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fobes
04-27-2010, 11:10 AM
Anyone know the current whereabouts of this one? Anyone have any more pics?
Thanks: Matt

Bobcat
04-27-2010, 03:32 PM
Was it Special Edition before ?

Ryan Beckley
04-27-2010, 03:41 PM
NO.... two different boats

Black Tornado
04-27-2010, 04:44 PM
Here two

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3121/10560282.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/10560282.jpg/)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6500/hawkmarinepower89.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/i/hawkmarinepower89.jpg/)


In 1990 it should become this.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8906/35449977.th.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/35449977.jpg/)

fobes
04-27-2010, 06:24 PM
Thanks all. It became the Ferrari boat? Is that boat still around?

Bobcat
04-27-2010, 10:45 PM
Good info Ryan and Marco !

skrap
04-28-2010, 01:29 AM
I believe that Special Edition is now Rolling Thunder.

John

boatme
04-28-2010, 05:15 AM
Anyone remember "Team Believer"

Bobcat
04-28-2010, 07:46 AM
I believe that Special Edition is now Rolling Thunder.

John

yes, in New Jersey somewhere.

Bodyshot1
04-28-2010, 07:56 AM
great looking rides..Rolling Thunder in Point Pleasant NJ..Arnolds Marine...

h2oMag
04-28-2010, 09:18 AM
Anyone remember "Team Believer"

:huh: This Image cat Marc.:sifone:

Ryan Beckley
04-28-2010, 10:11 AM
Believer is an Image / Baja/ Express.......

relible one
04-28-2010, 11:15 AM
The last time I seen the boat that mandy ran,it sank in a race and when they pulled it out of the water there was a shark in the bilige flopping around...that was the last time i seen the boat...Bob

Gladhe8er
04-28-2010, 12:48 PM
The last time I seen the boat that mandy ran,it sank in a race and when they pulled it out of the water there was a shark in the bilige flopping around...that was the last time i seen the boat...Bob

Wow, that's crazy!

h2oMag
04-28-2010, 02:00 PM
The last time I seen the boat that mandy ran,it sank in a race and when they pulled it out of the water there was a shark in the bilige flopping around...that was the last time i seen the boat...Bob

Yep, :iagree: I never saw someone jump out the boat so fast. :willy_nilly: Bob I believe that was the OPT race at Coco Beach Fl.

Ryan Beckley
04-28-2010, 02:46 PM
Yea but I think it won the next race after that in Marathon? or was that after???

Freezeframevideo
04-28-2010, 02:52 PM
this dvd is from that race jeff


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allez vite apache Coco Bch by www.freezeframevideo sku#71 space coast offshore challenge

Link to dvd http://www.freezeframe.us/videos.cfm...=1&SubCatID=26
OPT Space Coast Offshore Challenge May 19,1991 All Classes {rough Water}

bill63
04-28-2010, 03:16 PM
Mandy had 2 identical painted Jags in 1990 the old hawk boat and a newer one with a open lid canopy. He crashed the newer boat in 1991 after his win in marathon i believe that was it for Mandy as he went away to school. I do not believe he had the older jag(hawk) in 1991. I remember hearing he was leasing the old Jag from jack clark while the new one was being built.

Black Tornado
04-28-2010, 06:03 PM
Mandy had 2 identical painted Jags in 1990 the old hawk boat and a newer one with a open lid canopy. He crashed the newer boat in 1991 after his win in marathon i believe that was it for Mandy as he went away to school. I do not believe he had the older jag(hawk) in 1991. I remember hearing he was leasing the old Jag from jack clark while the new one was being built.

Yep bill63. Here the two boats at Montecarlo Worlds in 1990 and a comparison of the two different canopies-back.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5043/montecarlo90.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/montecarlo90.jpg/)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2081/montecarlo90ferrari.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/i/montecarlo90ferrari.jpg/)

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8757/montecarlo90ferrari2.jpg (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/montecarlo90ferrari2.jpg/)

Steve 1
04-28-2010, 09:51 PM
Yep bill63. Here the two boats at Montecarlo Worlds in 1990 and a comparison of the two different canopies-back.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5043/montecarlo90.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/montecarlo90.jpg/)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2081/montecarlo90ferrari.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/i/montecarlo90ferrari.jpg/)

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8757/montecarlo90ferrari2.jpg (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/montecarlo90ferrari2.jpg/)


It was the old thriller boat he was using ,the first Plastic Jaguar.

