John P and the Bravo Shop

[endeavor1]

Lets get a little more info on the Bravo Shops new owner and what future plans may hold. I know us BT guys need a stronger drive since factory merc stuff doesnt hold up that well for us.

John, lets here what makes your stuff greater than the rest

[John P]

Excellent point Chris

1st off it would be the 5" upper gear set.
2nd would be larger shafts
3rd would be internally cooled drive housing
4th new heat treating process on gears and shafts
5th larger bearings
6th would be all new machining process for housings, both upper and lower will be CNC machined to exact spec.


What else would you like to know?

[Coolerman]

Looks nice John!

Are you doing the billet caps as well?

[John P]

Yes we have those also.

[endeavor1]

Glad to hear the specs on your drive.

John, would you agree that now it is a family ran business with your direct involvement and oversight, this will be a much better product than previous. I would think qauilty control and tolerances would be much better than before, especially with your background in machining and fabrication.

[Coolerman]

Glad to hear the specs on your drive.

John, would you agree that now it is a family ran business with your direct involvement and oversight, this will be a much better product than previous. I would think qauilty control and tolerances would be much better than before, especially with your background in machining and fabrication.

no more, "Ooops, there goes my lower units and brand new 5 blade props!"

[endeavor1]

no more, "Ooops, there goes my lower units and brand new 5 blade props!"

Improper setup and poor workmanship have devastating effects....... :sifone:

[John P]

Glad to hear the specs on your drive.

John, would you agree that now it is a family ran business with your direct involvement and oversight, this will be a much better product than previous. I would think quality control and tolerances would be much better than before, especially with your background in machining and fabrication.

Chris rest assured that I will repair your drives myself and yes they will be perfect.

As we have 2 other shops this is my little project and I will be doing all the drive work myself until I have it where I can train one of my sons to step in and take over.

[endeavor1]

Great to hear that it is a family business and I wish you continued success with this venture.

[John P]

1 more thing to add to the list I have set up a deal with using a power coat that was developed for Caterpillar that will withstand all kinds of chemicals and salt water so all the drives will be getting this process done.

And just so you know it is not Yellow.

[endeavor1]

Can u do this powder coating to older drives?

[John P]

Yes that would not be a problem.

[John P]

Hey guys the new drive temp senders are ready, will get pics up on bravo shop web site in a day or 2.

[Coolerman]

bump, for all of you BT owners looking for upgrades.

[BDARCHER]

The BT had a lower just stop pushing, no grinding or banging. Might need a little help.

[John P]

1-800-79BRAVO

What drives do you have?

[BDARCHER]

1-800-79BRAVO

What drives do you have?

XRs

[John P]

Are you running stock power?
What props?
The XR is a little lite for the BT you may want to think about something else. We can get smoking deals on new xrs if that the way you want to go!

[endeavor1]

Are you running stock power?
What props?
The XR is a little lite for the BT you may want to think about something else. We can get smoking deals on new xrs if that the way you want to go!

I believe bobby told me once that he has 500efi's and 26pitch props. I may be off on the prop though

[BDARCHER]

I believe bobby told me once that he has 500efi's and 26pitch props. I may be off on the prop though

Thats it

[BDARCHER]

Pulled the broke XR lower apart. The vertical shaft broke between the gear and the needle bearing. Gears still look fine. I thought the upper was the weakest link on a heavy BT. Lost the drive 80 miles down river at the Helena King Biscuit Blues Festival on the river. Had to call for the trailer.

[John P]

That also happens. How many hrs on the drive?

[Coolerman]

That also happens. How many hrs on the drive?

You have the upgraded vert shafts now to right?

[BDARCHER]

[QUOTE=John P;527246]1-800-79BRAVO

Been calling. Nobodys picking up.:huh:

[John P]

I just checked the 800# and it is working fine. I didn't show any missed calls the last couple of days. Please try again at 800-792-7286. I am usually available from 7 a.m. - 6 p.m.

[Ratickle]

Pulled the broke XR lower apart. The vertical shaft broke between the gear and the needle bearing. Gears still look fine. I thought the upper was the weakest link on a heavy BT. Lost the drive 80 miles down river at the Helena King Biscuit Blues Festival on the river. Had to call for the trailer.

That sucks......

[endeavor1]

Saxman sucks......

:iagree: :reddevil:

[Coolerman]

:iagree: :reddevil:

Whats up colon man? You feelin better?

[endeavor1]

Whats up colon man? You feelin better?

