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Bilgerat
01-22-2010, 12:21 AM
Okay, I have heard a 500HP limit in class 6, Could someone post what they know about the boats that are to be in six. and thier respective powerplants. The only boat I know anything about is Smith Bros. which has a 496 with Headers. How is this determined as well, Just as a class we all look at the motor and agree that it is making 500 hp.? I am looking at mimicking an HP 500 carb. as i have carb, and intake, and several other components to get there, ( still need a 502 block to build ) just wondering what else will be in the class.

Fast Shafts
01-22-2010, 12:43 AM
Cottner Trailers, 26' Corsa, 496 425 HP Class Champs
Wazzup 24' Carrera ? power plant
Lock'd Up, 24' Sunsation, 496 Gen IV BBC never dynoed-450 Horse??
Not Guilty, 26' Warlock, 500 HP Merc
Bat Boat Grey, 24' unknown power
Bat Boat Red, 24' unknown power
Bat Boat Purple, 24' unknown power
Akula 24' Baja Tyler Crockett Big block-unknown power

New boats coming out in class 6
24' Sunsation-the old Not Guilty boat unknown power
24' P&D, Hurricane detailing unknown power
24' Carrera

Bilge,
What hull do you have? Welcome to OPA and Class 6!!
Bob G 606 Lock'd Up

ricochet myk
01-22-2010, 08:01 AM
We are looking at class 5 or 6, 24' pantera w/ a Smitty built motor. And a crazy azz throttleman !:eek: mike

rchevelle71
01-22-2010, 08:52 AM
We are looking at class 5 or 6, 24' pantera w/ a Smitty built motor. And a crazy azz throttleman !:eek: mike

Mike,

let me know when ya wanna test that thing, so I can go out and get some video for ya:sifone:

Rick

Bilgerat
01-22-2010, 10:10 AM
Does a "Smitty Built" 500 hp motor, make a difference over say a "Me built" 500 hp motor, or a "Crocket Built" 500 hp motor?
So how much approx. power is in 1: Akula ? 2: Wazzup ?

Wahoo 214
01-22-2010, 10:19 AM
Akula has a blower Not sure was else.

I also know that Tyler & George's old red boat is coming back with a pretty good big block. If there really is a 500hp limit someone should let Gary Cook know

Bilgerat
01-22-2010, 10:24 AM
I'm still working on putting together parts for an engine, but would like to be able to use what i can, while staying in 6. I used to have a 26' Velocity with the 385 HP mercury EFI in it and it would do 72.

Fast Shafts
01-22-2010, 10:24 AM
The 500 horse limit was discussed and agreed upon last year (by all class 6 teams) during the conference call. This should be discussed again (prior to the OPA party) and placed in black and white in the rulebook. Mark H. outlined all the information that was agreed upon, (for class 5 and 6) maybe he can repost this info. Although the general rules have not changed, parameters were added to ensure better/fair racing.

sbracing
01-22-2010, 10:51 AM
Akula has a blower Not sure was else.

I also know that Tyler & George's old red boat is coming back with a pretty good big block. If there really is a 500hp limit someone should let Gary Cook know

I suggest anyone thinking about building a boat or motor for any class contact Smitty. He is the final word. I wouldn't go by what you read here on the internet.

As far as class 6 goes, we adopted a 500 hp limit to keep cost down in our
class last year. It worked very well to keep the competition close all year.

2TR
01-22-2010, 11:28 AM
The 500 horse limit was discussed and agreed upon last year (by all class 6 teams) during the conference call. This should be discussed again (prior to the OPA party) and placed in black and white in the rulebook. Mark H. outlined all the information that was agreed upon, (for class 5 and 6) maybe he can repost this info. Although the general rules have not changed, parameters were added to ensure better/fair racing.

So the Green bean had a 500hp Motor? I think not...

Wazzup Racing
01-22-2010, 11:57 AM
WE are putting a guide line on the class. 500 hp was discussed. However we need to look at the hulls as well. For instance Cotner Runs really well with 500 hp. A 24 Pantera wont break 60 mph. There is still a big inconsistancy in the boats themselves to regulate them all to the exact same horsepower. This should be discussed to keep parity in the class. It is growing quickly and will only continue if it is fair. As far as a Smitty built motor, I think you know better than that. I am all about fair play. The green machine was built for class 5. For safety reasons we asked and the class agreed to let him into class 6. We chipped that motor back to 5600 where it only made 550 hp. The boat ran dead even with Cotner. This year he's got a new package. We are all ears. Lets work it out now. Smitty

sbracing
01-22-2010, 12:15 PM
WE are putting a guide line on the class. 500 hp was discussed. However we need to look at the hulls as well. For instance Cotner Runs really well with 500 hp. A 24 Pantera wont break 60 mph. There is still a big inconsistancy in the boats themselves to regulate them all to the exact same horsepower. This should be discussed to keep parity in the class. It is growing quickly and will only continue if it is fair. As far as a Smitty built motor, I think you know better than that. I am all about fair play. The green machine was built for class 5. For safety reasons we asked and the class agreed to let him into class 6. We chipped that motor back to 5600 where it only made 550 hp. The boat ran dead even with Cotner. This year he's got a new package. We are all ears. Lets work it out now. Smitty