Offshore Ginger
04-29-2010, 08:10 PM
The last time I seen the boat that mandy ran,it sank in a race and when they pulled it out of the water there was a shark in the bilige flopping around...that was the last time i seen the boat...Bob Bobby what's up and how have you been ?:seeya:

relible one
04-30-2010, 03:00 PM
Great Art,things are starting to turn around for in detroit,Hope all is well for you on the westside....Bob

Offshore Ginger
04-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Great Art,things are starting to turn around for in detroit,Hope all is well for you on the westside....BobBobby very slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww money is very tight , but better then last year. Bob , when was the last time you were at Skater ?

FLYING FISH
05-11-2010, 09:00 AM
Thriller (the airex one) became Coors Light Silver Bullett (Craig Barrie) then Ferrari. Confirmed in a Jaguar write up in Hotboat.
The new lighter Ferrari became Toshiba then Snack Attack as confirmed by the co driver of Snack Attack at the 2001 Key West race, and also confirmed by an article on Toshiba which states it was the ex-Ferrari that raced at the 1990 Monaco Worlds.
Another report states that 1990 Bay City had both Ferrari boats,the brand new lighter one and the old Ferrari (crewed by Mandy`s brother David and Craig Barrie).
I would have liked to post the evidence ,but the files are too large to post.
There are many unanswered questions on the history of Jaguar boats,and one day will try to sort them out.

bill63
05-11-2010, 10:39 AM
Manny did bring the 2 Jags to bay city that year i also raced that race, the backup or older Jag started the race with 2 crew members and quickly retired. I am pretty sure craig barrie was not there. He also brought both boats to the two other michigan races that year although if i remember corectly one of the Jags trailer broke on the way to the race and never made it. Seams like the older Jag thriller/coors/hawk/ferreri did race again under another name in key west in 1991 but not sure maybe heavy metal

Dueclaws
05-11-2010, 11:39 AM
Interesting info!

Offshore Ginger
05-11-2010, 11:45 AM
Manny did bring the 2 Jags to bay city that year i also raced that race, the backup or older Jag started the race with 2 crew members and quickly retired. I am pretty sure craig barrie was not there. He also brought both boats to the two other michigan races that year although if i remember corectly one of the Jags trailer broke on the way to the race and never made it. Seams like the older Jag thriller/coors/hawk/ferreri did race again under another name in key west in 1991 but not sure maybe heavy metalI remember watching those races on the Saginaw bay and if memory serves me right the pits were at Bay Harbor Marina in Bay City .

bill63
05-11-2010, 12:40 PM
yep they were at bay harbour that year, rough conditions in 1990 i stuffed my cat so hard i had mud on the tips from the bottom of the lake OUCH !

Offshore Ginger
05-11-2010, 02:44 PM
yep they were at bay harbour that year, rough conditions in 1990 i stuffed my cat so hard i had mud on the tips from the bottom of the lake OUCH !Ouch is right and the Saginaw Bay really never was that deep untill you got father out on Lake Huron there use to be some good racing there for many years but all good things come to an end .:driving:

Steve 1
05-11-2010, 07:28 PM
Thriller (the airex one) became Coors Light Silver Bullett (Craig Barrie) then Ferrari. Confirmed in a Jaguar write up in Hotboat.
The new lighter Ferrari became Toshiba then Snack Attack as confirmed by the co driver of Snack Attack at the 2001 Key West race, and also confirmed by an article on Toshiba which states it was the ex-Ferrari that raced at the 1990 Monaco Worlds.
Another report states that 1990 Bay City had both Ferrari boats,the brand new lighter one and the old Ferrari (crewed by Mandy`s brother David and Craig Barrie).
I would have liked to post the evidence ,but the files are too large to post.
There are many unanswered questions on the history of Jaguar boats,and one day will try to sort them out.

A couple things, the Thriller was 2500# when built in 86 so it was much lighter than Ferrari and It was also running in Ferrari paint when it won the APBA world title also side note Manny liked to run a little trim tab which stuffed him in Daytona and Thriller was known as Toshiba the last I Heard and was in New Jersey.

skrap
05-11-2010, 09:44 PM
I saw Toshiba at Arnold's Yacht Basin, Point Pleasant, NJ along with the Rolling Thunder Jaguar.

Steve 1
05-11-2010, 10:15 PM
I saw Toshiba at Arnold's Yacht Basin, Point Pleasant, NJ along with the Rolling Thunder Jaguar.

Rolling thunder maybe Special Edition.

skrap
05-12-2010, 08:48 AM
Yes, the Rolling Thunder Jaguar was Special Edition.

