace boat

That's the one! I thought I read somewhere it went overseas?


Thanks for the info Frank. I'd love to see the paint in person.

Full pleasure or race cabin?

Pretty sure it's all pleasure Chief!

The painter that painted the Apache is the same guy who painted the ice cream boat that everyone likes so much... He also painted a local fishing boat, owned by the ice cream boat, and the detail in the paint was unbelievable! It acually looks like you're staring into an aquarium! If you all knew the ice cream boat owner, you'd know why he painted the boat like that.. RIP...

Offshoredrillin
08-07-2009, 03:35 PM
its located in Barnegat. tweets revenge

has 3's and NA engines. pain was done by a local guy, real nice!
tweets revenge is a 47 with blower motors, now known as paleface. and is for sale.

Offshoredrillin
08-07-2009, 03:38 PM
:)I think this is the one you are talking about!:seeya:47 the old US offshore pace boat
this one started out as ptm express then went overseas and was alos the lucky strike boat.

here it is running... http://www.turbinemarine.se/testafilma47.html

Apache 47 Dubbelklicka för fullskärm .. means double click for full screen... it takes a minute to load but well worth it.

DAREDEVIL
08-07-2009, 04:11 PM
Sweet paint, but what's with the tandem axle trailer?! :eek:

LOL,,,,thats my 32 ' boat ,,,i was just refering to the paint cheme. hehe:sifone:

Geronimo36
08-07-2009, 04:15 PM
You are right, his boat is Afton Express.... His nickname is Tweet....:26:

588 cubic inch and #3's...approx 700-750 a side

Geronimo36
08-07-2009, 04:20 PM
this one started out as ptm express then went overseas and was alos the lucky strike boat.

here it is running... http://www.turbinemarine.se/testafilma47.html

Apache 47 Dubbelklicka för fullskärm .. means double click for full screen... it takes a minute to load but well worth it.

Thanks for the link Rob!! I remember seeing it come out of the Pt. Pleasant inlet years ago at one of the races.

By the way, would ya buy an Apache already!!!:26:

Offshoredrillin
08-07-2009, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the link Rob!! I remember seeing it come out of the Pt. Pleasant inlet years ago at one of the races.

By the way, would ya buy an Apache already!!!:26:
working on it as we speak. have my eye on a couple, one 41 and a 47.... if the car business holds up soon..waterfront house first though and finishing up my 20, may sell that right away though.

NJgr8ful
08-07-2009, 06:21 PM
Thanks for the link Rob!! I remember seeing it come out of the Pt. Pleasant inlet years ago at one of the races.

By the way, would ya buy an Apache already!!!:26:
Ditto on the "Rob, Would you buy an Apache already!!" my gosh :26::03::drool5:

Offshoredrillin
08-08-2009, 12:30 AM
Ditto on the "Rob, Would you buy an Apache already!!" my gosh :26::03::drool5:
come on Chris, hasnt paul taught you when I do things I do them right. when the time comes it will be right.

NJgr8ful
08-08-2009, 09:35 AM
come on Chris, hasnt paul taught you when I do things I do them right. when the time comes it will be right.

LOL ... Paul! teach me??? :sifone::biggrinjester::willy_nilly: (I know Rob it will be right, just bustin ballz)

~~Edit~~
BTW, that yellow one with scoops is(would be) 'right' minus the scoops and with a new paint job ;) ;) :)
~End-Edit~~

DAREDEVIL
08-08-2009, 09:38 AM
If Rob knows Paul.........that explains it .LOL

Offshoredrillin
08-08-2009, 01:58 PM
LOL ... Paul! teach me??? :sifone::biggrinjester::willy_nilly: (I know Rob it will be right, just bustin ballz)

~~Edit~~
BTW, that yellow one with scoops is(would be) 'right' minus the scoops and with a new paint job ;) ;) :)
~End-Edit~~
no 3 pak for me..it will 6 and done right ;)

Sean Stinson
08-09-2009, 08:36 AM
yes you were very close!! it is the angle of the dangle versus the torque of the dork! :)

I always thought that the angle of the dangle was directly proportionate to the heat of the beat!!!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone: