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Davidmnc
04-20-2011, 02:09 PM
Here it is, I brought it home yesterday. This is hull # 18-125. Right now there is no engine or drive in the boat. On initial inspection the boat seems solid. I have a 302 making about 275HP that I am planning to put in her now, but there is a 347 that may be a better way to go, but will take more work and money. At this point I am in search of a drive. The original drive was a Volvo 250, and we have that drive but it is junk. My personal preference would be to switch it to an Alpha, but I am not sure that is the best way to go either. Another thought is switching to a Volvo 290 with trim and tilt. Or I could try to find another 250 drive, but I would really like trim. Would tabs work just as well? I have noticed many 270 drives in the world for sale, but they all say they came from a 4cyl engine. What have others done for a drive on these boats?

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rchevelle71
04-20-2011, 04:42 PM
Congrats,

I Know nuthin' about Volvo stuff, have you tried Donzi.net forums yet?

Davidmnc
04-20-2011, 04:59 PM
Congrats,

I Know nuthin' about Volvo stuff, have you tried Donzi.net forums yet?

Yes, I have started a thread there also. Getting some good feed back, but I know lots of you guys around here know'z stuff.

Bobcat
04-20-2011, 07:34 PM
No such thing as too much power !:driving:

Buoy
04-20-2011, 09:07 PM
DAMN!! that thing looks like TONS of fun. Looks like it's in pretty good shape.
I don't know a damn thing about volvo drives Not that I really know much about merc drives either...
I agree, alpha would probably be the way to go, or big power and a #6 - you can never go wrong with that...:smash::sifone:
What about trying a Berkley jet on it?? or hell, an Arneson or KAAMA drive?? Konrad would be too big for that boat. Imco maybe??
Congrats on the boat - looks like it'll be a blast (and economical) when you get her all together, and doesn't looks like it doesn't need all that much (unless you have my disease and start tearing everything apart...:huh:)

MOBILEMERCMAN
04-20-2011, 09:14 PM
Nice find. The best thing to do is fix the drive that's there. Find a used of the same. If you are going to make a change make it to a Bravo. IMO

Congrats. You are going to have a fun boat.

Davidmnc
04-21-2011, 09:07 AM
Thanks guys. I think I have resigned myself to staying with the Volvo. They seem to be tough. I just feel kinda funny not being pushed around by a black drive.

rschap1
04-21-2011, 09:14 AM
Alpha-older one, probably not the ratio you are after though...
http://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/2257797312.html
Bravo 3s??
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/2281640371.html
SM3A
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/boa/2330252441.html
OR SternPower...
http://muskegon.craigslist.org/boa/2337582931.html

Ratickle
04-21-2011, 02:17 PM
Cool Pengy.......

Davidmnc
04-21-2011, 04:22 PM
Cool Pengy.......

Thank you Paul! I wonder if I can get a the Donzi "Z" on the front of Pengy?? Hmmmm

Ratickle
04-21-2011, 09:30 PM
Thank you Paul! I wonder if I can get a the Donzi "Z" on the front of Pengy?? Hmmmm

If you can't, I'm sure we can figure it out one way or another......:D

Donskihp
04-21-2011, 10:03 PM
Theres a sight you might find helpful, its The Donzi Restoration Society http://www.donzi.org/

Davidmnc
04-22-2011, 01:40 PM
Thank you, I have this tread started there also.

mattyboy
04-24-2011, 12:48 AM
the volvo will be stronger than any alpha you'll find. Find a 270 or 250 drive and a solas titan prop . use the boat for a season get use to her. My 250 lasted 35 yrs being pushed by over 300 hp. We have quite a few still running around without trim.

a 280t or a 290 is going to mean taking power tools and or glass work on the transom.

Matty
Lake George Donzi Classic Club

www.lgdonziclassic.com

phragle
04-24-2011, 02:44 AM
I have a volvo AQ100 engine and drive...in good shape........

KMP
04-24-2011, 09:37 AM
Thats a nice older one. A barral-back without the rounded bottom. I'd keep that one stock and original as possible.

MOBILEMERCMAN
04-24-2011, 10:26 AM
Thats a nice older one. A barral-back without the rounded bottom. I'd keep that one stock and original as possible.

I agree.. Its looks to be in great shape and is special.

Ratickle
04-24-2011, 12:33 PM
the volvo will be stronger than any alpha you'll find. Find a 270 or 250 drive and a solas titan prop . use the boat for a season get use to her. My 250 lasted 35 yrs being pushed by over 300 hp. We have quite a few still running around without trim.

a 280t or a 290 is going to mean taking power tools and or glass work on the transom.

Matty
Lake George Donzi Classic Club

www.lgdonziclassic.com

Without trim how was the handling? Did you run with a slight up-configuration and use tabs?

Davidmnc
04-24-2011, 04:57 PM
I am really torn here guys. I love the original look, but have found a transom assembly that will allow me to run a merc drive with out any changes to hole. I know these boats LOVE an Alpha SS shorty drive. And I know that will give me the most speed, but I have found a Volvo 280 with trim and every thing I need to make it work on my boat. And I can get it as cheap, or cheaper than I can find a 250/270 drive. I really want trim on this boat. The other option is to add tabs for trim. But I really plan to do that any way. I really love the classic look of this boat, but the prop selection, and availability of parts for the Merc are hard to resist. I need to just make a decision and go with it. I have lost sleep over this already. LOL I finally get a really cool boat, and just want it to be some thing special.