Only as good as I can right now.... Had to go running in the house shortly after i got off the phone with you. "no honey, i wasnt working on the chevelle" ..... :huh:

[Coolerman]

Only as good as I can right now.... Had to go running in the house shortly after i got off the phone with you. "no honey, i wasnt working on the chevelle" ..... :huh:

Rotflmao!!!!! you gotta be "chitting" me....... I would have guessed that you would have been running in the house for other "Oh chit" reasons.......... :03:

All kidding aside, glad to hear you are doing better.



Sorry for the hi-jack! Back to Bmax talk! :D

[Ratickle]

Rotflmao!!!!! you gotta be "chitting" me....... I would have guessed that you would have been running in the house for other "Oh chit" reasons.......... :03:

All kidding aside, glad to hear you are doing better.



Sorry for the hi-jack! Back to Bmax talk! :D

You need to explain your sig line quote from Chris to the rest of us.......


Hopefully nothing to do with your colon comment......:D:ack2::D

[Coolerman]

You need to explain your sig line quote from Chris to the rest of us.......


Hopefully nothing to do with your colon comment......:D:ack2::D

Haha, I probably shouldn't be giving Chris a hard time. He was/is actually pretty sick.

[BDARCHER]

John you should get the broke XR lower today.

[Coolerman]

John you should get the broke XR lower today.

Glad to see that you sent it to him.

[John P]

John you should get the broke XR lower today.

Got it yesterday will look
at it on Monday. Driving 500 miles today for a funeral.

[endeavor1]

goodcoice Bobby, John will take care of you. Sax, Paul, Im doing much better now.

[Ratickle]

goodcoice Bobby, John will take care of you. Sax, Paul, Im doing much better now.

Good to hear.....

[BDARCHER]

Looks Good. As soon as it warms up a little. Ill get the other XR off and shipped up to get a check up. Thanks

[endeavor1]

Glad to hear your boats back and running Bobby.

[BDARCHER]

John you already build the BMAX drive. You can also build the BTs. What do ya say.

[John P]

John you already build the BMAX drive. You can also build the BTs. What do ya say.

You buy it and I will build them. Don't be cutting out the Coolerman I heard they where looking at it pretty hard!

[endeavor1]

Yea, sax could make a 46 gt-x canopy boat

[John P]

Here are some pics of the lower gears I took out of my standard housings, they have 60+ hours on them in a 46 BT triple 850's and then they were installed on a 38 Power Play and they look great. Before I started my special cryo/heat treat they where only lasting 6-10 hrs. These are now going in some shorty housing I have and with our new lower unit grease.

69305

69306

69307

69308

[endeavor1]

Awesome

[sweet addiction]

Very sweet!

[endeavor1]

Johns building me a new trailer. Pics to follow.

[endeavor1]

up and off :hurray:

[endeavor1]

back down on blocks

[BDARCHER]

Nice hoist

[Ratickle]

That is a cool hoist.......



John, looking for a 2" shorty for a XR. Got anything sitting around?

[endeavor1]

He's at ds right now Paul. I know he has some on his boat now. I'll ask him to update u when I talk to him 2morrow

[Ratickle]

He's at ds right now Paul. I know he has some on his boat now. I'll ask him to update u when I talk to him 2morrow

Thanks,


Wish I were out at DS. But, two weeks and we'll be in Biloxi.....:03:

[Coolerman]

Thanks,


Wish I were out at DS. But, two weeks and we'll be in Biloxi.....:03:

You goin to the Loto Shootout this year Paul?

[Ratickle]

You goin to the Loto Shootout this year Paul?

You gonna keep your Dad from getting DQ'd?????????:toetap05:



:sifone::sifone::sifone:

[endeavor1]

You gonna keep your Dad from getting DQ'd?????????:toetap05:



:sifone::sifone::sifone:

Oh snap.....:03: :26: :beatdeadhorse5: :reddevil: :rofl:

[endeavor1]

:biggrinjester:

[Nevr2nd]

:biggrinjester:

Is this the new Modular Home you are building?? How many bedrooms and baths??lmao!!

[Coolerman]

You gonna keep your Dad from getting DQ'd?????????:toetap05:



:sifone::sifone::sifone:

OMFG..... lmao :26::26: No senior moments this year! :banghead:

[Coolerman]

Is this the new Modular Home you are building?? How many bedrooms and baths??lmao!!

I think Chris will fit in well in the new neighborhood.