Smitty beat me to the keyboard. What he said is correct. We as a class
voted to let Boomer compete with the motor that came in the Wazzup 2. They agreed to chip and tune it down to class specs. Anyone who watched us race with Boomer and Anthony know we were deck to deck the entire season. Anyone who thinks something unfair or illegal was going on doesn't know the facts and I suggest those people who obviously are making uninformed judgements keep their opinions to themselves or at the very least ask those of us who are directly involved. I for one do not care for the insinuation that Boomer, Anthony or Smitty were doing anything unfair.

Fast Shafts
01-22-2010, 12:34 PM
Smitty,
I agree with your entire post. A 24 Carrera weighs alot more than my Sunsation, so it is only fair that a heavier boat be allowed more power. The lil Wazzup and Cotner ran side by side all season (I had the best seat to see this-as I was usually right behind them) neither seemed to have an advantage. I know that OPA will do what ever is fair to make boats competative. There has to be "allowances" made with brackett racing to encourage boats to participate! Again, everyone in class 6 approved of Wazzup coming into class 6! No one who races in class 6 has b*itced about this!
The success of class 6 is evident and "We've become victims of our own success".
Well said Rich!!

Bilgerat
01-22-2010, 12:40 PM
We are still gathering pieces but putting together an old Mach1, WIth some deck modifications, Should be cool. When its done. of course, I'm not suggesting an old Mach1 is cool, but it can be. Its a extra boat laying around here, so the price is right. The lack of a 502 block may have us going the route of a stroked 454. Its still coming together so we want to build within the rules. ( still looking for a 502 block to build )

Fast Shafts
01-22-2010, 12:44 PM
Bilge,
Post some pics-good luck with it!

Wazzup Racing
01-22-2010, 01:24 PM
By the way guys I get calls all day long in ref to new boats for class 6. I'll start keeping a list. Gonna be the largest class in OPA. Thanks to Mark Henderson.

Bilgerat
01-22-2010, 01:27 PM
I will post some pictures as we work. Was just talking with my brother, and we are speculating some serious deck surgury, and getting the boat in the shop next week. He is assembling the Drive in spare time. Did i mention i still need a 502 builder?

1waterboy1
01-22-2010, 02:39 PM
By the way guys I get calls all day long in ref to new boats for class 6. I'll start keeping a list. Gonna be the largest class in OPA. Thanks to Mark Henderson.

The real credit for the success of Class 6 goes to the teams and OPA.I remember back in 2006 when this class was intoduced, there were only two boats;Papa Dukes and The Crocket Rocket.But OPA stayed committed to the class, and by the end of the season there were five boats.It looks like there will be ten or more boats in 2010.

The class is competitive and relatively affordable.The thought behind the 26ft length/70mph limit was to provide a place for the smaller,narrower,lower freeboard vee bottoms to race competitively regardless of water conditions.

Looks like Class 5 is going to have to recruit some more race teams...we still want to be the largest class in OPA!

Wahoo 214
01-22-2010, 04:09 PM
I will tell Gary about the 500hp and ask him to call Smitty

Ratickle
01-22-2010, 06:41 PM
Just curious, 500HP at the crank or prop?

Ratickle
01-22-2010, 06:42 PM
We are still gathering pieces but putting together an old Mach1, WIth some deck modifications, Should be cool. When its done. of course, I'm not suggesting an old Mach1 is cool, but it can be. Its a extra boat laying around here, so the price is right. The lack of a 502 block may have us going the route of a stroked 454. Its still coming together so we want to build within the rules. ( still looking for a 502 block to build )

I bought my last one off of Craig's list. New gen 6, $950.

Ratickle
01-22-2010, 06:44 PM
Just search All Craigs Lists and see what's out there.

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/1541050390.html

ricochet myk
01-23-2010, 06:16 PM
Hey guys,
Being this will be my first go with OPA I am not trying to make waves...when I used the term "Smitty Built" it reffered to he originally built it, not that theres any crazy black magic or anything devious about it, it was already in the boat so we left it ! (HP ???) Didnt care till now but will find out and post the dyno sheet. (transparency...learned that from Obama HA HA HA). Didnt mean to stir s*#t !
Our only intention this season is to have an awesome time and race as much as possible, and from what Ive been told OPA is the place to be...Mike
P.S. still not sure if its 5 or 6 yet.

sbracing
01-23-2010, 07:54 PM
I really would like to nail down these horsepower limits also. We're trying to build our engine now but dont want to over due it if its gonna put us in another class or penalize us in anyway. If there are twins in class with 500 efi's just say, can I build a single engine with 750hp to run side by side? Just asking because Im not sure. Not being a smart ass!