Davidmnc
04-24-2011, 04:58 PM
I have a volvo AQ100 engine and drive...in good shape........

100hp 4 cly or 350hp stroker motor. I am gonna have to think on this one.:banghead:

Davidmnc
04-24-2011, 04:59 PM
the volvo will be stronger than any alpha you'll find. Find a 270 or 250 drive and a solas titan prop . use the boat for a season get use to her. My 250 lasted 35 yrs being pushed by over 300 hp. We have quite a few still running around without trim.

a 280t or a 290 is going to mean taking power tools and or glass work on the transom.

Matty
Lake George Donzi Classic Club

www.lgdonziclassic.com

I like power tools :D

Davidmnc
04-24-2011, 05:01 PM
I agree.. Its looks to be in great shape and is special.

When I get it done are you gonna ride with me in the Bimini Race?? :driving:

Bobcat
04-24-2011, 05:29 PM
When I get it done are you gonna ride with me in the Bimini Race?? :driving:

:eek:

Davidmnc
04-24-2011, 05:31 PM
:eek:

Some one did it once! Why can't I?? You will ride with me won't you Bob?? :toetap05:

Ratickle
04-24-2011, 07:24 PM
Some one did it once! Why can't I?? You will ride with me won't you Bob?? :toetap05:

Of course he will.


May take the lure of a 24 pack in Bimini to get him there though.....

Bobcat
04-24-2011, 10:14 PM
Some one did it once! Why can't I?? You will ride with me won't you Bob?? :toetap05:

F U C K yeah! :26:

I love an adventure!!!:party:

I'd seriously do it in a heartbeat.

Bobcat
04-24-2011, 10:15 PM
Of course he will.


May take the lure of a 24 pack in Bimini to get him there though.....

And another 24 to get back to the mainland!:D

Davidmnc
04-24-2011, 11:05 PM
F U C K yeah! :26:

I love an adventure!!!:party:

I'd seriously do it in a heartbeat.


And another 24 to get back to the mainland!:D

It's not like no one would know where we were at. And your right. We would need more beer than gas!!! :cheers2:

phragle
04-25-2011, 12:46 AM
100hp 4 cly or 350hp stroker motor. I am gonna have to think on this one.:banghead:

hey..its got twin carbs!! and Im in for the bimini run

rschap1
04-25-2011, 09:21 AM
Blackhawk...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LIKE-NEW-MERCRUISER-BLACKHAWK-SURFACE-DRIVE-/200601119817?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item2eb4c22c49

JJ Apache
04-25-2011, 09:34 AM
David, thats soo Cool! Congrats! All men need a good project!!!

Davidmnc
04-25-2011, 01:11 PM
hey..its got twin carbs!! and Im in for the bimini run

A cat, a Penguin, and a Puppet headed out in the ocean in a 44 Yo 18ft boat. 120 beers, 1 bag of salt and vinegar potato chips, and three pimento cheese sandwiches. Now that sound like a blast!

Davidmnc
04-25-2011, 01:11 PM
David, thats soo Cool! Congrats! All men need a good project!!!

Thank you!

Davidmnc
04-25-2011, 01:12 PM
Blackhawk...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LIKE-NEW-MERCRUISER-BLACKHAWK-SURFACE-DRIVE-/200601119817?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item2eb4c22c49

Me likes! :26:

JJ Apache
04-25-2011, 02:01 PM
A cat, a Penguin, and a Puppet headed out in the ocean in a 44 Yo 18ft boat. 120 beers, 1 bag of salt and vinegar potato chips, and three pimento cheese sandwiches. Now that sound like a blast!

Thats all the beer you're taking????.......:D

Davidmnc
04-25-2011, 02:50 PM
Thats all the beer you're taking????.......:D

I would take more, but we do need to take SOME gas. 69704

Davidmnc
04-25-2011, 02:51 PM
But was planning to pick some up when we got there for the ride back.

JJ Apache
04-25-2011, 03:04 PM
I would take more, but we do need to take SOME gas. 69704

hehe, throw out the chips!! :p

Davidmnc
04-25-2011, 04:09 PM
hehe, throw out the chips!! :p

Hmmm, good idea

Bobcat
04-25-2011, 07:18 PM
David, thats soo Cool! Congrats! All men need a good project!!!

Wow , talk about an opening:D.......I'll behave:p

JJ Apache
04-26-2011, 09:34 AM
Wow , I'll behave:p

That will be entertaining to watch.....:D
:p

Davidmnc
04-26-2011, 01:23 PM
That will be entertaining to watch.....:D
:p

And kinda disappointing.

fund razor
04-28-2011, 11:41 AM
Just saw this David. Congrats.

I have a friend who used to have a 1974 24 foot Donzi Doral with twin SBCs and a pair of Volvo 270s. All things considered, there was nothing wrong with the combination. The Volvo drives actually shifted very smoothly.

Davidmnc
04-28-2011, 03:31 PM
Thanks John. Yesterday we picked up a Volvo 290 with trim and tilt ;)

Madpoodle
05-31-2011, 05:49 AM
Updates???


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rschap1
05-31-2011, 10:11 AM
Been seeing a few Alphas on Ebay lately...