[Ratickle]

I think Chris will fit in well in the new neighborhood.

I like it...........:26:

[Nevr2nd]

I think Chris will fit in well in the new neighborhood.

Lmfao!!!I:iagree:

[endeavor1]

alright phuckers...... :26: I just finally saw my "modular" home thread/derail. :D

Spent part of the week at the Bravo Shop/Johns. Found some neat stuff, and somehow I kept confusing "No-Compromise" with my own boat. (Paint jobs look the same John said) :D

Oh yea, got some more NEO oil from John to convert my Dads boat over. Temp/breakdown testing from Merc oil and NEO to begin using my BT as a test bed. :driving:

And just for you Nay sayers, YES!!! i did do something. I put on new brakes, bearings, races, an even welded a little. My welding scared John but he let it slide. Cant say enough about the trailer. Just thrilled about it.

[Coolerman]

alright phuckers...... :26: I just finally saw my "modular" home thread/derail. :D

Spent part of the week at the Bravo Shop/Johns. Found some neat stuff, and somehow I kept confusing "No-Compromise" with my own boat. (Paint jobs look the same John said) :D

Oh yea, got some more NEO oil from John to convert my Dads boat over. Temp/breakdown testing from Merc oil and NEO to begin using my BT as a test bed. :driving:

And just for you Nay sayers, YES!!! i did do something. I put on new brakes, bearings, races, an even welded a little. My welding scared John but he let it slide. Cant say enough about the trailer. Just thrilled about it.

Looks nice, Dennis was very impressed! That's cool that the trailer is capped and filled with N2, nice touch John :cool:

[endeavor1]

Looks nice, Dennis was very impressed! That's cool that the trailer is capped and filled with N2, nice touch John :cool:

Trailer was capped but not filled with N2. Change in plan. :willy_nilly:

[John P]

Someone keeps cutting my budget. LOL

Now that I know how good of painter your 3 year old is I will give you a call next time I have painting to do.

[endeavor1]

Someone keeps cutting my budget. LOL

Now that I know how good of painter your 3 year old is I will give you a call next time I have painting to do.

LMFAO.....:biggrinjester: His work is pretty cashy.. :bump: That gimble turned out well though

[Monopoly 46]

endeavor1 were u staying at this weekend???? for the dam to dam run

[John P]

New Bmax for NRG boats.72336



Making billet adapter plates for 25 more Bmax's.
72337

[Coolerman]

Looks awesome, nice work polishing that lower unit..... Polishing is too much fun!

[endeavor1]

Nice Looking John!!!!








Jason, must u always alke about polishing lower units? I know its a personal choice and all but come on......... lol

[offshoreexcursion]

Well.... when you get as much practice as him polishing lower units...... LOL

[Ratickle]

New Bmax for NRG boats.72336



Making billet adapter plates for 25 more Bmax's.
72337


That's sweet John... Will it be going on a 30' open bow??????

[Monopoly 46]

That's sweet John... Will it be going on a 30' open bow??????

I think it will be on the 38 poker run edt.
brett

[John P]

As Brett said the 38.

[Coolerman]

Where did the NRG boats come from? I haven't seen them before. Was wondering where the profile molds went.

[Ratickle]

I didn't know they were ready with a 38'.

They haven't said a whole lot though about anything......


I had actually figured they would get some 30's out there before tackling any of the other sizes....

[endeavor1]

Anything happening at Bmaxville? Havent seen or heard out of John in a while. Whats shaking bud?

[Coolerman]

I know shipped me out some of that #6 oil!

[John P]

Just working Chris.
How was your X-mas?
DON'T FORGET ABOUT MY BIRTHDAY NEXT WEEK, just giving you a heads up so maybe you can get me something. ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ................................
My BT is getting dusty with out its cover.

[John P]

I know shipped me out some of that #6 oil!

Jason I just read my mail I will get the #6 oil sent out today.

Happy New Year!!

[Coolerman]

My BT is getting dusty with out its cover.

I bet Chris would trade it for some gauges!:willy_nilly::willy_nilly::sifone::sifone::huh::26:;)

[endeavor1]

Just working Chris.
How was your X-mas?
DON'T FORGET ABOUT MY BIRTHDAY NEXT WEEK, just giving you a heads up so maybe you can get me something. ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ................................
My BT is getting dusty with out its cover.

Cover shipped yesterday. Should be there today by 3pm. 1Z3F8A790352229006 is the tracking number. Sorry it took me forever.

