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Von Bongo
11-16-2008, 11:23 PM
Since most of our boats are based on GM power what happens if GM fails by the end of the year?

Chris
11-16-2008, 11:24 PM
Nothing.

phragle
11-16-2008, 11:33 PM
GM will be Obamanized. every single american will own part of GM, bought and paid for by those of use who actually pay taxes.

Trim'd Up
11-17-2008, 08:58 AM
Even if GM fails, I really don't believe they will go out of business. Just a restructuring.

Airpacker
11-17-2008, 09:26 AM
Restructuring is what GM NEEDS TO DO in order to survive. The Chinese cars arrive for the 2010 model year. No one will want a ( base)cheap GM, Ford or Mopar car for 12 grand when they can buy a Chery or Geely for 8 grand brand new with warranty. Only way to save, not put off certain death but actually save the big three will be file, fire, restructure and come back WAY leaner on the cost of production side to compete. As for GM engines, wj\ho really cares. World and Dart make blocks, heads, lots of crank and cam manufacturers etc. No foreseeable supply problems there.

FCMarine
11-17-2008, 06:35 PM
True just like airpacker said they already have reproduction engine manufactures out there now so there will be no shortage of motors or anything like that.

f311fr1
11-17-2008, 08:31 PM
I have built and had engines built by others where the only GM part was the timing chin cover sheet metal.

RumRunner
11-18-2008, 12:54 PM
I don't see GM Failing having any real affect on the Marine market place. First off GM will just restructure, so they're not going anywhere. Second, if the economy doesn't get any better it really won't matter because most of the boat builders WILL go out of business. Big picture the only thing I see that really could happen would be a bigger jump in engine quality. You'll see some more cheap offshore engine parts that will break down even quicker, and then you'll see guys with better quality stuff as well. This means engines will be cheaper than black Merc stuff (and break even sooner) or they'll be much better through the after market guys like Dean...

Chris
11-18-2008, 01:05 PM
In the end, if GM falls from the face of the Earth, we'll all have much bigger problems than where to get motors and parts.

fund razor
11-18-2008, 01:14 PM
In the end, if GM falls from the face of the Earth, we'll all have much bigger problems than where to get motors and parts.

No doubt.

smittyseng
11-21-2008, 02:43 AM
Delphi "failed" 3 years ago and it has made very little difference on their product availability,GM will be no different,Smitty

stecz20
11-21-2008, 02:50 AM
does any of this mean we have to be nice to gellner????

Mrhorsepower1
11-21-2008, 11:25 AM
does any of this mean we have to be nice to gellner????

GM fails........yes you come to GE!! You better be nice to me! I will hook you up Stecz brother! :biggrinjester:

RumRunner
11-21-2008, 11:27 AM
does any of this mean we have to be nice to gellner????

NO... :sifone:








Kidding Deano

Mrhorsepower1
11-23-2008, 01:53 PM
funny Dougie.:biggrinjester:

RumRunner
11-23-2008, 03:57 PM
You coming down to PRI?

Raylar
11-25-2008, 09:41 PM
Even if GM restructures which it looks like its going to have to do eventually, all the current performance and marine engine programs could be in a real high risk elimination area which would be devastating to the marine and aftermarket engine businesses. Lets hope its a lot more painless than that and product pricing and availability does not get fractured badly!:ack2:

Regards,
Ray @ Raylar