Thanks!
John

Class 6 is single engine and currently only class with any HP restriction. I would recommend you contact Smitty to get the lowdown.

SHARKEY-IMAGES
01-23-2010, 10:51 PM
Anyone who watched us race with Boomer and Anthony know we were deck to deck the entire season..

:cheers2:

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p193577952-4.jpg

Fast Shafts
01-23-2010, 11:34 PM
I had a great view of both these boats all season long, unfortunately I was right behind them:banghead:.Can't wait for this year to be running alongside-or ahead of them!:sifone:

Tyler Crockett
01-24-2010, 11:06 AM
Akula has a blower Not sure was else.

I also know that Tyler & George's old red boat is coming back with a pretty good big block. If there really is a 500hp limit someone should let Gary Cook know



Has Ben has a 454 with a worn out blower that does not even produce any boost we built that engine 2001. It should have been rebuilt 3 years ago what's keeping it together it must be his driving and throttling. He said after he wins a few races this year he will give me his prize money to freshen the engine.

SHARKEY-IMAGES
01-24-2010, 11:18 AM
What's up Tyler ? Happy New Year !

Will you be at the OPA AWARDS DINNER FEB 20th ?

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p656430376-3.jpg

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p488413755-3.jpg

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p348721062-3.jpg

Tyler Crockett
01-25-2010, 09:09 AM
What's up Tyler ? Happy New Year !

Will you be at the OPA AWARDS DINNER FEB 20th ?

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p656430376-3.jpg

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p488413755-3.jpg

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p348721062-3.jpg



Hi Sharkey I have been real busy in the shop getting engines done. I won't be going to the awards on the 20th.

2TR
01-25-2010, 05:34 PM
I will tell Gary about the 500hp and ask him to call Smitty

He has two motors built, one made just over 520hp and the other made over 6???? :eek:

Bilgerat
01-25-2010, 05:40 PM
520 Should be fine, what is it?

2TR
01-25-2010, 05:41 PM
520 Should be fine, what is it?

a chevy




























:rofl:

sbracing
01-25-2010, 09:06 PM
CotnerTrailers.com 611 new engine program news:

Prototype engine rolls off production line.

2TR
01-25-2010, 09:50 PM
I think your motors bigger that your boat :eek:

Ratickle
01-25-2010, 09:53 PM
CotnerTrailers.com 611 new engine program news:

Prototype engine rolls off production line.

Yeah, but think how fast it'll be with twins and #6000 drysump drives....

sbracing
01-25-2010, 09:56 PM
I think your motors bigger that your boat :eek:

No, that is a really small truck pulling out of the shed

phragle
01-25-2010, 10:07 PM
you put that in the boat...I got 50 bucks that says it will sink your program....

Wahoo 214
01-26-2010, 10:15 AM
CotnerTrailers.com 611 new engine program news:

Prototype engine rolls off production line.

Did you get that out of Boomer's boat? :kiss:

Fast Shafts
01-26-2010, 10:36 AM
Looks like an inline 6, i thought they were obsolete for racing?

sbracing
01-26-2010, 11:26 AM
14 cylinder inline 2 stroke diesel, 108,920 HP at 120 RPM
Crank alone weighs 300 Tons.

It is a boat motor. (container ship)

Tyler Crockett
01-27-2010, 09:11 AM
:willy_nilly:
He has two motors built, one made just over 520hp and the other made over 6???? :eek:




Did Gary get a Helmet that will fit his head ?????? :willy_nilly:

2TR
01-27-2010, 09:17 AM
:willy_nilly:

Did Gary get a Helmet that will fit his head ?????? :willy_nilly:



Yep

Tyler Crockett
02-02-2010, 09:57 PM
Smitty beat me to the keyboard. What he said is correct. We as a class
voted to let Boomer compete with the motor that came in the Wazzup 2. They agreed to chip and tune it down to class specs. Anyone who watched us race with Boomer and Anthony know we were deck to deck the entire season. Anyone who thinks something unfair or illegal was going on doesn't know the facts and I suggest those people who obviously are making uninformed judgements keep their opinions to themselves or at the very least ask those of us who are directly involved. I for one do not care for the insinuation that Boomer, Anthony or Smitty were doing anything unfair.



Sorry I had this saved and I had to use it.

htrdlncn
03-20-2010, 11:57 AM
Those of you who have or had intrest in running a Carrera Im
trying to get a Carrera forum started on the board.
Even if you dont still have one if you could add your input I would appreciate it!
http://www.seriousoffshore.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15582&highlight=Carrera

Frank@damncarrera.com