Xmas was good.Brayden got lots of presents as did momma. I got a new truck last month so Im quite content. lol

[Coolerman]

But can that new truck give you blowjobs while you drive?.... HONK HONK

[John P]

I bet Chris would trade it for some gauges!:willy_nilly::willy_nilly::sifone::sifone::huh::26:;)
Maybe he should have taken them when he was here! LOL

[Ratickle]

But can that new truck give you blowjobs while you drive?.... HONK HONK

I am not touching this one.


Good thing it's not in the BT owner bashing thread......

[John P]

Here are the lower bearing pics, These have 65hrs on them and still look like new!
I pulled the driven gear bearing race to get a better pic.
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[John P]

Ok I had some time to pull my drives and disassemble them to check out how the Bravo Shop oil did and all I can say is WOW. This lower set has 65hrs and the uppers have 200hrs on them, keep in mind that this is 850hp and in a BT. I will take the other 2 drives apart that had 80 hrs on them when I change oil and now have 125hrs on them. This oil is amazing to say the least!! The oil looks as good as new that I drained out.
7318673187731887318973190

[Ratickle]

In case some of you haven't seen the introduction story on this oil, here is a link to the Spotlight's article.

http://www.seriousoffshore.com/the-bravo-shop-inc/

[Coolerman]

I heard this new oil makes #6's explode though!..... lol We will be running John's oil in our 6's this summer :-)

[John P]

I heard this new oil makes #6's explode though!..... lol We will be running John's oil in our 6's this summer :-)

If you are not around I'm sure it will be easier for Dennis to keep it all together. :driving:

[Coolerman]

If you are not around I'm sure it will be easier for Dennis to keep it all together. :driving:

Oh yes, because as you witnessed first hand, he babies the sticks much more than I do...... lmao

[John P]

Oh yes, because as you witnessed first hand, he babies the sticks much more than I do...... lmao

I know right, LOL

How is the new job working out for you?

[Ratickle]

Maybe you should make some of your good gears for a #6 to go with your oil if Jason's gonna drive.....

Especially if he's wearing his hocky mask when on the sticks.....

[endeavor1]

How is the new job working out for you?

MWOR 1.10 and GCOR 1.10(union rules)

Saxman is prevented from using electronic devices at work to access the internet per FRA notice 24 (gay guy texting BFF in California ran Amtrak into a UP and killed 29 people)

I however am not so..... He is doing well..... lol

[endeavor1]

Among other things.... I am still impressed with Bravo shop oil so I have requested more to do another set of B-1's. May even stick my temp guages on this boat to see how the oil works non neo vs. Neo.


John, sound like a plan? and did you find a thrust washer for me?

[John P]

I will look today, the rest of your parts will be in tomorrow.

[endeavor1]

I will look today, the rest of your parts will be in tomorrow.

No need for thrust washer now... TY

[Coolerman]

MWOR 1.10 and GCOR 1.10(union rules)

Saxman is prevented from using electronic devices at work to access the internet per FRA notice 24 (gay guy texting BFF in California ran Amtrak into a UP and killed 29 people)

I however am not so..... He is doing well..... lol

BOR next week in Fargo/Dillworth. 30 more days till the Union owns me.......

[endeavor1]

BOR next week in Fargo/Dillworth. 30 more days till the COMPANY owns me....... Changed it for you so you will remeber who you work for....:reddevil:

[Ratickle]

BOR next week in Fargo/Dillworth. 30 more days till the Union owns me.......


BOR next week in Fargo/Dillworth. 30 more days till the COMPANY owns me.......



Changed it for you so you will remember who you work for....:reddevil:

Glad you straightened him out......

[endeavor1]

Glad you straightened him out......

He needs the guidance at times........ :smash:

Myself on the other hand... well, theres no helping some causes...:seeya:

[Coolerman]

ohh lmao.... "I've only got a couple years before retirement, don't phuckin kill me now!" hahaha

[Ratickle]

ohh lmao.... "I've only got a couple years before retirement, don't phuckin kill me now!" hahaha


You're not even in the union yet and you're already thinking about retirement??????:eek:

[endeavor1]

You're not even in the union yet and you're already thinking about retirement??????:eek:

redirecting this to another thread....

[Ratickle]

Good idea. Back on track.....


http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww310/ptrose/Misc%20and%20Personal%20Boats/BMAX.jpg

[endeavor1]

ANy new pix of the shop?