Crash-Box
05-12-2010, 09:05 AM
Don't forget Bill Giffords "SUNOCO"

FLYING FISH
05-12-2010, 09:47 AM
Toshiba was referred to as ex-Ferrari that raced in Monaco.Looking at some photos I took at Monaco the 2nd Ferrari that raced in 1991 and the back end of 1990 (boat had the cowls behind the cockpit) was also the one that actually raced in Monaco.The 1990 APBA winner (no cowls) was left on the dock.So from that,it would appear that the second Ferrari became Snack Attack (it had the cowls in Key West 2001),and Toshiba was ex first Ferrari ex-the Airex Thriller/Coors boat.Can`t find any reference to say it had also been the red Hawk Power which was at the 1989 Atlantic City Worlds.
I have Sunoco as being the ex-Special Edition before it became Rolling Thunder,unless told otherwise.

1waterboy1
05-12-2010, 12:09 PM
The 35FT Jaguar "Rolling Thunder" would be an ideal OPA Class 2 or Class 3 boat; I would love to see Arnold and Dave bring back out of retirement again.

Dueclaws
05-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Wow, that's very light for a Jag!


A couple things, the Thriller was 2500# when built in 86 so it was much lighter than Ferrari and It was also running in Ferrari paint when it won the APBA world title also side note Manny liked to run a little trim tab which stuffed him in Daytona and Thriller was known as Toshiba the last I Heard and was in New Jersey.

Steve 1
05-12-2010, 01:03 PM
Wow, that's very light for a Jag!

Yes and back then it was a lot of work.

skrap
05-12-2010, 02:18 PM
I was with Dave at the SBI event in New York, last September. He has more fun with his friends on his Cigarette than he does racing the Jaguar at a fraction of the price. It's several thousand dollars for each race, and that's if nothing goes wrong (set-up, fees, crew, fuel, etc)

lucky strike
05-12-2010, 06:29 PM
I saw Toshiba at Arnold's Yacht Basin, Point Pleasant, NJ along with the Rolling Thunder Jaguar.

Toshiba is being converted in to a pleasure boat as we speak.

DAREDEVIL
05-12-2010, 07:30 PM
Toshiba is being converted in to a pleasure boat as we speak.

Any pics.?..would love to see some !!!:cheers2:

lucky strike
05-12-2010, 07:43 PM
Arnold just walked into my house, he said anybody who wants to buy the Rolling Thunder Baja, which has been coverted to a pleasure boat & Rolling Thunder Too which is the old Special Addition still a race boat or Toshiba which is the original Ferrari, now being converted into a pleasure boat. Call Bobby at 954-328-2022

bill63
05-12-2010, 08:01 PM
I would love to know how many layers of paint is on that boat got to be a few

Offshore Ginger
05-12-2010, 08:03 PM
Arnold just walked into my house, he said anybody who wants to buy the Rolling Thunder Baja, which has been coverted to a pleasure boat & Rolling Thunder Too which is the old Special Addition still a race boat or Toshiba which is the original Ferrari, now being converted into a pleasure boat. Call Bobby at 954-328-2022could you post some pics ?

lucky strike
05-12-2010, 09:40 PM
could you post some pics ?

Of the boats or of Arnold.?

DAREDEVIL
05-12-2010, 09:49 PM
Of the boats or of Arnold.?

HAHAHAHA:rolleyes::sifone:

Offshore Ginger
05-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Of the boats or of Arnold.?Arnold .

Offshore Ginger
05-12-2010, 10:16 PM
Arnold . Yea ....right ......the boats and the changes that have been done .

lucky strike
05-12-2010, 11:21 PM
HAHAHAHA:rolleyes::sifone:

:cheers2:

Griswald
05-13-2010, 09:21 PM
:lurk5:

imco offshore
05-13-2010, 09:43 PM
do you mean the real reason why he hasn,t picked up his engine hatch from the fiberglass man??????

imco offshore
05-13-2010, 09:50 PM
ooo i see ,, he has fiberglass man trouble right here in sarasota,,,he don,t need to go far..

Bobcat
05-26-2010, 09:32 AM
Another pic of the Ferrari Jag.

Sean Stinson
05-29-2010, 11:47 AM
The last time I seen the boat that mandy ran,it sank in a race and when they pulled it out of the water there was a shark in the bilige flopping around...that was the last time i seen the boat...Bob

that was Cocoa Beach 1991 era I believe stuffed right next to Allez Vite and Meanstreak and 41st Airborne I believe were the 3 Apaches running close behind!!.... It was big water I remember that much!!!!!:sifone::sifone::sifone:

littlenige
09-23-2010, 10:46 AM
Pic from Offshore Worldwide magazine...............

Bobcat
09-23-2010, 11:44 AM
Great photo, heartbreaking but a great pic!