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cigdaze
01-23-2010, 11:33 AM
Hey fellas,
I discovered I have an ever-so-slight leak coming from my external hydraulic ram. I see a couple drops on the ground where my boat is stored, and a small drop of red fluid dangling from where the piston meets the cylinder.
See photo for location.
I discovered this last night. The boat's been sitting for about 2 weeks, and prior to last night's finding I had no indication of any leaking. This is new.
I wiped everything up at the site of the leak and dried it completely. I fired the steering motor and actuated the steering full left to full right about 50 times. I saw no fluid or leaking. But after it sat all night, I see a drop dangling from the seal there again. Again, it's only like a drop or two on the ground.
The reservoir is full, so there's no major loss of fluid, just a few drops.
Also, the steering behaves perfectly normally and is tight.
(1)Is this something you guy would consider a simple nuisance leak or something more serious to be concerned with?
(2)What's the fluid? I assume it's ATF by look and feel.
Thanks in advance.
BBB725
01-23-2010, 11:45 AM
ATF is what's in mine, You can run it but get it fixed cause if oil can get out salt water can get in.
DAREDEVIL
01-23-2010, 11:56 AM
Salt water will not get it, the only reason oil gets out on a small leak like that is because there is over 1000 PSI on it !!!!!!!
Its an o-ring under the threaded part of the flange. EASY FIX, o-ring u can buy at NAPA !!!! or any hydraulic shop !!!!
cigdaze
01-23-2010, 12:09 PM
Thanks guys. I appreciate it.
Geronimo36
01-23-2010, 03:00 PM
Salt water will not get it, the only reason oil gets out on a small leak like that is because there is over 1000 PSI on it !!!!!!!
Its an o-ring under the threaded part of the flange. EASY FIX, o-ring u can buy at NAPA !!!! or any hydraulic shop !!!!
Not when the engine is off and you're sitting at the bar having cocktails! ;)
If it were me I'd probably run it for the weekend and keep an eye on the levels but get new seals and scrapers. You can probably do it yourself!:driving:
Good luck, enjoy the weather!
cigdaze
01-23-2010, 03:10 PM
Thanks again. Had a great ride. Alls normal. Were at hula bay. Beautiful out here. Ill get it taken care of tomorrow.
Chris
01-23-2010, 03:39 PM
They don't typically "just go bad". You may have a ding on the shaft somewhere that's cut the wiper. That's alot more than an o-ring in there. Those are double-acting cylinders and they'll have either T-seals or polypaks on the piston and the cap. Will have a wiper in the cap too. You have to be careful not to nick the seal on reassembly- they probabaly have female threads in the cap and if the bore isn't chamfered well on the tube, you can scuff the seal- and it's done. Thake a look at the bores- they need to be free of any longitudinal marks. You can mildly hone them with a brake cylinder hone on a drill but extension. Slow speed, correct cutting oil and fine stones. Then a very thorough cleaning.
DAREDEVIL
01-23-2010, 07:19 PM
I cleaned mine with a scotch brite and it worked perfect. The o-ring right behind the cap was gone on mine ,,,same slow leak !!!
U be amazed how simple a trim cylinder is , once u open it up .LOL
MOBILEMERCMAN
01-23-2010, 09:17 PM
Is it Latham? Give them a call.
Is it Latham? Give them a call.
Yes...Give'um a call if Latham. Great company to deal with.
Geronimo36
01-24-2010, 08:41 AM
U be amazed how simple a trim cylinder is , once u open it up .LOL
No doubt, I thought the same thing!!!
These are easy by comparison having rebuilt a 10 ft (closed) hydraulic ram for the forklift at the marina! :)
cigdaze
01-24-2010, 11:31 AM
They don't typically "just go bad". You may have a ding on the shaft somewhere that's cut the wiper. That's alot more than an o-ring in there. Those are double-acting cylinders and they'll have either T-seals or polypaks on the piston and the cap. Will have a wiper in the cap too. You have to be careful not to nick the seal on reassembly- they probabaly have female threads in the cap and if the bore isn't chamfered well on the tube, you can scuff the seal- and it's done. Thake a look at the bores- they need to be free of any longitudinal marks. You can mildly hone them with a brake cylinder hone on a drill but extension. Slow speed, correct cutting oil and fine stones. Then a very thorough cleaning.
Many thanks guys.
Chris, the piston is smooth and uniform. I looked it over very carefully at full extension - No scratches, scars, nicks or anything evident.
cigdaze
01-24-2010, 11:32 AM
Is it Latham? Give them a call.
No. It's a WPM system.
Chris
01-24-2010, 11:38 AM
Not the piston, the rod. Thats where the nicks would be.
cigdaze
01-24-2010, 11:48 AM
Not the piston, the rod. Thats where the nicks would be.
Sorry, that's what I meant - the external visible polished rod at full extension.
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